Jon
You are probably correct about SELECT ALL WIRES not working Try select all
nets.This is was a carry over from using SPECTRA. Sorry about my memory
lapse
Mike Reagan
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Jon
Forgot to addI am not on a PC that allows me to test what I wrote.
Mike Reagan
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Subject: Re: [PEDA] Electra router
Mike Reagan wrote:
Dennis wrote
. This
is where it should be done anyways.
I need to read what I wrote about the MAX vias.. I will respond later this
morning to that question
Mike Reagan
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Thanks you Duane for the inputs.
How did it work for you?
Mike Reagan
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From: Duane Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 12:27 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Electra router
Dennis wrote:
here is the link to the article by Mike re Electra tip
http://www.connecteda.com/doc/Autorouting%20Techniques.pdf
it is pretty interesting, exp the strategy re via to via spacing
rule
Dennis,
On High Density designs its all about the VIAS.
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Send me a copy of your 48 page do file
Thanks
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--- Tom Hausherr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe,
Ralph
Go to http://www.connecteda.com/ and read the article Autorouting
Techniques/ Using ELECTRA with Protel.
Mike Reagan
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From: Ralph Effinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 9:10 AM
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Subject: [PEDA] first BGA layout
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Mike Reagan wrote:
Ralph
Go to http://www.connecteda.com/ and read the article Autorouting
Techniques/ Using ELECTRA with Protel.
Mike Reagan
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From
Bob
So far this answer worked for me when 2004 started to act funneee.
Delete the folder C:\Documents and Settings\yourname\Application
Data\Altium. Then start 2004 again. Colby at Tech support at Altium
steered me this way. Colby is a great asset to Altium
Mike Reagan
at your rules and make sure they make sense. ie can a 10 mil
line fit inside a 8 mil gap Let me know how I can help. And thanks
for reading it.
Mike Reagan
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thanks for your help see below for pointed response
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compete with OEM software from Xylinx, Altera, etc. Without direct input
and licensing the software will always be behind in development and probably
more error prone.
Just my observation, since I am not an FPGA designer
Mike Reagan
Tom
While it may seem inappropriate to post information about your company's
capabilities on this forum, I wish to thank you for posting this
information. This type of information helps keep us all abreast on what is
happening in the industry. Thank you for the enlightment.
Mike Reagan
That is pretty interesting data gathered here. The interesting part is that
Cadence has been successful in trashing OrCAD from number 1 to a has been.
I doubt if PADs schematic has overtaken OrCad.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
Frederick MD
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Well.actually OrCad and Protel are quite similar in the windows apps. I
dont know how OrCad sales have been since they sent their support to Asia.
Mike Reagan
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Or you can modify the template.ddb in the Client99 folder modify the
pcblayer.bas file. I have alot of custom layer setups.
Mike Reagan
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Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 3:38 PM
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Subject: [PEDA
.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
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Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 7:06 AM
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Subject: [PEDA] Does Microvia on Pad cause SMT problem?
Dear Members,
We have serveral very high density PCB with microvias on pads
I remember years ago an engineer getting mad at me because I wire-wrapped
his circuit trying to make it look nice and neat with all the wires bundled
together in streets avenues. He said it was a big cross talk problem. He
wanted point-to-point with just a little slack in the wire length.
Mira
I feel for you if you choose to basket weave instead of design. I do not
believe your friend is knowledgeable enough to use spectra. 4 BGAs should
route in about 20 minutes if the placement is correct and the rules are set
correctly.
Mike Reagan
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From: Mira
.
Tony
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Subject: Re: [PEDA] Router comparison
I remember years ago an engineer getting mad at me because I wire-wrapped
his circuit trying to make it look nice
Hi Bill,
I too have had problems, conflicts with Adobe 6.0 Offhand I can not
remember specifically what they were. My solution was to revert to version
5. Sorry about the delayed response
Mike Reagan
EDSI
Frederick MD
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772
the chance. These are very qualified people in my
opinion..even if I don't agree with Ian (please take no offense)
Several runner ups have used PCAD which is just awe full software, (now a
cousin to DXP) What do you have to say to PCAD users? Same response?
Mike Reagan
EDSI
with Mentor users.
You havent seen a PADs user compete or win in the past few years.why
because PADS went belly up.
