I'm happy to announce the release of Frog 1.7
Frog is a Blog server application written for Snakelets. It is small but has
many
features, such as BBcode markup, XHTML+CSS page output, multiple users, no
database
required, anti-spam measures, email notification, Smileys, RSS feeds, and more.
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes:
ap.py:4: No global (test) found
ap.py:5: Local variable (ego1d) not used
Helen:/tmp alex$
If you're so typo-prone and averse to unittests that you consider this
kind of issue to be a serious
Simon Brunning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/28/05, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If *real* private and protected are *enforced*, Python will be the
poorer for it. See
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/b977ed1312e10b21.
That's a wonderful, if long,
Kay Schluehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Honestly I like to use private/protect/public modifiers in C++ for the
sake of code documentation. I like to know which attributes are
dedicated to be known by other objects, which ones are for internal use
only and which ones should be at least publicly
Micah Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 05, Tuvas wrote:
I am looking for a good tutorial on how to extend python with C
code. I have an application built in C that I need to be able to use
in Python. I have searched through various sources, starting of
course with the Python site
I forgot to tell you that I'm using Windows.
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Dave wrote:
Hello All,
I would like to gather some information on Python's runtime
performance. As far as I understand, it deals with a lot of string
objects. Does it require a lot string processing during program
execution? How does it handle such time-consuming operations? Is there
if glob.glob(...): ...
As for your possible solutions, if you consider any
of yours to be readable, then i have no interest in
coding with you.
if glob.glob(...): ...
I guess, for readability, nothing has come up that
seems _great_.
if glob.glob(...): ...
It works, it's elegant,
George Sakkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, that looks like Mike's solution except that it uses the
built-in heapq module.
This make a big difference for the algorithmic complexity; replacing an
item in a heap is much more efficient
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Are people really too lazy to do elementary research on Google?
goes a bit too far in imputing motives to the enquirer and overlooking
the fact that there are some very good reasons for *not* using Google.
It's a good thing you don't actually
Alex Martelli wrote:
try it (and read the Timbot's article included in Python's sources, and the
sources themselves)...
Just a reading advise. The translated PyPy source
pypy/objectspace/listsort.py might be more accessible than the
corresponding C code.
Kay
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Notice anything strange here? The Python entry seems to have edged the PHP
entries, but is not declared the victor. Source is missing as well (the
archive
is empty.)
http://www.apress.com/promo/fractal/seesource.html
H... an irrational fear of snakes
James Hu wrote:
I have png file with mode I, 16 bit,
And I tried to open it with im=Image.open(output.png), im.show()
I got all white image.
Don't why?
because all of the PNG file are larger than 255 ?
show doesn't support 16-bit images, so it clamps the values down to
an 8-bit range.
Terry Hancock wrote:
On Friday 07 October 2005 03:44 pm, Steve Holden wrote:
Precisely because there *is* such a thing as a saving. If I buy a $100
gumball for $80 I have achieved a saving of 20%.
Nope, that's incorrect American. ;-)
You can say I bought a $100 gumball for $80, saving
Duncan Smith wrote:
Rocco Moretti wrote:
[...]
So English is spoken only in the South East of England, except London?
I think you should also disbar the queen (unless she's already
classified as a Londoner), due to her apparent confusion between the 1st
person singular and 1st person plural
is there any Python code for spatial tessellation?
thanks a lot!
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(re that earlier thread, I think that everyone that thinks that it's a
good thing that certain Python constructs makes grammatical sense
in english should read the previous post carefully...)
Rob Cowie wrote:
A string can be thought of as a tuple of characters.
footnote: the correct python
I don't know much about numerical aerodynamics, but assume that you are
interested in a finite element solver. I googled a bit and found the
following projects. The first is a 2d finite element solver for python.
The second is a 2d finite element solver without python.
Michele Simionato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
I have noticed a while ago that inside generators StopIteration is
automatically trapped, i.e.
def g():
yield 1
raise StopIteration
yield Never reached
only yields 1. Not sure if this is documented behavior, however, of if
Steve Holden wrote:
...
Or is the green tomato also unacceptable?
Of course it is. We all know* it should be the green fried tomato, or the
killer tomato.
:-)
(is it me, or is the subject line for this thread silly? After all, what
accent would you expect from someone in the UK? However,
Terry Hancock wrote:
Well, yeah, although the correct pronunciation is apparently
te-tra-HEE-dra-GON.
