Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On Feb 29, 2016, at 11:15 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > * @lbutlr : >> On Sun Feb 28 2016 19:56:48 Ruben Safir said: >>> >>> Maybe I'm just in a bad mood, but my view of mailmans software >>> archetecture, at this point, is very low.

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On 3/2/2016 1:30 AM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 07:32:02PM -0500, Ron Guerin wrote: > >> On 2/29/2016 12:19 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: >>> For submission of list messages to a large number of recipients, >>> I would generally use sendmail(1) rather than SMTP. Don't know >>>

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 07:32:02PM -0500, Ron Guerin wrote: > On 2/29/2016 12:19 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > For submission of list messages to a large number of recipients, I > > would generally use sendmail(1) rather than SMTP. Don't know whether > > mailman supports that. > > > > It

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On 2/29/2016 12:19 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > For submission of list messages to a large number of recipients, I > would generally use sendmail(1) rather than SMTP. Don't know whether > mailman supports that. > It does, but its use is "highly discouraged". - Ron

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

* @lbutlr : > On Sun Feb 28 2016 19:56:48 Ruben Safir said: > > > > Maybe I'm just in a bad mood, but my view of mailmans software > > archetecture, at this point, is very low. He tries very hard to help > > people and to work on it, but I think it

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 05:19:35PM +, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > > To have mailman reinject on an extra port on localhost is > > > how it should be done. Mine uses the same submission smtpd as do regular human users. It is not impacted by any spam control restrictions. > For submission of

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On 29 Feb 2016, at 2:43, Ruben Safir wrote: Can I have input about this recommendation? Is there unreasonable security risk? I think not, but I want to double check It's fine, assuming that you can trust everything else running on the host that you're running Mailman and Postfix on not

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On Sun Feb 28 2016 19:56:48 Ruben Safir said: > > Maybe I'm just in a bad mood, but my view of mailmans software archetecture, > at this point, is very low. He tries very hard to help people and to work on > it, but I think it is broken at the core. I am not currently

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 02:23:53PM -0500, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > I can't tell from headers whether they use sendmail.org sendmail > or postfix or something else, but amavisd-new is mentioned in the > headers. amsl.com runs most of the mailing lists. The ietf.org MTAs operated by AMSL run

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

In message <20160229171935.gh12...@mournblade.imrryr.org> Viktor Dukhovni writes: > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 11:38:26AM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > > To have mailman reinject on an extra port on localhost is how it > > > should be done. > > > > Thanks! > > Note that much of the delay was

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 11:38:26AM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote: > > To have mailman reinject on an extra port on localhost is how it > > should be done. > > Thanks! Note that much of the delay was likely due to mailman hitting tarpit controls after 10 invalid recipients in a single submission.

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 09:41:39AM +0100, Christian Kivalo wrote: > On 2016-02-29 08:43, Ruben Safir wrote: > >Can I have input about this recommendation? Is there unreasonable > >security > >risk? I think not, but I want to double check > > That looks sensible. That comes near to the

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On 2016-02-29 08:43, Ruben Safir wrote: Can I have input about this recommendation? Is there unreasonable security risk? I think not, but I want to double check That looks sensible. That comes near to the configuration i use for my mailman installation. You should not do rbl checks on

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

Can I have input about this recommendation? Is there unreasonable security risk? I think not, but I want to double check On 02/28/2016 10:51 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > On 02/29/2016 01:34 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> I think we can fix your issue fairly simply. >> >> Please, as I asked in my reply

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

> Date: Sunday, February 28, 2016 21:56:48 -0500 > From: Ruben Safir > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 02:46:40AM +, Richard wrote: >> >> > Date: Sunday, February 28, 2016 21:07:19 -0500 >> > From: Ruben Safir >> > >> > Ah - ok I'm learning something at

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 02:46:40AM +, Richard wrote: > > > > Date: Sunday, February 28, 2016 21:07:19 -0500 > > From: Ruben Safir > > > > Ah - ok I'm learning something at least.. > > > > Mostly some address bounces, cruft from the list 4 list sends > > sandwiched in

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

> Date: Sunday, February 28, 2016 21:07:19 -0500 > From: Ruben Safir > > Ah - ok I'm learning something at least.. > > Mostly some address bounces, cruft from the list 4 list sends > sandwiched in betweem at 17:17:14 and change. > > Two things about this bother me.

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 07:37:34PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > Ruben Safir: > > Feb 28 17:17:18 2016 (29233) > > smtp > > to hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.241 seconds > > What is the Postfix logging that starts

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

Ruben Safir: > Feb 28 17:17:18 2016 (29233) > smtp to > hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.241 seconds What is the Postfix logging that starts around 17:16:09 and that ends around 17:17:18, for a session that receives mail

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 06:41:56PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > Ruben Safir: > > Seems that mailman is unable to send messages to postfix fast enough > > When Mailman is falling behind, what is the number of SMTP deliveries > per second from Mailman to Postfix? > > Wietse > >

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

Ruben Safir: > Seems that mailman is unable to send messages to postfix fast enough When Mailman is falling behind, what is the number of SMTP deliveries per second from Mailman to Postfix? Wietse

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:54:12AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > Ruben Safir: > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 01:29:21PM +, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 09:13:44AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > > > > > > > What can cause the list mail to hang for 3 hour or more? > > > >

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

Ruben Safir: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 01:29:21PM +, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 09:13:44AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > > > > > What can cause the list mail to hang for 3 hour or more? > > > > > > > > Both mailman and Postfix log activies and errors. I recommend

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

HI Ruben, Am 25.10.2015 um 11:09 schrieb Ruben Safir: > What can cause the list mail to hang for 3 hour or more? Have you tried to look into /var/log/mailman/error and /var/log/mailman/smtp-failure ? ttyl Django -- "Bonnie & Clyde der Postmaster-Szene!" approved by Postfix-God

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 09:13:44AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > What can cause the list mail to hang for 3 hour or more? > > > > Both mailman and Postfix log activies and errors. I recommend that > > you start looking for warning/error/fatal/panic messages. > > > > Wietse > > yeah -it

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 09:43:36AM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: > Ruben Safir: > > Hi > > > > I have been running majordomo for a decade+ with postfix with no > > trouble but I resently turned over to mailman and it is taking 3 > > hours to turn over messages. And I don't have this problem with >

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 06:09:36 -0400, Ruben Safir stated: > I have been running majordomo for a decade+ with postfix with no > trouble but I resently turned over to mailman and it is taking > 3 hours to turn over messages. And I don't have this problem > with normal email, just when I use mailman.

Postfix Mailman integration

Hi I have been running majordomo for a decade+ with postfix with no trouble but I resently turned over to mailman and it is taking 3 hours to turn over messages. And I don't have this problem with normal email, just when I use mailman. DNS is running on the same machine. What can cause the

Re: Postfix Mailman integration

Ruben Safir: > Hi > > I have been running majordomo for a decade+ with postfix with no > trouble but I resently turned over to mailman and it is taking 3 > hours to turn over messages. And I don't have this problem with > normal email, just when I use mailman. DNS is running on the same >