Mike Reagan
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matures.
In the mean time, it gets my work done and for that, I cannot complain.
All the best,
Bill Brooks
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
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found a way to create virtual components which are used as component
keep outs to fool 99SE into thinking it was 3D. It works both online batch
in 99SE.
Mike Reagan
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the same board on 99SE. 99SE response is instantaneous
on the same design. There used to be a songI Cant Drive 55. I am
using DXP04 as a translator
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Mike,
I'd be really interested in more information on this if you're willing to
share it.
Darcy Davis
Design Engineer,
Dynastream Innovations, Inc.
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in 99SE.
[Snip]
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on my pc then I have
re-sort the files into a neat folder which is what I have to do to send them
out. Who thought of this stuff? Didnt they have any design experience at
all?
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for the past few years and it aint workin' guys.At least OrCAd has
allowed me to purchase the schematic capture without spending 10 grand on
the rest of their layout and simulation.
Mike Reagan
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Ray
Now I understand a little better. You could this. I use this trick to
keep traces out of certain areas. Place a matrix of 1 mil lines on the
bottom and make them KEEP OUT lines. Make the squares in the matrix
large enough so the router can pop vias in. The matrix will prevent
Bill
I use matrix and fills all of the time for controlling vias and
traces.but not on any Protel router of course. Did I say PROTEL
router.. there is no such thing. Im sorry for the wrong use of words.
Mike
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again. Same board works fine. That's what I did
yesterday what did you do?
Mike Reagan
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. He wrote to me you cant argue when the math . He is
always right. I have always fallen back on specs and requirements and as
annl as that sounds, I win every time.
Mike Reagan
Has any else noticed the in DXP2 SP2 PCB , as you move the cursor with the
arrow keys, the co-ordinate information does not update? The only way it
updates if the mouse is used. Maybe I need to be retrained to use the
mouse
Mike Reagan
, 2004 2:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP Cursor doesnt work
It works in 2004. Have you tried SP3??
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was 100 percent correct when he
outlined the view class method two days ago. You are partially correct when
you said there was nothing that takes more step in DXP. I did not agree with
you solution.
Keep in touch.
Mike Reagan
Ray,
If the problem is not in your netlist meaning nets A5 are not showing up
twice:
you must do this to avoid double nets in PCB
1. Clear all nets,
2 Load the netlist
3 Connect copper to pads
4. Run DRCs
I am saddened to report this problem still exist in 2004
Mike Reagan
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is also as good as ever.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
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unopened DXP and I am trying to convince management to get their engineering
department to use 2004.What can we expect to learn from the training?
Mike Reagan
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router.
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wrapped software. I am seeing alot more companies
using Protel. It was unthinkable a few years ago. The ones using DXP don't
know any better, because DXP probably works better than the crap they used
to have.
Mike Reagan
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from 99SE. The
impedance driven traces are really cool. I would like to see the same for
temp driven traces ( even willing to pay for this as an add on). I am
trying to convince another company to switch to 2004 , it is that good
Mike Reagan
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Joe
Calling the shots like I see them. One thing I noticed ...because I can
store pcb files as pcb files again my files are manageble sizes. I really
like that.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
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this week also. The
only software installed on my machine this weeek was Gates trash.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
Frederick MD
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Emanuel,
I forgot to mention you can also use the layer assignment in classes. This
also works well. I have found this be hard to set in Spectra.
Mike Reagan
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Thanks to all that responded, I received the information I needed about the
ASCII format
Thank you
Mike Reagan
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From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 6:01 PM
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you'd want to change is
very clear.
Abdul,
We intend to heavily modify the ASCII file. I would not like to ASSUME
that the obscure fileds are also self-documenting. Again, Thank you all
who responded
Mike Reagan
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Hello All
Does anyone know a source or information for the format of Protel 99SE ASCII
PCB files. I intend to modify ASCII files but would like to know the real
format.
Thanks in advance
Mike Reagan
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upgrades to a company
also. All 11 seats are unopened because it was unusable.
Born Sucker
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Hamid
Use the CAM manager, set up test point output, select IPC 356 format. Make
sure all origin in pcb and gerber are set to absolute . The IPC format
works great, we use it for all of our designs
Mike Reagan
EDSI
Frederick MD
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this software this week.