As opposed to a te-tra-SHE-dra-GON ?
;-)
Michael.
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On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 18:56 +0200, Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Alex Willmer wrote:
I'm trying to track down the name of a file format and python module,
that was featured in the Daily Python URL some time in the last month or
two.
http://www.netpromi.com/kirbybase.html ?
No I don't think
Yup, still there, issues 1 and 2
http://pyzine.com/Issue002/index.html
Also recommend Dave Kuhlman's brief intro (open in your tabbed browser)
http://www.rexx.com/~dkuhlman/python_201/python_201.html#SECTION00600
Alex Martelli wrote:
Micah Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On
beza1e1 wrote:
Hm, you didn't include a link and my google did not find the final
results.
I could not find a link, but the results appear on page 88 of the
November 2005 issue of Linux Journal.
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On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 15:07 -0700, Paul Rubinhttp: wrote:
rbt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The server just logs data, nothing else. It's not private or important
data... just sys admin type stuff (ip, mac addy, etc.). I just don't
want some script kiddie discovering it and trying to 'hack' it.
My native language is not English so I just wonder how you pronounce
wxPython.
vi-ex python
double-you-ex python
wax-python
or something else
Thanks
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Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My native language is not English so I just wonder how you pronounce
wxPython.
vi-ex python
double-you-ex python
wax-python
or something else
I'm sure you'll get five different answers.
Personally, I say the 'wx' bit as 'wooks' (like 'books' in Southern
I'd always assumed it was doubleyew-ecks python, but it could be wicks
python, or similar.
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Nicolas Pernetty wrote:
I'm looking for any work/paper/ressource about continuous system
simulation using Python or any similar object oriented languages (or
even UML theory !).
I'm aware of SimPy for discrete event simulation, but I haven't found
any work about continuous system.
I would
After working through a fair number of the challenges at
www.mathschallenge.net, I noticed that some long-running functions can
be helped *a lot* by caching their function results and retrieving from
cache instead of calculating again. This means that often I can use a
natural recursive
Steve Holden wrote:
Then again, there's room for infinite disagreement about these topics. I
mentioned a while ago that I disliked the English on a bumper sticker I
liked, which read
Some village in Texas is missing their idiot.
Several people defended this, saying that a village could
On 07/10/05, rbt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have written a python socketServer program and I have a few questions
This is a multithreaded non-blocking version of your server (not
tested), with a basic attempt to hande errors.
from socket import *
from SocketServer import *
import time,
Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen wrote:
However, this:
for index in range(1, 101):
print index, fibonacci(idx = index)
this one uses the kwargs list of arguments, and I'm not sure how to
change my function to take that into account.
Does anyone have any clues as to how to do that?
The
Java and Swing wrote:
I need to write an extension for a C function so that I can call it
from python.
C code (myapp.c)
==
typedef unsigned long MY_LONG;
char *DoStuff(char *input, MY_LONG *x) { ... }
so you pass in a string and an array of MY_LONGS...such as
MY_LONGS vals[10] =
Steve Holden wrote:
Duncan Smith wrote:
Rocco Moretti wrote:
[...]
So English is spoken only in the South East of England, except London?
I think you should also disbar the queen (unless she's already
classified as a Londoner), due to her apparent confusion between the 1st
person
From: Alex Willmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] inquired
I'm trying to track down the name of a file format and python module,
that was featured in the Daily Python URL some time in the last month
or
two.
The format was ASCII with a multiline header defining types for the
comma seperated column
On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 01:53:28PM +, Duncan Booth wrote:
Unless the results stored in the cache are very large data structures, I
would suggest that you simply store (args,kwargs) as the cache key and
accept the hit that sometime you'll cache the same call multiple times.
... except
Kay Schluehr wrote:
Alex Martelli wrote:
try it (and read the Timbot's article included in Python's sources, and the
sources themselves)...
