Re: Clockwork Orange (was Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick)

1999-03-11 Thread Iain Noble
Tom Mohr wrote: Regarding "A Clockwork Orange", Iain Noble wrote: If I'm baffled by anything it's Tom's description of the film as 'decadent' and 'appalling'. I think he's confusing depiction with approval. and You might disapprove of what something shows or says but that doesn't

Re: Clockwork Orange (was Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick)

1999-03-11 Thread Stevie Simkin
Iain Noble wrote lotsa sensible stuff and: perhaps you ought to see 'Red Dragon' an earlier film about the first Hannibal Lecter novel with Brian Cox as the good doctor which is rather better. sorry, being nitpicky, but that movie was called "Manhunter", tho I believe it was based on the

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-10 Thread Danlee2
Stevie explained; And it remains unavailable legitmately. And yes, Dan, our venerable British Board of Film Classification has a pretty tight grip on video over here. I' m expecting things to loosen up a little now that James Ferman (an expat Yank!) has gone. I hear that The Exorcist

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-10 Thread Stevie Simkin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, things aren't all that much better over here with all the closings of independent video outlets and the effective banning of "Lolita" and "Last Temptation of Christ" through sudden mysterious fire code-violations and "Hollywood distribution fears",

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-10 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring
: 10-Mar-99 Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick by Stevie Simkin@interalpha Am I right in thinking that blockbuster have the monopoly over there, and that they release their own edited versions of controversial videos? Is there a Christian as chairman of the board? Or is all this vicious rumour? Just

Clockwork Orange (was Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick)

1999-03-10 Thread TW Mohr
Regarding "A Clockwork Orange", Iain Noble wrote: If I'm baffled by anything it's Tom's description of the film as 'decadent' and 'appalling'. I think he's confusing depiction with approval. and You might disapprove of what something shows or says but that doesn't mean it's bad

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-10 Thread William F. Silvers
lance davis wrote: Clockwork as appalling? Um, I think that was the point. (I also think it is cunningly funny, and generally not recognized as such, but that's a longer story). One of Kubrick's consistent themes was the pretensions, hypocrisies, and fragilities of those in power, and how

Re: Clockwork Orange (was Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick)

1999-03-10 Thread JKellySC1
In a message dated 3/10/99 11:02:32 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At best, Stanley Kubrick's 1971 film suggests an Animal House with bogus intellectual trappings. But the trappings--the rationalizations and spurious arguments--are what make it genuinely irresponsible,

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-09 Thread stuart
Ian Durkacz wrote: ."Paths Of Glory" "was banned in France until relatively recently because of its unflattering depiction of the French army". Amazing. As if! French thread anyone? Sorry, but theyre talking basketball on Twangfest. Which reminds me. Someone mentioned the Damnations

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-09 Thread Danlee2
My brother - who's a year younger than me - was horrified by the movie. "Quit laughing, Jon! This isn't funny! Nuclear war isn't funny!" You gotta admit tho, Jon, *that* is brilliant. bio-chemical war ain't funny either, dan n.p. uhh..."Masters Of War", or something like that.

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-09 Thread William F. Silvers
Ian Durkacz wrote: I'm thinking of "Paths Of Glory" with Kirk Douglas, Ralph Meeker and the wonderful Adolphe Menjou. That is a fabulous and powerful film. As a related note, the obituary for Kubrick published here in yesterday's 'Guardian' newspaper here (see

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-09 Thread William F. Silvers
Ian Durkacz wrote: I'm thinking of "Paths Of Glory" with Kirk Douglas, Ralph Meeker and the wonderful Adolphe Menjou. That is a fabulous and powerful film. As a related note, the obituary for Kubrick published here in yesterday's 'Guardian' newspaper here (see

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-09 Thread jon_erik
William F. Silvers writes: Do you know if was Kubrick's own doing? Interesting? My understanding is that the film inspired some rapes and other crimes in Great Britain that seem to have unnerved Kubrick. The film had been on the British market for about a year when it was removed from

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-09 Thread cwilson
Stevie wrote: If you're wondering why all this is, it's worth bearing in mind that we had 19 years of an unbelievably repressive Tory government that even managed to outlaw the "promotion" of homosexuality as a legitimate lifestyle in education and cultural contexts. "This song

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-09 Thread Iain Noble
Roger Ebert on "Clockwork Orange": Kubrick's ``A Clockwork Orange'' (1971) starred Malcolm McDowell as a violent lout in a fearsome world of the near future; its prophetic vision was so disturbing that the movie is banned in Britain to this day. (

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-08 Thread Lee Saloutos
. Three P2ers, three classic films, three memorials. Who'll go for four? b.s. I'm Spartacus!... Honey, I'm home! .. h; that smarts!... Now close the pod bay doors, Hal. But you can't quote the lighting in Barry Lyndon. You can't quote the lighting in "Full Metal Jacket" (esp

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-08 Thread lance davis
My favorite Kubrick movie is "The Killing," a film noir from the late 50s, I think (pre-Lolita anyhow). The dialogue was written by Jim Thompson. It's hilarious. The heaviness of the later films would let you forget that Kubrick had a hell of a sense of humor once. Will Miner Denver, CO

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-08 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 8-Mar-99 Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick by "lance davis"@simplecom. H . . . I wonder if Tarantino ever watched this one while trying to get ideas for Reservoir Dogs Yes. Tarantino said as much when he was promoting Pulp Fiction. Carl Z.