Regards
Mike Reagan
EDSI Frederick MD
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Hello All,
I was contemplating what my next move with Protel will be and came up with
an idea of creating an open sourced SP7 software for 99SE. Before I put my
foot in my mouth, is there a future for open sourced Service Packs?
is it legal?
Mike Reagan
EDSI
I thinks Jon is right we need the source code to start
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hell, i'd buy a closed source one!
ds
Mike Reagan wrote
Hello All
Has anyone had any luck running antenna DRCs in DXP Camptastik?
Specifically how do you set this thing up.
Mike Reagan
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, HT1, HT2, HT3.you need to check the box
(multilayer check).
It works, another non feature in DXP Did I confuse everyone?
Mike Reagan
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Alphonso,
I create keep out fill layer on layer 30 which we rarely use to keep vias out. It
works for us
Mike Reagan
Frederick Md
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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:07 AM
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Hello All,
This topic was covered long ago...for schematics. But does anyone make a
pcb viewer (not gerber) for Protel, cheap?
Mike Reagan
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import. Try saving the ASCII file back to version 3. then import again.
If you have problems, feel free to email me [EMAIL PROTECTED] for help.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
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I am more interested in whether you think everyone should always use
netlist import.
Ian,
If you don't ever have to port to third party tools then the netlist isn't
important, I guess. But on the other hand I made a good case how useful it
is to trouble shoot a designs for single nodes,
four steps to
recovery.
The four steps work without failure, every time. I do not trust a netlist
load without clearing first because as we all know we don'ts know which
cycle even or odd the load is on.
Mike Reagan
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wont define critical here but you get the picture, I need a
netlist to provide him the information. I cant provide this information on
a system that is not netlist driven.
Mike Reagan
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no bug.
There is a bug with the syncronizer , its called time. Clear takes 1
minutes vs .taking a smoke break for the syncronizer to crunch.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
At 12:14 AM 2/14/2003, Ian Wilson wrote:
I know, Mike, that you get netlists often rather than P99SE sch so
over the gerber
files, and don't have any method of checking DRCs.So we scrapped that
idea.I just posted a solution for copper pours in my last email using
the No Hatch method. I have been working with some board houses on this
one.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
, but it the entire
process can be over and done with in 5- 15 minutes on large designs.
The synchronizer is fine on small boards. We have one backplane, a
designer recently took 4 hours to load a netlist. Using the synchronizer
would have taken a week.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
Frederick MD
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board (still 1800 chips!).
I'd hate to do a clearance check on your board ;-)
Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website: www.bagotronix.com
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.
Review your DRCs , if you have everything set up right it should all read 0
I will guarantee this is 100 percent fool proof.
Good Luck
Mike Reagan
EDSI
Frederick Md
About Netlist Compare and Partially Matched Nets. Protel 99SE SP6.
Hello All,
Have a PCB design that is completely routed
an assumption) I wouldnt have had mud in my face. Clear the
netlist, import the netlist , connect copper, run drcs .100 percent of
the time and you will never have a problem. So said the fool of the week
only because I made an assumption.
Mike Reagan
Hello Mike,
I tried your fool proof
Jami
Are you unemployed ?
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And of course for those who think
CD.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
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On 09:52 AM 15/01/2003 -0500, Dan said:
Greetings all,
We are thinking of upgrading
that it can be used
for real work.I cant afford to have mistakes on a PC board because of
buggy software.I just recommended to a client to upgrade 11 seats, my
reputation is on the line.
Mike Reagan
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gee that sounds pretty high, can you do it for less? :)
Well there are few good fellows on this list that have done me some favors
so I needed to at least make the offer
Mike Reagan
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Dennis,
If Eagle outputs to any other standard netlist, I can convert it for you no
charge to Protel format.I have an RSI netlist translator. By the way
small pitch for RSI, this product works well.
Mike
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Mike Reagan
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Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP SE (Second Edition)
On 11:37 AM 7/01/2003 -0800, JaMi Smith said:
Just got my DXP SE CD in the mail.
While
critical components even connectors.It works
Merry Christmas
Mike Reagan
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On 03:45 PM 19/12/2002 -0500, Mike Reagan said:
Rich,
I wanted to select nets already in a class .is that possible , Master?
