On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Mike Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Kevin G. Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> This is an interesting point. It might make sense to start a documentation
>> standard. One that all these projects could embrace moving forward. If
> Sphinx looks likely to become it. Both Pylons and Paste have switched
> to it, as has Python's development versions. See:
>
> http://docs.pylonshq.com/ (unfinished)
> http://pythonpaste.org/
These are basically unfinished too, but I figured it was better than how
it used to be any
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Kevin G. Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is an interesting point. It might make sense to start a documentation
> standard. One that all these projects could embrace moving forward. If the
> docs were all in a standard format, like "man", they could be easi
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From: "Thomas G. Willis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pylons-discuss"
Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 7:17:52 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: How did you begin your fun with Pylons?
On May 22, 10:37 am, Mikeroz <[EMAIL PROTECT
On May 22, 10:37 am, Mikeroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey guys,
> I'm wondering where did you start your journey with Pylons? I'm asking
> this questions because of the low number of tutorials, sh*tty
> tutorials on Pylons site maybe there's a big boom about 0.9.7?
> Honestly - I don't th
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Mateusz Haligowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I could add my 2c to the discussion, I also would like to complain about
> the documentation:)
>
> My personal favorite type of documentation (ie. learning new stuff) is:
> 1. very general tutorial (like the one on
If I could add my 2c to the discussion, I also would like to complain about
the documentation:)
My personal favorite type of documentation (ie. learning new stuff) is:
1. very general tutorial (like the one on the PylonsHQ)
2. expanded tutorials - general tutorial divided into parts, with deeper
e
On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 18:15 -0400, Noah Gift wrote:
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> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Alberto Valverde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > I'm not making any judgments about anyone. However, I did
> see a great
> > talk y
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Alberto Valverde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > I'm not making any judgments about anyone. However, I did see a great
> > talk yesterday called "How Open Source Projects Survive Poisonous
> > People": http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm
Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> I'm not making any judgments about anyone. However, I did see a great
> talk yesterday called "How Open Source Projects Survive Poisonous
> People": http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeE
>
> It's definitely worth watching ;)
>
Nah, I don't think there has been any
I'm not making any judgments about anyone. However, I did see a great
talk yesterday called "How Open Source Projects Survive Poisonous
People": http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeE
It's definitely worth watching ;)
-jj
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Jonathan Vanasco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr
On May 29, 8:07 am, "Alberto Valverde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps a trip to archives [1] to refresh your memory on the tone of some
> of your posts can shed a light on the reason you felt treated in this way
> by TG's dev. community.
Perhaps my tone got increasingly negative as a respo
> On May 22, 6:07 pm, "Shannon -jj Behrens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ben Bangert and I decided to meet for dinner in Berkeley. I got very
>> lost and ended up in Oakland. I finally got to the restaurant an hour
>> late. Ben had already eaten. We had a good talk about Web
>> development.
On May 22, 6:07 pm, "Shannon -jj Behrens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ben Bangert and I decided to meet for dinner in Berkeley. I got very
> lost and ended up in Oakland. I finally got to the restaurant an hour
> late. Ben had already eaten. We had a good talk about Web
> development. He t
> Noah, there's your cue ;) All the information is there, you just have
> to cat | sort | uniq it ;)
Ok, it is a deal then. I "should" have time on May 31st and that
weekend to document at least my version of a tutorial based on that
info. I completely agree with Mike Orr, the best writing com
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:06 AM, Raoul Snyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If you want me
>> to be obligated to you, I'll send you my hourly rates. Otherwise,
>> we're all volunteers.
>
> Mike, please don't be so defensive. I was not accusing you of
> anything, and I was not telling you to be ob
On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 11:06 +0200, Raoul Snyman wrote:
> But this is the exact response I was talking about. Instead of being
> gracious about something, some developers become defensive and then
> attack back. And Mike, this is not a personal attack on you, this is a
> trend I have seen in a nu
> I never said the community wasn't doing anything. I understand
> perfectly if somebody feels they don't know a subject well enough to
> write about it; I do that myself. Or if they just don't have an
> inclination to, that's fine too. And f somebody thinks the
> documentation is spotty and ha
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 08:46:39AM +0200, Raoul Snyman wrote:
> I will have to agree with the sentiments already voiced here. The
> documentation is very sparse, and it relies on the user having a good
> understanding of MVC frameworks (like RoR and CakePHP).
Actually, I've found that it's a case
On May 23, 1:38 am, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You rang? :) I had once upon a time started an introcution at
>
>http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pylonscookbook/Concepts+of+Pylons
>
>
> Then Ben started calling for more documentation for the 0.9.7 documentation
> and intro
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:38 AM, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Freitag, 23. Mai 2008, Mike Orr wrote:
>> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Raoul Snyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> > I will have to agree with the sentiments already voiced here. The
>> > documentation is very sp
On Freitag, 23. Mai 2008, Mike Orr wrote:
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Raoul Snyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > I will have to agree with the sentiments already voiced here. The
> > documentation is very sparse, and it relies on the user having a good
> > understanding of MVC frameworks
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Raoul Snyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I will have to agree with the sentiments already voiced here. The
> documentation is very sparse, and it relies on the user having a good
> understanding of MVC frameworks (like RoR and CakePHP).
I wish Christoph were h
I will have to agree with the sentiments already voiced here. The
documentation is very sparse, and it relies on the user having a good
understanding of MVC frameworks (like RoR and CakePHP). Having
actually attempted to write my own MVC framework in PHP (and then
abandoning it due to limitations
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Mike Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Shannon -jj Behrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Mikeroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>> I'm wondering where did you start your journey wit
Wow, I thought by the subject this was going to be some endearing story
telling about how great Pylons is and why you came to use it as your chosen
framework for developing with Python and the web, etc.
Well, if this is a forum for such a thing let me say that I love Pylons and
started my venture
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Shannon -jj Behrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Mikeroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>> I'm wondering where did you start your journey with Pylons?
>
> Ben Bangert and I decided to meet for dinner in Berkeley. I got v
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Mikeroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey guys,
> I'm wondering where did you start your journey with Pylons?
Ben Bangert and I decided to meet for dinner in Berkeley. I got very
lost and ended up in Oakland. I finally got to the restaurant an hour
late. Ben had
On May 22, 2008, at 10:37 AM, Mikeroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
> I'm wondering where did you start your journey with Pylons? I'm asking
> this questions because of the low number of tutorials, sh*tty
> tutorials on Pylons site maybe there's a big boom about 0.9.7?
> Honestly
I'm introducing myself to Pylons, too. Even though Pylons is a
framework that incorporates the work of many others, I'm impressed
with its clarity and design with direct purpose. I, too, find
documentation to be scattered and of various vintages, and I certainly
look forward to a cohesive presen
Hey Mike,
It's funny that you said the big boom happen about a month ago. I'm the lead
in my company and was asked to pick a dynamic language and web framework
we can standardizes on nearly a month ago. After doing some research, I
recommended Python and Pylon.
I can't say much about either yet
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Mikeroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
> I'm wondering where did you start your journey with Pylons? I'm asking
> this questions because of the low number of tutorials, sh*tty
> tutorials on Pylons site maybe there's a big boom about 0.9.7?
> Honestly
Hey guys,
I'm wondering where did you start your journey with Pylons? I'm asking
this questions because of the low number of tutorials, sh*tty
tutorials on Pylons site maybe there's a big boom about 0.9.7?
Honestly - I don't think so... If I remember good - it should be on
more than a month ag
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