Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Alan Gauld via Python-list
On 18/05/2024 19:12, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote: >> So venvs make managing all that pretty convenient. Dunno why everybody's >> so down on venvs... Not so much down on them, they are just one extra step that's mostly not needed(in my use case) > Only people which

venvs vs. package management (was: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited))

2024-05-19 Thread Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
On 2024-05-18 20:12:33 +0200, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote: > On 18/05/2024 20.04, Mats Wichmann wrote: > > So venvs make managing all that pretty convenient. Dunno why everybody's > > so down on venvs... > > Only people which are *not* using python... :-) > &

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-18 Thread Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list
On 18/05/2024 20.04, Mats Wichmann wrote: [...] So venvs make managing all that pretty convenient. Dunno why everybody's so down on venvs... Only people which are *not* using python... :-) In my experience, venvs is the only possible way to use python properly. The dependency nightmare

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-18 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-05-18, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote: > Distros have do offer a good selection of packaged Python bits, yes, but > only for the version of Python that's "native" to that distro release. > If you need to test other versions of Python, you're mostly on your own.

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-18 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 5/18/24 10:48, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: On 2024-05-18, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote: On 2024-05-16 19:46:07 +0100, Gordinator via Python-list wrote: To be fair, the problem is the fact that they use Windows (but I guess Linux users have to deal with venvs, so we're

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-18 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-05-18, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote: > On 2024-05-16 19:46:07 +0100, Gordinator via Python-list wrote: > >> To be fair, the problem is the fact that they use Windows (but I >> guess Linux users have to deal with venvs, so we're even. > > I don't think

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-18 Thread Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
On 2024-05-16 19:46:07 +0100, Gordinator via Python-list wrote: > To be fair, the problem is the fact that they use Windows (but I guess Linux > users have to deal with venvs, so we're even. I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs any more than Windows users. Maybe even less b

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-16 Thread Gordinator via Python-list
On 16/05/2024 01:12, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: On 15 May 2024 10:31:25 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote: We need somethin like a portable curses module (plus colorama) and it has got to work on both Windoze and Linux straight out of the box in standard Python. Something else for Windows Python users

Re: Issues with uninstalling python versions on windows server

2024-05-10 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 5/10/24 03:39, Tripura Seersha via Python-list wrote: Hi Barry, Automation is using the system account using which the installation is failing with exit code 3. This account has the administrative privileges. Please help me with this issue. Thanks, Seersha You probably have a better

Re: Issues with uninstalling python versions on windows server

2024-05-10 Thread Tripura Seersha via Python-list
Hi Barry, Automation is using the system account using which the installation is failing with exit code 3. This account has the administrative privileges. Please help me with this issue. Thanks, Seersha From: Python-list on behalf of Tripura Seersha via

[RELEASE] Python 3.13.0 beta 1 released

2024-05-08 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
After a little bit of excitement discovering new bugs during the release, *it’s done*: 3.13.0 beta 1 is released, the 3.13 branch has been created, and features for 3.13 are frozen! The main branch is now 3.14.0a0. https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3130b1/ *This is a beta preview

Re: Issues with uninstalling python versions on windows server

2024-05-07 Thread Tripura Seersha via Python-list
administrative access for the system and yet fails with exit code 3. Installation is working only when we provide a specific user account in automation. Can you please suggest a resolution for this issue. Also, with the approach of using msiexec.exe to uninstall different components of python

Re: Python Dialogs

2024-05-06 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Tue, 7 May 2024 at 03:42, jak via Python-list wrote: > > Loris Bennett ha scritto: > > r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes: > > > >>Me (indented by 2) and the chatbot (flush left). Lines lengths > 72! > > > > Is there a name for th

Re: Python Dialogs

2024-05-06 Thread jak via Python-list
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Re: Python Dialogs

2024-05-06 Thread jak via Python-list
s != TEXT('\n') && *s != TEXT('\r')) *d++ = *s; } else if(*s == TEXT(' ') || *s == TEXT('\n') || *s == TEXT('\r')) { if(d[-1] != TEXT(' ')) *d++ = TEXT(' '); } else *d++ = *s; } *d = TEXT('\0'); -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Issues with uninstalling python versions on windows server

2024-05-04 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 5/3/24 05:55, Tripura Seersha via Python-list wrote: Hi Team, I am working on an automation related to uninstalling and installing python versions on different windows servers. I have observed that uninstallation is working only with the account/login using which the python version

Re: Python Dialogs

2024-05-04 Thread Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
On 2024-05-02 16:34:38 +0200, Loris Bennett via Python-list wrote: > r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes: > > Me (indented by 2) and the chatbot (flush left). Lines lengths > 72! > > Is there a name for this kind of indentation, i.e. the stuff you are > writing