Just a reading advise. The translated PyPy source
pypy/objectspace/listsort.py might be more accessible than the
corresponding C code.
indeed. it
What about not storing args at all? Something like this:
def cache_function(func, args_list):
cache = {}
def cached_result(*args, **kwargs):
kwargs.update(dict(zip(args_list, args)))
if kwargs in cache:
return cache[kwargs]
result = func(**kwargs)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 01:53:28PM +, Duncan Booth wrote:
Unless the results stored in the cache are very large data structures, I
would suggest that you simply store (args,kwargs) as the cache key and
accept the hit that sometime you'll cache the same call
Sam Pointon wrote:
What about not storing args at all? Something like this:
def cache_function(func, args_list):
cache = {}
def cached_result(*args, **kwargs):
kwargs.update(dict(zip(args_list, args)))
if kwargs in cache:
return cache[kwargs]
Hello,
I'm working on a simple project in Python that reads in two csv files
and compares items in one file with items in another for matches. I
read the files in using the csv module, adding each line into a list.
Then I run the comparision on the lists. This works fine, but I'm
curious about
Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen wrote:
Yeah, but as far as I can see it, this one too fails to recognize
situations where the function is called twice with essentially the same
values, except that in one call it uses named arguments:
k1 = fibonacci(100)
k2 = fibonacci(idx = 100)
this is
Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen wrote:
Sam Pointon wrote:
What about not storing args at all? Something like this:
snip
Ok, here's my updated version:
class cache(object):
def __init__(self, timeout=0):
self.timeout = timeout
self.cache = {}
def __call__(self, fn):
Hi Jian,
I just struggled with the same problem - seems the python 2.4.2 does
not recognise readline 5
I finally solved the problem by installing readline 4.2, and
explicitly pointing out to configure where the readline library is
./configure --with-libs=/usr/local/lib/libreadline.a
That
I'm referring to the text in
http://www.python.org/doc/2.4.2/lib/module-md5.html, which shows the
same thing I see in the Windows version of the help.
The two examples show:
'\xbbd\x9c\x83\xdd\x1e\xa5\xc9\xd9\xde\xc9\xa1\x8d\xf0\xff\xe9'
as the output, and that is indeed what I see when I run
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
snip
k1 = fibonacci(100)
k2 = fibonacci(idx = 100)
snip
whoever writes code like that deserves to be punished.
I'd say this thread points to a misunderstanding of what keyword arguments
are, and how they should be used. the basic rule is that you shouldn't mix
and
Steve Horsley wrote:
[...]
The one that always makes me grit my teeth is You have got to,
don't you?. Well no, I do NOT got to, actually. Shudder!
Shouldn't that be I don't have to got to?
regards
Steve
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Nevermind--chr(0x64) is 'd', as in duh.
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Thanks everyone for helping once again, lots of good ideas there
Thanks,
-Ivan
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Laszlo Zsolt Nagy wrote:
There are benchmarks testing the *real performance* of Python.
For example: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5602
Just the observation that there are 166 comments to that article would
suggest that the methodology employed was somewhat debatable. (I don't
need
Madhusudan Singh schrieb:
Hi
I have a python application that writes a lot of data to a bunch of
files
from inside a loop. Sometimes, the application has to be interrupted and I
find that a lot of data has not yet been writen (and hence is lost). How do
I flush the buffer and
You'll probably see a slight speed increase with something like
for a in CustomersToMatch:
for b in Customers:
if a[2] == b[2]:
a[1] = b[1]
break
But a really fast approach is to use a dictionary or other structure
that turns the inner loop
[Alex Martelli]
try it (and read the Timbot's article included in Python's sources, and the
sources themselves)...
[Kay Schluehr]
Just a reading advise. The translated PyPy source
pypy/objectspace/listsort.py might be more accessible than the
corresponding C code.
[cfbolz]
indeed. it is at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, Google applies some Python in their implementation, see
http://www-db.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html
Some is correct. As for writing a search engine in Python _only_,
hmmm -- I honestly don't know. You could surely develop a working
Alex Martelli wrote:
George Sakkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Yes, it's a little inconvenient that the builtin heap doesn't take a
comparison operation but you can easily roll your own heap by transforming
each item to a (key,item) tuple. Now that I'm thinking about it, it might
be a good
Hello -
I'm probably missing something here, but I have a problem where I am
populating a list of lists like this:
list1 = [ 'a', 'b', 'c' ]
list2 = [ 'dog', 'cat', 'panda' ]
list3 = [ 'blue', 'red', 'green' ]
main_list = [ list1, list2, list3 ]
Once main_list is populated, I want to build a
Laszlo Zsolt Nagy wrote:
Dave wrote:
Hello All,
I would like to gather some information on Python's runtime
performance. As far as I understand, it deals with a lot of string
objects. Does it require a lot string processing during program
execution? How does it handle such
Yes, I would like to know how many internal string operations are done inside the Python interpreter.
