Re: Housekeeping Hint: Was OT: OS 9.x on G4 (was Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c)

2002-11-21 Thread George Mogiljansky
Thank you, Karl. Excellent advice. Also there are those who keep a System file from a previous system and add extensions/CPs from a higher system. It's another way of reducing Ram required, and also getting faster performance. Cheers George --- Karl Gerlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Thou

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-20 Thread Fabian Fang
On Tuesday, Nov 19, 2002, at 09:21PM, martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that with OS 9.2.2, I now have a large amount of library extensions with names like kpagrdr.shlb , which makes me feel like a hapless Windows user, never knowing whether an extension is part of some

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-20 Thread martin
Extension Overload is an extensions, control panels, control strip modules and contextual menus management application. It offers detail information of 5934 extensions and control panels, control strip modules and contextual menu items in your system. It also lets you activate and deactivate

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-20 Thread George Mogiljansky
I fear not, since 9 was designed (?) primarily to provide a transition to OSX snd/or to work in emulation. I bet that's what those 'invisible' files are doing. Cheers George --- martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Fabian, Extension Overload was the sort of utility I referred to in my

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-20 Thread martin
I fear not, since 9 was designed (?) primarily to provide a transition to OSX snd/or to work in emulation. I bet that's what those 'invisible' files are doing. Cheers George hmmm, that kinda makes sense... There's probably a sweet System for a G3/G4, which does MOST of what most users need, is

OT: OS 9.x on G4 (was Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c)

2002-11-20 Thread Andrew Kershaw
(You should start a new thread for this topic and move it to G-Books.) Well, I'm running 9.2.2 on my Wallstreet. My system folder is about 300MB with just about every option installed. I have a total of 170 items in my Extensions folder... 626MB seems a bit extreme to me. You must have

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-20 Thread George Mogiljansky
Yes, but it all boils down to what you do with your 'puter, how often you do it, etc. I have a collection of HDDs with various OSs and bookmark files - sort of an archive of days past. Cheers George --- martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I fear not, since 9 was designed (?) primarily to provide a

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-20 Thread Karl Gerlach
Does this mean that OS9 on my 3400 would give me more RAM in my finder than in OS8.6. I keep getting freezes after using my computer for several minutes and switching applications frequently. I keep checking my About this Computer to see how much RAM is used and I never come close to

Housekeeping Hint: Was OT: OS 9.x on G4 (was Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c)

2002-11-20 Thread Karl Gerlach
The sys extensions in 9.x are rather daunting. The worst, though, was moving from 8.1 to 8.5, since there was a lot of junk left in the extensions folder that was no longer used. There are a few websites that give more info. about extensions if you are unsure about what they do. (Note: if you

Re: Housekeeping Hint: Was OT: OS 9.x on G4 (was Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c)

2002-11-20 Thread Namdeerf2
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Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-19 Thread Karl Gerlach
I run OS 9.1 on a 3400/240 with 144MB RAM. It's not noticably slower than OS 8.6 if at all but definitely takes a wad more RAM. A little care with what control panels and extensions you load will pay off if you need to be spare with RAM, otherwise, by all means migrate to OS 9.1. OS 9 uses

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-19 Thread sirksd
OS 9 uses RAM differently than 8: it takes a certain percentage of available resident RAM regardless of how much you have. Does this mean that OS9 on my 3400 would give me more RAM in my finder than in OS8.6. I keep getting freezes after using my computer for several minutes and switching

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-19 Thread martin
OS 9 uses RAM differently than 8: it takes a certain percentage of available resident RAM regardless of how much you have. This means that unlike 8, it is impossible to strip it down very much to save RAM for apps. The one exception I have found was the faxware extensions, which are loaded by

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-18 Thread Adam
Thanks everyone for the advice, I think I'll stick to 8.6, I don't think I could cope with 9.1 if it's going to be slower. Adam. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-18 Thread Gary D. Adams
I don't think it's slower. I've got it on my 3400/200 with 144mb RAM. It takes more RAM, if I recall, but it runs fine. Gary Adam wrote: Thanks everyone for the advice, I think I'll stick to 8.6, I don't think I could cope with 9.1 if it's going to be slower. Adam. -- PowerBooks is

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-18 Thread Jae Redfern
I'll second that. I run OS 9.1 on a 3400/240 with 144MB RAM. It's not noticably slower than OS 8.6 if at all but definitely takes a wad more RAM. A little care with what control panels and extensions you load will pay off if you need to be spare with RAM, otherwise, by all means migrate to OS

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-18 Thread George Mogiljansky
With a 3400c and 80 MB Ram, I had to switch from 8.1 and Nav. 4.6 to 8.6 and Mozilla (stable version) to take advantage of a high-speed connection. This stable version of Mozilla is anything but - any ideas? It crashes 4 or 5 times a week. 8.1 was stable as a rock but slow, so HW is not an issue.

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-16 Thread Jim Williams
I run 9.1 on my 3400 mainly due to the fact that I don't have a full install of 8.5 or 8.6 available. 9.1 takes a while to boot, but seems ok once it comes up. I run 8.6 on a 5300 CS with excellent results. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronics

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-16 Thread Charlie Reyes
Hi Charlie, Unless you'll be using all of 9.1's USB, FireWire, and video enhancing features what do you mean by video enhancing features ? Does it makes a 3400 running faster ? I do video capture on another Mac and found that 9.1 allows whatever remaining free space there is on the drive to be

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-15 Thread Andrew Kershaw
Adam, I own a 5300 and a Wallstreet, so I'm 2 systems removed from you in either direction... But if I had to choose, I'd go for 8.6. 8.6 actually runs decently on my 5300cs, which is saying a lot for that system. On the 3400 (what speed, how much RAM?), 8.6 will probably run like a

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-15 Thread Adam
I own a 5300 and a Wallstreet, so I'm 2 systems removed from you in either direction... But if I had to choose, I'd go for 8.6. 8.6 actually runs decently on my 5300cs, which is saying a lot for that system. On the 3400 (what speed, how much RAM?), 8.6 will Thanks for the advice!

Re: OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-15 Thread Charlie Reyes
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 19:24:33 +1100 Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking to update the OS on my PowerBook 3400c, and was hoping for some advice. I remember reading in this list that the best OS for such a machine was a choice between OS 8.6 and 9.1 (I think it was those two, I lost all my

OS 8 vs. 9 for 3400c

2002-11-14 Thread Adam
Hi all, I'm looking to update the OS on my PowerBook 3400c, and was hoping for some advice. I remember reading in this list that the best OS for such a machine was a choice between OS 8.6 and 9.1 (I think it was those two, I lost all my email a few days ago so I can't go back and check.) I