Re: Issues with uninstalling python versions on windows server

2024-05-03 Thread Barry via Python-list
> On 3 May 2024, at 17:43, Tripura Seersha via Python-list > wrote: > > Hi Team, > > I am working on an automation related to uninstalling and installing python > versions on different windows servers. > > I have observed that uninstallation is working only with

Re: Python Dialogs (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-03 Thread Alan Bawden via Python-list
in (dict(replacements),) for s in re.split("\\b(" + "|".join(re.escape(s[0]) for s in replacements) + ")\\b", text) ) How about just: repl = { "a" : "b", "c" : "d", "e" : "f", "g" : "h", } "".join(repl.get(s, s) for s in re.split(r"\b", text)) - Alan -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Dialogs

2024-05-03 Thread Loris Bennett via Python-list
ation. You seem to use it in all your postings, too, which hurts my brain, but I guess that's my problem :-) [snip (40 lines)] -- This signature is currently under constuction. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Issues with uninstalling python versions on windows server

2024-05-03 Thread Tripura Seersha via Python-list
Hi Team, I am working on an automation related to uninstalling and installing python versions on different windows servers. I have observed that uninstallation is working only with the account/login using which the python version is installed. But for automation, we are not aware which

Changing path to python in pip.exe, ipython.exe, etc

2024-04-25 Thread Olivier B. via Python-list
I am building a python work environment where - i build python from sources - install pip with the wheel bundled with python - then install things with pip, like Jupyter That environment is then deployed on various machines, at various installation folders. One issue I encounter, is the path

ANN: Python Meeting Düsseldorf - 17.04.2024

2024-04-16 Thread eGenix Team via Python-list
/This announcement is in German since it targets a local user group//meeting in Düsseldorf, Germany/ Ankündigung Python Meeting Düsseldorf - April 2024 <https://www.egenix.com/company/news/Python-Meeting-Duesseldorf-2024-04-17> Ein Treffen von Python Enthusiast

Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.12.3 and 3.13.0a6 released

2024-04-10 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer via Python-list
> Mauritius On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 11:18 PM Thomas Wouters via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: > *It’s time to eclipse the Python 3.11.9 release with two releases*, one of > which is the *very last alpha release of Python 3.13*: > < > https://discuss.pytho

[RELEASE] Python 3.12.3 and 3.13.0a6 released

2024-04-09 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
*It’s time to eclipse the Python 3.11.9 release with two releases*, one of which is the *very last alpha release of Python 3.13*: <https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-12-3-and-3-13-0a6-released/50601#python-3123-1>Python 3.12.3 300+ of the finest commits went into this latest maint

Re: Trying to use pyinstaller under python 3.11, and, recently started receiving error message about specific module/distribution

2024-04-04 Thread Jacob Kruger via Python-list
, the folder/directory where all my python source code is stored is set to be case-sensitive - there are a couple of ways to implement this under windows 10 and windows 11, via some external utilities, or by running the following command from a terminal/power-shell window, running

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-04-03 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
in the old days), there was a convention of using var-name like *foo* to indicate it's a dynamic variable. and sometimes **foo** for and %foo% or %%foo%% was used for ... -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-04-03 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
On 3/29/2024 11:21 PM, HenHanna wrote: https://xkcd.com/353/  ( Flying with  Python ) https://xkcd.com/1306/   what does  SIGIL   mean? -- (i got it...Thanks!) Other  xkcd   that you like? my fav. one may be the one about [Bad-ass Hacker] [Nice-ass car

Re: Help Needed With a Python Gaming Module

2024-04-03 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 4/3/2024 3:06 PM, WordWeaver Evangelist via Python-list wrote: Hello everyone! It has been a l-o-n-g time -- nine years in fact --since I last participated on this mailing list. [snip] 3. You are very familiar with the Jython 2 environment, which I am told is based on Python 2

Help Needed With a Python Gaming Module

2024-04-03 Thread WordWeaver Evangelist via Python-list
a number of years later when I left BBSing behind, because I assumed it to be dead. Anyway, just recently I put my BBS back online again for the fourth time since 1993, and I am again endeavoring to write a new python-based external -- a game -- for my BBS. Before I continue, let me inform you

Re: Trying to use pyinstaller under python 3.11, and, recently started receiving error message about specific module/distribution

2024-04-03 Thread Jacob Kruger via Python-list
2024/04/02 17:11, Barry wrote: On 1 Apr 2024, at 15:52, Jacob Kruger via Python-list wrote: Found many, many mentions of errors, with some of the same keywords, but, no resolutions that match my exact issue at all. Try asking the pyinstaller developers. I think there is a mailing li

