Re: Euro/London Presence (was: Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs])

Heh, I will admit that I submitted an advanced topic at my first PuppetCamp and the result was that I lost 95% of the audience, 2 people actively went to sleep, and 6 folks in the back were absolutely thrilled that I had presented the content. So...yeah, I'm not sure what the right answer is. 1)

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs]

On Apr 13, 2016, at 1:48 AM, Andreas Zuber wrote: > > > > On 04/11/2016 07:38 PM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: >> >> >> On 11 Apr 2016, at 17:45, Eric Shamow < >> eric.sha...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> On April 11, 2016 at 4:08:51 AM, R.I

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs]

On Apr 12, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Dean Wilson wrote: > > On 11 April 2016 at 12:08, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > >> Eric asked so here it is, this is my feedback with a open source user hat >> on. Echoing much what was said. I hope others send in their story. > > Since you asked so politely. > > I have

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: Euro/London Presence (was: Re: Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs])

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Thomas Gelf wrote: > Last time was at last years PuppetConf, had a very nice discussion, do > not remember with whom. There I have been told that this could be part > of the upcoming virtual classroom trainings. I realized right a couple > of minutes ago that ther

Re: [Puppet-dev] The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs]

On Apr 11, 2016, at 4:08 AM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Thomas Gelf" >> To: "puppet-dev" >> Sent: Monday, 11 April, 2016 03:30:58 >> Subject: [Puppet-dev] Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs] > >> Am 11.04.2016 um 03:01 schrieb Rob Nelson: >>> Of cou

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: Euro/London Presence (was: Re: Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs])

A workshop on building tests (or even two - one for module code, one for types/providers/functions/etc) would also be valuable. Rob Nelson rnels...@gmail.com On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Thomas Gelf wrote: > Am 13.04.2016 um 19:04 schrieb Thomas Gelf: > > [...] but I have always been (and

[Puppet-dev] Re: Euro/London Presence (was: Re: Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs])

Am 13.04.2016 um 19:04 schrieb Thomas Gelf: > [...] but I have always been (and still am) asked whether there is > available something like a "Best practices training". NB: It didn't matter what kind of Puppet class this was. Something like a "Best practices training" was requested by all kind of

[Puppet-dev] Re: Euro/London Presence (was: Re: Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs])

Am 13.04.2016 um 17:05 schrieb Rob Nelson: > More of a workshop, than a hackathon? Yes. Kind of a "Getting started hands on workshop". How often have you been asked how to write a module "the right way"? You could use a lot of words explaining many things, or just sit down together and build a con

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: Euro/London Presence (was: Re: Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs])

On 13 April 2016 at 15:50, Thomas Gelf wrote: > Am 13.04.2016 um 16:15 schrieb Nigel Kersten: >> Thomas, it does feel like you're describing a mix between our >> Contributor Summit and #puppethack events. > > Not really, I guess I didn't cleanly distinct my thoughts. It should > read: "Hackathons

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: Euro/London Presence (was: Re: Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs])

More of a workshop, than a hackathon? Rob Nelson rnels...@gmail.com On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Thomas Gelf wrote: > Am 13.04.2016 um 16:15 schrieb Nigel Kersten: > > Thomas, it does feel like you're describing a mix between our > > Contributor Summit and #puppethack events. > > Not real

Re: Euro/London Presence (was: Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs])

On 13 April 2016 at 14:49, 'Tim Meusel' via Puppet Developers wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch, 13. April 2016 02:15:57 UTC+2 schrieb Rob Nelson: >> >> >>> I'd also be remiss not to point out we've got way more scope to have >>> advanced talks at PuppetConf in the US and the CFP is open. >>> http://20

[Puppet-dev] Re: Euro/London Presence (was: Re: Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs])

Am 13.04.2016 um 16:15 schrieb Nigel Kersten: > Thomas, it does feel like you're describing a mix between our > Contributor Summit and #puppethack events. Not really, I guess I didn't cleanly distinct my thoughts. It should read: "Hackathons will not work at entry-level-camps, but you could run so

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: Euro/London Presence (was: Re: Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs])

Top-posting as I'm responding to the higher level point rather than the details. Thomas, it does feel like you're describing a mix between our Contributor Summit and #puppethack events. I believe it makes more sense to double down on the more advanced/hacking topics at a large virtual event like

Re: Euro/London Presence (was: Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs])

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 6:49 AM, 'Tim Meusel' via Puppet Developers < puppet-dev@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > That would be really cool. Most other conferences here handle it like > this: 45 or 60min talk -> 15min Q&A -> 15min break to change room (if there > are several parallel tracks). The spea

Re: Euro/London Presence (was: Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs])

Am Mittwoch, 13. April 2016 02:15:57 UTC+2 schrieb Rob Nelson: > > > I'd also be remiss not to point out we've got way more scope to have >> advanced talks at PuppetConf in the US and the CFP is open. >> http://2016.puppetconf.com/cfp-registration/ >> > > Speaking to the advanced realm, is

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs]

> There was one comment in this thread from puppet(labs) which hinted at > that there isn't a lot of contribution to the open source puppet from > the community and that puppet(labs) has to do all the work. Well maybe, Actually I said that and I don't work at Puppet (Labs). It's also still true.

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: Idea: Deprecation logs

I created https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/PUP-6169 for those who want to watch/vote/comment further. Thanks everyone! Rob Nelson rnels...@gmail.com On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Rob Nelson wrote: > On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 5:05 AM, Alex Harvey wrote > >> >> On 10 April 2016 at 03:59,

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs]

I've been staying out of this thread for various reasons, but Rob's statement on "Puppet for CM and Ansible to Orchestrate it" resonates well with me. One of the big benefits that I see with the Puppet DSL is the understandability of the language. I can show the DSL statements to most people and,

Re: Euro/London Presence (was: Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs])

Hmm, fair enough. I think for the Advanced materials, you would want to have an up-front review and possibly have it run by a local representative (PUG owners?). That way, you can focus on the usual event and let the splinter run semi-independently. I've just been looking at some of the recent th

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs]

On 12 April 2016 at 20:04, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> From: "dean" >> To: "puppet-dev" >> Sent: Tuesday, 12 April, 2016 20:56:09 >> Subject: Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs] > >> On 12 April 2016 at 19:16, Ryan Whitehurst wrote: >>

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: The Future of Puppet [Was: Deprecation logs]

On 04/11/2016 07:38 PM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: On 11 Apr 2016, at 17:45, Eric Shamow > wrote: On April 11, 2016 at 4:08:51 AM, R.I.Pienaar (r...@devco.net ) wrote: - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Gelf" mailto:tho...@gelf.net>