Don't ask me why I wanted to do it , cant remember
Mike
Easy in both P99SE and DXP. P99SE you do it from the Classes dialog
(Design menu) - just select the class
I'm going to break
down before Dec 31 for the special offer. It sounds like a good deal.
Mike Reagan
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like a good deal.
Mike Reagan
I may be completely wrong and miss the point here, but in the class
editor, there is a button to select the selected class!
(nets,components, whatever)
We too have taken Altium up on the end of year offer for dxp, half price
is too good to miss out on ;-)
Take
: Thursday, December 19, 2002 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium offers
On 09:42 AM 19/12/2002 -0500, Mike Reagan said:
I certainly hope that Altium do *not* change back to the limited form
of
globals in P99SE.
There were and are on certain occasions that I have found the selection
that they
are listening to this request.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
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Ivan,
I didn't get
as a back
just in case it occurs again. It has only happened once to me, but has
happened several times to other engineers I work with.I recommend
keeping a backup of Protel ini, rcs and ras files
Mike Reagan
EDSI
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Don
off to the side of your design place a pad , change it 0 mils, select
it then globally select all the same, then delete them all if then at once,
regenerate gerber files
Mike
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it's pretty good
it changes the way most file box dialogs work
makes them resizable, has a list of favorites, preserves details sorting
etc etc
Dennis Saputelli
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a defualt
to open explorer to another Drive or my own folders and look in my D drive
first
Would like to know how this is done both in Win 98 and XP. Thanks in
advance
Mike Reagan
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From: John M. Cardone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Mike,
Most, if not all windows programs remember (in the system
registry) the last
directory used by that program.
Is that so,open up Camtastik ..import gerber...my documents
every time
Mike,
not sure precisely what you were trying to say, the net police seem to
have
struck out key words from your reply. Maybe they took offence at some
language you might have used. 8^
Brad,
What the $@%/happened to my $@%/language? I thought I sent a
clean email out
Mike
, this was really important for us
Mike Reagan
EDSI
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From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:02 PM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] 10 best options I want
Bob,
I have seen some messages previously about
are always picked up.It is as if their
origins are out of range. I have tried recreating the 1 contact part and
the problem is repeatable. I never nailed the problem down, but I will
look into elimating the keepout circle to see if that works.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
Frederick MD , USA
in and out), or any pattern you choose to create.
I would realize huge time savings , would any of you ? Any comments?
Any comments from Altium?
Mike Reagan
EDSI
Frederick MD
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? This is the most troublesome problem we
have with engineers using an old schematic as a reference then updating the
schematic from the libraries. Has this little problem been addressed in
DXP?
Thanks for the inputsmaybe we will take a second look at it now.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
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for 6 days a week , 365 days a year
That must be a pretty neat trick!
Steve Hendrix
So my math doesnt addyou are correct Steve
Mike
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it was
the only board in my Protel history that showed up with a problem. So I
remember it well. I sent that one to Protel several years ago.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
Frederick MD
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From: Dave Eloranta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent
Dave,
You didnt mention if this was a result of a split plane passing thru the
hole.This is the only time I have ever encountered a short in which the
DRC did not catch it. Actually it is the only DRC that has ever failed for
me.
Mike
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From: Dave Eloranta
Subject: Re: [PEDA] shorted planes due to alignment pin holes with no plane
expansion
Mike
I have no split planes passing thru the hole. I do have traces drawn in
the
planes that channel currents.
Dave
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From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday
Dennis,
This program sometimes is amazing, some of us like you have been using it
for years. It doesn't surprise me that you would find another hidden
feature. Today I think I found a hidden bug but what is the use of
reporting it if the program is obsolete ?
Mike
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of the defaults alone on the installation. It used
to work flawlessly for me. So I really don't know if this was a bug ,
Mike Reagan
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From: Igor Gmitrovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA
I agree with Ivan, I know in MD it would be difficult to enforce EULAs
because the terms are not disclosed at the time of purchase, which is in
violation of State Law.
But Altium is no way obligated to honor the sale or transfer of the software
either
Mike Reagan
EDSI
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Actually, Flaming Altium has apparently resulted in Altium beginning to
listen to users, sans ATS, etc.
aj
Either flames or lack of sales did it
Mike
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...but the tool better work.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
Frederick MD
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