Re: Making 'compiled' modules work with multiple python versions on Linux

2024-04-02 Thread Barry via Python-list
> On 1 Apr 2024, at 18:14, Left Right via Python-list > wrote: > > It sounds weird that symbols from Limited API are _missing_ (I'd > expect them to be there no matter what library version you link with). You have to specify the version of the limited API that you want to us

Re: Trying to use pyinstaller under python 3.11, and, recently started receiving error message about specific module/distribution

2024-04-02 Thread Barry via Python-list
> On 1 Apr 2024, at 15:52, Jacob Kruger via Python-list > wrote: > > Found many, many mentions of errors, with some of the same keywords, but, no > resolutions that match my exact issue at all. Try asking the pyinstaller developers. I think there is a maili

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-04-01 Thread PA via Python-list
> On Mar 30, 2024, at 22:09, Johanne Fairchild via Python-list > wrote: > > Sigil is noun. Definitions: > > A seal; a signet. > A sign or an image considered magical. > A seal; a signature. Creating Sigils The origin and design process informing Urbit's gener

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-04-01 Thread inhahe via Python-list
On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 1:26 PM HenHanna via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: > Johanne Fairchild wrote: > > > HenHanna writes: > > >> https://xkcd.com/1306/ > >> what does SIGIL mean? > > > A glyph

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-04-01 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
Found in a real dictionary : Camel case , int,char, min, len, def, elseif cons, defun, cond, goto, -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-04-01 Thread Blue-Maned_Hawk via Python-list
u know what you are?” “Confused?” -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-04-01 Thread Johanne Fairchild via Python-list
A seal; a signet. A sign or an image considered magical. A seal; a signature. Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-04-01 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
/1306:_Sigil_Cycle -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-04-01 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
https://xkcd.com/353/ ( Flying with Python ) https://xkcd.com/1306/ what does SIGIL mean? Other xkcd that you like? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Making 'compiled' modules work with multiple python versions on Linux

2024-04-01 Thread Left Right via Python-list
ver looked at again. You, kind of, are already walking into the world of pain trying to make Python binary packages, and then you also want them to be cross-platform, and then you want them to be usable by different versions of Python... Unless it's for your own amusement, I'd just have a package p

Re: Trying to use pyinstaller under python 3.11, and, recently started receiving error message about specific module/distribution

2024-04-01 Thread Jacob Kruger via Python-list
Found many, many mentions of errors, with some of the same keywords, but, no resolutions that match my exact issue at all. As in, most of them are mentioning older versions of python, and, mainly different platforms - mac and linux, but, various google searches have not mentioned much

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-03-31 Thread Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
On 2024-03-31 12:27:34 -0600, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote: > On 3/30/24 10:31, MRAB via Python-list wrote: > > On 2024-03-30 11:25, Skip Montanaro via Python-list wrote: > > > > > https://xkcd.com/1306/ > > > > >   what does 

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-03-31 Thread Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
On 2024-03-30 17:58:08 +, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: > On 30/03/2024 07:04, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote: > > On 30/03/24 7:21 pm, HenHanna wrote: > >> https://xkcd.com/1306/ > >> what does  SIGIL   mean? > > > &

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-03-31 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 3/30/24 10:31, MRAB via Python-list wrote: On 2024-03-30 11:25, Skip Montanaro via Python-list wrote: > https://xkcd.com/1306/ >   what does  SIGIL   mean? I think its' a Perl term, referring to the $/@/# symbols in front of identifiers. I wouldn't co

Re: Trying to use pyinstaller under python 3.11, and, recently started receiving error message about specific module/distribution

2024-03-31 Thread Barry via Python-list
> On 31 Mar 2024, at 13:24, Jacob Kruger via Python-list > wrote: > > pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: The 'altgraph' distribution was not found > and is required by the application I think I have seen this error being discussed before… A web search for pyinstaller and t

Trying to use pyinstaller under python 3.11, and, recently started receiving error message about specific module/distribution

2024-03-31 Thread Jacob Kruger via Python-list
the application # ---end of output--- I have tried completely removing python's installation, and, reinstalling it, but, same issue more or less immediately. If I freeze pip's installed list within this specific virtual environment, it lists the following: altgraph==0.17.4 packaging==24.0

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-03-30 Thread Alan Gauld via Python-list
On 30/03/2024 07:04, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote: > On 30/03/24 7:21 pm, HenHanna wrote: >> https://xkcd.com/1306/ >> what does  SIGIL   mean? > > I think its' a Perl term, referring to the $/@/# symbols in front of > identifiers.