Thanks.Laszlo Zsolt Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave wrote: Hello All, I would like to gather some information on Python's runtime performance. As far as I understand, it deals with a lot of
Alan Balmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted:
On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:14:45 GMT, Roedy Green
I try to explain Java each day both on my website on the plaintext
only newsgroups. It is so much easier to get my point across in HTML.
Program listings are much more readable on my website.
My
Can anyone show me an example of of using dis() with a traceback?
Examples of using disassemble_string() and distb() separately if
possible would be nice also.
I'm experimenting with modifying the dis module so that it returns it's
results instead of using 'print' it as it goes. I want to
Jesse Noller wrote:
60% from list 1 (main_list[0])
30% from list 2 (main_list[1])
10% from list 3 (main_list[2])
I know how to pull a random sequence (using random()) from the lists,
but I'm not sure how to pick it with the desired percentages.
Any help is appreciated, thanks
-jesse
Simulink is a framework widely used by the control engineers ...
It is not *perfect* but the ODEs piece is probably the best
part of the simulator. Why were you not convinced ?
You may also have a look at Scicos and Ptolemy II. These
simulators are open-source ... but not based on Python.
Perhaps this is a dumb question... but here goes. Should a socket client
and a socket server each have different values for
socket.setdefaulttimeout() what happens? Does the one with the shortest
timeout period end first?
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Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alex Martelli wrote:
George Sakkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Yes, it's a little inconvenient that the builtin heap doesn't take a
comparison operation but you can easily roll your own heap by transforming
each item to a (key,item) tuple.
ugly. i guess this thread shows that you are clueless regarding your
thread crapping.
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* Codetag PEP:
** I would like to comment on the codetags PEP, which I give a 0+.
I think the end is bad; I would be in favor of a block system or
something that looks more like regular Python (e.g. #
:FIXME(line_count=10, date='2005-08-09', ...) ).
** As to the comments that say
Hello everybody,
I just like to know what all of you think of adding this functionnality
to python language, or any other object oriented language in fact.
(English is not my natural language so please e-mail if you can improve this text...)
x.( ... ? ... ) could be equivalent to ( ... x
George Sakkis wrote:
snip
Just added a recipe at
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/440673. You can try
both and see if there's any significant performance difference for your data.
snip
Thanks, will take a look at it later. The sort solution seems to work
nicely. Might
Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
Ok, so I thought, how about creating a decorator that caches the
function results and retrieves them from cache if possible, otherwise it
calls the function and store the value in the cache for the next invokation.
[snip]
Cool, you
Title: RE: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?
Alex Martelli wrote:
I used to like [double-underscore private names], but as time
goes by have come to like it less and less; right now,
unless I have to respect existing coding standards,
I entirely avoid the
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Tim Tyler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Plain text is a badly impoverished medium for explaining things in.
For one thing, code on my web site tends to get syntax highlighted.
There's no way I could do that in plain text.
On your web site the use of additional
Paul Boddie wrote:
There are benchmarks testing the *real performance* of Python.
For example: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5602
Just the observation that there are 166 comments to that article would
suggest that the methodology employed was somewhat debatable. (I don't
need to
Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
George Sakkis wrote:
snip
Just added a recipe at
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/440673. You can
try
both and see if there's any significant performance difference for your
data.
snip
Thanks, will take a look
George Sakkis wrote:
snip
Cool, you re-invented the memoization pattern:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memoization
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/search?query=memoizex=0y=0section=PYTHONCKBKtype=Subsection
Yes, it's kinda discouraging that most interesting ideas have already been
Dave wrote:
Yes, I would like to know how many internal string operations are done inside
the Python interpreter.
when you're doing what?
how do you define internal string operations, btw?
/F
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Jesse Noller wrote:
I'm probably missing something here, but I have a problem where I am
populating a list of lists like this:
list1 = [ 'a', 'b', 'c' ]
list2 = [ 'dog', 'cat', 'panda' ]
list3 = [ 'blue', 'red', 'green' ]
main_list = [ list1, list2, list3 ]
Once main_list is
I've launched a new forum not too long ago, and I invite you all to go
there: www.wizardsolutionsusa.com (click on the forum link). We offer
all kinds of help, and for those of you who just like to talk, there's
a chit chat section just for you...Just remember that forum
communication is much
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I've launched a new forum not too long ago, and I invite you all to go
there: www.wizardsolutionsusa.com (click on the forum link). We offer
all kinds of help, and for those of you who just like to talk, there's
a chit chat section just for you...Just remember that
Does anyone know of a python module that can read and search the
tiger line data for geolocation?
