it
was deemed too complex by the few people who seemed to notice the work.
Can you elaborate on where the reuse is necessary?
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to do recursive management on that second file
statement - what behaviour woould you expect to see, if the top-level
recursion still managed the other directory, especially if purging
were enabled? You'd have the two file statements fighting, it seems.
So yeah, this is expected behaviour,
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I'm not sure on whether this goes to -dev or -users, so eh. My
only caveat is that I check -dev religiously (it still goes to my
inbox) but -users only when I have time (like when it's 3am and I
can't sleep :/).
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> the way you
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I completely concur here - usability is terribly important to us, and
fixing unclear error messages is a big part of that.
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> cron...
It's not possible today, unfortunately. Soon?
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n that system, and puppet's autoloader isn't doing a good job
of telling you what the problem is.
Can you look at the client logs in more detail? Maybe an error is
being logged that you're not noticing because it's not initially fatal.
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ut don't. :/
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>>> We're grown ups. If someone is bugging us out-of-band, we can tell
>>> them to go away, block their email, or decide to accompany them to
AJ/fujin.
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> On Mar 4, 3:56 am, Luke Kanies wrote:
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>> Not to nit-pick, but it's more that I just couldn't write in the
>> language. I did try pretty hard, and have since successfully written
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On Mar 3, 2009, at 1:42 PM, Larry Ludwig wrote:
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>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 9:27 PM, Larry Ludwig wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Trevor Hemsley wrote:
>&
On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:05 AM, Ryan Steele wrote:
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> On Feb 27, 5:56 pm, Luke Kanies wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Ryan Steele wrote:
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>>> Does Puppet have any plans to make resource types for special files,
>>> such as FIFO pipes a
but have your client talking directly
to Mongrel, rather than through a proxy that does SSL termination for
you?
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y) you want it in the most general block possible.
If there's no harm in putting it in main, you should *always* do so.
Otherwise, only the named executable will have access to those settings.
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oyed him.
Not to nit-pick, but it's more that I just couldn't write in the
language. I did try pretty hard, and have since successfully written
a bit in it (in Jython, actually), but I just could never turn my
ideas into code in Python. And no, it wasn't the white space.
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
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he brain,
involved in many kinds of motivation, among other functions. The
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probably a bit redundant since you also likely have it in DNS. There
are ways to mitigate that, too, but you're clearly in the realm of "I
have a complicated system and would like to spend a bunch of time on
it".
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er schedule you wanted.
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more than 15 seconds (by default).
If you absolutely don't want any stale data, another approach is an
external node tool.
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schedule is
actually in there. Because it sounds like you're just not getting
that schedule.
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y a ruby error, and it's one I've never seen. I
can't think of what it would be, and it doesn't look like you're doing
anything with threads. Maybe IniFile is doing threading that you need
to be cognizant of?
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obably go with a
monkey-patch, or a straight patch, for now, and if you come up with
something better, let us know.
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this could be a long-running problem that
no one's run into.
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inst the most recent HEAD of 0.24.x?
I certainly hope this isn't a different problem, and it sounds just
like the same issue.
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so, I apologize for the oversight.
josb has provided a 1.9 compatibility patch, but we stupidly have not
merged it in yet.
It'll be in 0.25, though.
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to be the problem now.
Is there maybe a signal being sent to puppetd? If not, any chance you
can get a stack trace from the clients?You'd have to leave a
client running in the foreground with stdout redirected.
Otherwise I've no idea, because you're the first to run into it
least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things.
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ou change it in the configuration file.
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too. Can you file this as a bug?
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this too complicated. Can't you just set
'links => manage' on the file, and have your file copy replace the
symlink?
That certainly *should* work.
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ds a bit silly, but how confident are you that the install of
0.24.6 restarted puppetd?
It sounds like these selinux commands were never working on your
machine, so it could be that you were running an older version in
memory, and the restart started up that new version.