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-08 Thread Masonsod
In a message dated 3/8/99 3:37:45 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes. Tarantino said as much when he was promoting Pulp Fiction. Carl Z. Pulp Fiction, now THAT'S the one with Slim Whitman, right? Mitch Matthews Gravel Train/Sunken Road

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-08 Thread Thomas W. Mohr
Roger Ebert on "Clockwork Orange": Kubrick's ``A Clockwork Orange'' (1971) starred Malcolm McDowell as a violent lout in a fearsome world of the near future; its prophetic vision was so disturbing that the movie is banned in Britain to this day. (

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-08 Thread Bob Soron
At 10:07 PM -0500 on 3/7/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH, I've seen 2001 countless times, far more than 100 certainly, last a restored widescreen print on the largest movie screen in Boston on my birthday. That film still never ceases to amaze me, and I still find stuff I've never seen

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-08 Thread Rob Russell
My favorite Kubrick movie is "The Killing," a film noir from the late 50s, I think (pre-Lolita anyhow). The dialogue was written by Jim Thompson. It's hilarious. The heaviness of the later films would let you forget that Kubrick had a hell of a sense of humor once. H . . . I wonder

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick (zero twang)

1999-03-08 Thread Stevie Simkin
I teach a module that looks at early modern revenge tragedy in relation to violent cinema of the past 20-30 years. Clockwork Orange constantly comes up in debates. A mate of mine finally got me a (French sub-titled) version in Switzerland so that I can show some clips to my students. Natural

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-07 Thread Masonsod
In his honor, tonite I will have a toast and recite as many lines as I can remember from "Dr. Strangelove," especially Slim Pickens famous patriotic speech to his men. Mitch Matthews Gravel Train/Sunken Road (Ice cream, Mandrake? Children's ice cream?)

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-07 Thread JKellySC1
In a message dated 3/7/99 7:15:50 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In his honor, tonite I will have a toast and recite as many lines as I can remember from "Dr. Strangelove," especially Slim Pickens famous patriotic speech to his men. And I will listen to Beethoven's 9th

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-07 Thread Bill Silvers
At 09:17 PM 3/7/1999 EST, Slim followed Mitch with: In a message dated 3/7/99 7:15:50 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In his honor, tonite I will have a toast and recite as many lines as I can remember from "Dr. Strangelove," especially Slim Pickens famous patriotic speech

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-07 Thread lance davis
"Wendy, gimme the bat. Wendy! I'm not gonna hurt ya . . . I'm just gonna bash your fuckin' brains in!" "Gentlemen, please! No fighting in the War Room." Lance . . . np--Singin' in the Rain

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-07 Thread Barry Mazor
. Three P2ers, three classic films, three memorials. Who'll go for four? b.s. I'm Spartacus!... Honey, I'm home! .. h; that smarts!... Now close the pod bay doors, Hal. But you can't quote the lighting in Barry Lyndon. Barry not Lyndon. We'll meet again. Don't know where; don't know

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-07 Thread Will Miner
My favorite Kubrick movie is "The Killing," a film noir from the late 50s, I think (pre-Lolita anyhow). The dialogue was written by Jim Thompson. It's hilarious. The heaviness of the later films would let you forget that Kubrick had a hell of a sense of humor once. Will Miner Denver, CO

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-07 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 7-Mar-99 Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick by Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] My favorite Kubrick movie is "The Killing," a film noir from the late 50s, I think (pre-Lolita anyhow). 1956. It's Kubrick's best American film, taking place almost entirely at a

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-07 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring
My mailer is doing strange things Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 7-Mar-99 Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick by Carl Abraham Zimring@and I'll take Dr. Strangelove for Peter Sellers's ADD: three great performances, and George C. Scott, and Slim Whitman. Carl checking for flouride

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-07 Thread Masonsod
In a message dated 3/8/99 3:41:46 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ADD: three great performances, and George C. Scott, and Slim Whitman. Carl Uh, Carl, that's Slim Pickens. Mitch Matthews Gravel Train/Sunken Road (as for Laurence Olivier in "Sparticus;" Come, wash my

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-07 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 7-Mar-99 Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Uh, Carl, that's Slim Pickens. Damned flouride. Carl Z.

Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick

1999-03-07 Thread Jamie Swedberg
Uh, Carl, that's Slim Pickens. Damned flouride. Uh, Carl, that's "fluoride." See what it's done to you? ggg --Jamie S., who just noticed that the "more rockabilly than thou" Kim Lenz will be playing during SxSW. What with missing both her and Neko Case, my husband is beginning to *seriously*