Currently, I can use xmlrpc to query geocoder.us but I'd rather not
be querying their server if I don't have to.
Thanks
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On Saturday 08 October 2005 21:15, Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've launched a new forum not too long ago, and I invite you all to go
there: www.wizardsolutionsusa.com (click on the forum link). We offer
all kinds of help, and for those of you who just like to
Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen wrote:
Don't think so matey.
oh, come on. a site run by some random guy in North Carolina has to be
safer, faster and more reliable than a distributed communication system that
has been around since that guy was born...
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Besides that, it's cheap advertising. Would it have been harder to post the
direct forum link than to link to his company's website?
company?
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Well.. that put me in my place!
Fredrik Lundh - I hadn't realised that 'is' does not test for
equivalence. Thanks for the advice.
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seq = PySequence_Fast(data, expected a sequence);
if (!seq)
return NULL;
here's some more information on the PySequence_Fast API:
http://www.effbot.org/zone/python-capi-sequences.htm
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On 2005-10-08, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My native language is not English so I just wonder how you pronounce
wxPython.
vi-ex python
double-you-ex python
wax-python
The second one.
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On 2005-10-08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've launched a new forum not too long ago, and I invite you all to go
there: www.wizardsolutionsusa.com (click on the forum link). We offer
all kinds of help, and for those of you who just like to talk, there's
a chit chat section
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen wrote:
Don't think so matey.
oh, come on. a site run by some random guy in North Carolina has to be
safer, faster and more reliable than a distributed communication system that
has been around since that guy was born...
Yes, of course, my
there is a MacPerl program posted in 1998 that uses Mac's speech synth
to sing Daisy Bell.
See:
http://bumppo.net/lists/macperl/1998/11/msg00412.html
can anyone modify it so it runs out of the box on today's OS X?
PS i'm posting this also in python and lisp group, i hope it'd be some
general
Jesse Noller wrote:
paraphrased
Once main_list is populated, I want to build a sequence from items
within the lists, randomly with a defined percentage of the sequence
coming for the various lists. For example:
60% from list 1 (main_list[0]), 30% from list 2 (main_list[1]), 10% from list
3
On Saturday 08 October 2005 22:10, Xah Lee wrote:
there is a MacPerl program posted in 1998 that uses Mac's speech synth
to sing Daisy Bell.
See:
http://bumppo.net/lists/macperl/1998/11/msg00412.html
can anyone modify it so it runs out of the box on today's OS X?
PS i'm posting this also
Leave Xah Lee alone, he's a troll, he got no interested in doing
anything but to provoke people on usenet.
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On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:57:13 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gordon
Burditt) wrote or quoted :
HTML enables a heck of a lot of problems: web bugs in email,
links to fake sites that appear as real ones in what shows up
on the screen, Javascript viruses, denial-of-service attacks
(pages that open two
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 09:38:49 +1000, Steven D'Aprano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted :
Yes it is. HTML means that after I've specified my email client use my
favourite font, in the size I like, people send me emails that over-ride
my choice. Invariably they use a font I don't even have.
I
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 09:38:49 +1000, Steven D'Aprano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted :
Even more invariably, they set the point size directly rather than in
relative terms, and they are on Windows, where point sizes are about 20%
oversized.
that is like giving up Java because there was a bug
rbt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Off-topic here, but you've caused me to have a thought... Can hmac be
used on untrusted clients? Clients that may fall into the wrong hands?
How would one handle message verification when one cannot trust the
client? What is there besides hmac? Thanks, rbt
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Simulink is well fitted for small simulators, but when you run into big
projects, I find many shortcomings appears which made the whole thing
next to unusable for our kind of projects.
That's why I'm interested in Python by the way, it is not a simple clone
like Scilab/Scicos. It is a real
Dear Michael Goettsche,
why don't you lead the pack to be on-topic for a change, huh?
Xah
Michael Goettsche wrote:
On Saturday 08 October 2005 22:10, Xah Lee wrote:
there is a MacPerl program posted in 1998 that uses Mac's speech synth
to sing Daisy Bell.
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