Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-13 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Hey Ted, Thanks for your feedback. And, considering the LAST comment you made below - I figured I might as well send this response back to the ProFox list... On 11/12/2012 11:56 AM, Ted Roche wrote: One of the best programmers I ever worked with was one of the world's leading authorities on

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-12 Thread Alan Bourke
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012, at 07:02 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: However, is there any other Ammo that I can use in my arguments to convince the guy that its STILL a Viable Tech??? COBOL has been around since, what, 1960-something, and In 1997, the Gartner Group reported that 80% of the world's

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-12 Thread Ted Roche
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hey Mike, Thanks for the input. I shall try and consider SQL as a backend for the system. Especially since I know so many people here on this mailing list has done Exactly that - using SQL. However, to be truthful - I

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-12 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 12, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm wrote: COBOL has been around since, what, 1960-something, and In 1997, the Gartner Group reported that 80% of the world's business ran on COBOL with over 200 billion lines of code in existence and with an estimated 5 billion

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-12 Thread M Jarvis
I'd say MySQL or PostgreSQL would sell better than Access as both of those are certainly not going away any time soon...better bet with those over Access for a multitude of reasons! I said Access for the front end, not the DB backend I don't like it because I'm used to and spoiled by VFP

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-12 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 11/12/2012 11:56 AM, M Jarvis wrote: I'd say MySQL or PostgreSQL would sell better than Access as both of those are certainly not going away any time soon...better bet with those over Access for a multitude of reasons! I said Access for the front end, not the DB backend I don't like

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-12 Thread Rafael Copquin
Hi Kurt Also, I've done the Visual type screen design - where I drop one or more DBF's into the Env. on a Form - which allows me to easily do DragDrop to layout the screen design. I suspect that with an SQL backend - you can't do that at all... I developed two forms: one that converts my

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-11 Thread Ted Roche
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Paul Hill paulroberth...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 November 2012 20:13, Ted Roche tedro...@gmail.com wrote: It's STABLE! - unlike DotNet that is constantly churning the right way to do things VFP has established Best Practices. Your investment isn't going

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-11 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 11/10/2012 4:13 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Hey Mike, Thanks for the input. I shall try and consider SQL as a backend for the system. Especially since I know so many people here on this mailing list has done Exactly that - using SQL. However, to be truthful - I have very little experience with

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-11 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 11/10/2012 4:33 PM, M Jarvis wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC Good reasons, but I'd suggest you use a different backend, like MySQL instead of native DBFs. That'll suit you better in the longer run, imo, especially if they live on the web. Well... if

The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-10 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Well - that argument has Once Again Reared its UGLY head today for me. Here I was, talking to a buddy of mine - and he knows these people that needed a database system built for some kind of shipping container tracking. My buddy had asked me a number of times over the past 6 months about

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-10 Thread Thierry Nivelet
1/ PC/desktop itself is old tech, better pick a simple and cheap one rather than an expensive one 2/ M$ is an ailing giant 3/ no other desktop tech around - all web 4/ when it comes to web, GUI only matters; as HTML/CSS/JS are standard, all techs are alike 5/ VFP license + dev time is cheaper

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-10 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 11/10/2012 2:13 PM, Thierry Nivelet wrote: 1/ PC/desktop itself is old tech, better pick a simple and cheap one rather than an expensive one 2/ M$ is an ailing giant 3/ no other desktop tech around - all web 4/ when it comes to web, GUI only matters; as HTML/CSS/JS are standard, all techs

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-10 Thread Ted Roche
VFP is old tech -- it's true! It's MATURE! - there's not a lot of stuff you need that's not already in there. It's STABLE! - unlike DotNet that is constantly churning the right way to do things VFP has established Best Practices. Your investment isn't going to get broken by a patch or a new

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-10 Thread Paul Hill
On 10 November 2012 20:13, Ted Roche tedro...@gmail.com wrote: VFP is old tech -- it's true! It's MATURE! - there's not a lot of stuff you need that's not already in there. It's STABLE! - unlike DotNet that is constantly churning the right way to do things VFP has established Best

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-10 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Hey Thierry, Thank you very much for your input. I shall definitely consider some of what you wrote as some of my arguments for doing the project in VFP! -K- On 11/10/2012 2:13 PM, Thierry Nivelet wrote: 1/ PC/desktop itself is old tech, better pick a simple and cheap one rather than an

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-10 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Hey Mike, Thanks for the input. I shall try and consider SQL as a backend for the system. Especially since I know so many people here on this mailing list has done Exactly that - using SQL. However, to be truthful - I have very little experience with doing something like that. Also, I've done

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-10 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Hey Ted - thanks SO Much for all that info - and I will definitely read that link you gave at the bottom of your posting. Its also making me think that I may try and have my buddy put me in touch with his associates by E-mail, and then I can outline the arguments to this guy that way - as it

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-10 Thread Thierry Nivelet
Frankly, Mike, DBFs living n a web server are as reliable as any other DB tech Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 10 nov. 2012 à 20:59, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com a écrit : On 11/10/2012 2:13 PM,