Otherwise... I think 0.24.7 wi
t necessarily something to be ashamed of, but do it in
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to compile the configuration.
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Myresource, with the implication being that it's
actually interested in events from the Exec. In this situation,
you've broken the edge between myresource and the exec, so the service
could never see events cascading that way.
However, it's the closest I've gotte
x27;ve seen.
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On Feb 6, 2009, at 2:04 AM, nicolas wrote:
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> On Feb 5, 7:27 pm, Luke Kanies wrote:
>> On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Benoit Decherf wrote:
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>>> Ok.
>>
>>> About the external nodes, why doesn't it possible to use
>>> definition ?
ing about ext/setup, but I've never had
to compile ruby (w00t!), so I don't really know.
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you'll currently lose some
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really* careful about changing it.
Um, sure? I don't like committing to things, but...
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>> On Feb 5, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Trevor Vaughan wrote:
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>>> Benoit,
>>>
>>> If you wa
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> It seems to work in 0.24.6, but heck if I know if it's supposed to.
Heh, nice. Yeah, Puppet's call-by-value, so if you modify the value,
the modification will stick. I can't see us ever changing that.
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han including the
client's facts during the compile process.
>
> still working on fitting Puppet in the bigger picture of my
> project thanks for your help.
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ich i just completely failed to understand) i'm not
> gathering what the magic incantation is that's lacking.
That looks like it should work. When you run with debugging, does it
talk about rewriting the file?
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>> On Feb 4, 2009, at 1:20 PM, benoit wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was looking for a solution to change the value of a variable using
come fashions.
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which doesn't exist
everywhere).
We certainly didn't mean to change the results here.
In other words, we try to maintain backward compatibility, and we'll
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> whose names start with ‘FACTER_’ (case insensitive)
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> Perhaps the right thing to do is prepend FACTER_ to all the fact
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It should definitely be straightforward to do.
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> 5. Keep Facter simple.
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> My love of facter stems from how easy it is to create new facts, and
> to interpret the data that comes from it. Please don't break that!
Definitely a goal.
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-time change. Iff the fact does not change
> back
I agree on the stability, and we're going to make sure that all of
this work will be as stable as possible, both in values and
interface. One of the things I really like about ShadowFacter is that
the interface is 100% backward
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fact value won't update in the same process -- I'd put all of that
code inside the setcode block.
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ross 2 data centers, but all talk to the same puppet master.
> I’ve also noticed that these are very slow at exiting puppet.
>
> Anyone have any ideas what could have happened to these 4 systems?
Might you have a fact that's broken, or something similar? That's
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>> Français and failed,
>
> Would that be "de rien, et bienvenue"?
Oui, merci.
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This allows you to build arbitrary metadata around your resources, and
then add them to the catalog without literal listings.
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s requires more work on your buildup, and would also require that
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think about adding that to the
system, being conscious of its performance cost -- it should be easy
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> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 06:40:54PM -0600, Luke Kanies wrote:
>>> PS. May be my first message in this list, so : "mille mercis
>>> pour cet outil fantastique !" :-)
>>
>>
>> /me fails
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> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 04:54:53PM -0600, Luke Kanies wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'd appreciate your help improving our understanding of what the
>> community is most looking for from Puppet, how Re
=> "puppet://cobbler.cica.es/files/sge.conf",
>owner => root,
> group => root,
>force => true,
>mode => 755,
>path => "/tmp/sge.conf"
>}
>
> }
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dredge up rusty Français from college
Welcome to the community, and thanks. :)
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but... I haven't seen
the compiles just not show up; you should at least get an error.
Unless for some reason the client is reusing the cached catalog when
it should, but... it never should.
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>
> I feel like I've got to be missing something here. Thanks.
The only real way to do this is to use an external nodes tool. I've
attached a simple script that serves node infromation out of YAML
files; it isn't awesome but it'll do what you want, anyway.
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'notify' resources -- you don't have to worry about changing files or
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