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-03-30 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-03-30 11:25, Skip Montanaro via Python-list wrote: > https://xkcd.com/1306/ > what does SIGIL mean? I think its' a Perl term, referring to the $/@/# symbols in front of identifiers. I had a vague recollection of hearing it elsewhere (*Game of T

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-03-30 Thread Skip Montanaro via Python-list
ags?), but didn't know what it meant. Google tells me: *an inscribed or painted symbol considered to have magical power.* So, they're more than just line noise. They confer power on their users... Perhaps '@' in the context of decorators is the most prominent example in Python, since decorat

Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

2024-03-30 Thread Greg Ewing via Python-list
On 30/03/24 7:21 pm, HenHanna wrote: https://xkcd.com/1306/ what does  SIGIL   mean? I think its' a Perl term, referring to the $/@/# symbols in front of identifiers. -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Making 'compiled' modules work with multiple python versions on Linux

2024-03-29 Thread Barry Scott via Python-list
> On 29 Mar 2024, at 16:09, Olivier B. > wrote: > > It is not a symlink on my system, where i built python myself, but a > 15KB so file. But it seems to lack lots of python symbols. > > Maybe what i should do is actually make libpython.so a physical copy > of libpy

Re: Making 'compiled' modules work with multiple python versions on Linux

2024-03-29 Thread Olivier B. via Python-list
It is not a symlink on my system, where i built python myself, but a 15KB so file. But it seems to lack lots of python symbols. Maybe what i should do is actually make libpython.so a physical copy of libpyton311.so before linking to it, so now on any system the module would look to load

Re: Making 'compiled' modules work with multiple python versions on Linux

2024-03-29 Thread Barry via Python-list
> On 28 Mar 2024, at 16:13, Olivier B. via Python-list > wrote: > > But on Linux, it seems that linking to libpython3.so instead of > libpython3.11.so.1.0 does not have the same effect, and results in > many unresolved python symbols at link time > > Is this func

Making 'compiled' modules work with multiple python versions on Linux

2024-03-28 Thread Olivier B. via Python-list
I have a python module that includes some C++ code that links with the Python C API I have now modified the c++ code so that it only uses the Limited API, and linked with python3.lib instead of python311.lib. I can now use that python module with different python versions on Windows

Re: ANN: EmPy 4.1 -- a powerful, robust and mature templating system for Python

2024-03-25 Thread Barry via Python-list
You should considered also announcing on https://discuss.python.org/ which is a lot more active then this list. Barry > On 25 Mar 2024, at 04:13, Erik Max Francis via Python-list > wrote: > > I'm pleased to announce the release of EmPy 4.1. > > The 4._x_ series

Re: GIL-Removal Project Takes Another Step (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-03-20 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 18:31, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote: > > On 20/03/24 4:14 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > > not to > > mention the latency when there isn’t quite enough memory for an allocation > > and you have to wait until the next GC run to proceed. Run the

Re: GIL-Removal Project Takes Another Step (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-03-20 Thread Greg Ewing via Python-list
works. If you run out of memory, you run a GC there and then. You don't have to wait for GCs to occur on a time schedule. Also, as a previous poster pointed out, GCs are typically scheduled by number of allocations, not by time. -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[RELEASE] Python 3.10.14, 3.9.19, and 3.8.19 is now available

2024-03-19 Thread Łukasz Langa via Python-list
Howdy! Those are the boring security releases that aren’t supposed to bring anything new. But not this time! We do have a bit of news, actually. But first things first: go update your systems! <https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-10-14-3-9-19-and-3-8-19-is-now-available/48993#python-3101

[RELEASE] Python 3.13.0a5 is now available

2024-03-12 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
We’re getting closer and closer… Alpha 5 is here. https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3130a5/ *This is an early developer preview of Python 3.13* Major new features of the 3.13 series, compared to 3.12 Python 3.13 is still in development. This release, 3.13.0a5, is the fifth of six

Re: If a dictionary key has a Python list as its value!

2024-03-07 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 3/7/24 07:11, Varuna Seneviratna via Python-list wrote: If a dictionary key has a Python list as its value, you can read the values one by one in the list using a for-loop like in the following. d = {k: [1,2,3]} for v in d[k]: print(v) No tutorial describes this, why? What

Re: If a dictionary key has a Python list as its value!

2024-03-07 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-03-07 14:11, Varuna Seneviratna via Python-list wrote: If a dictionary key has a Python list as its value, you can read the values one by one in the list using a for-loop like in the following. d = {k: [1,2,3]} for v in d[k]: print(v) No tutorial describes this, why? What

If a dictionary key has a Python list as its value!

2024-03-07 Thread Varuna Seneviratna via Python-list
If a dictionary key has a Python list as its value, you can read the values one by one in the list using a for-loop like in the following. d = {k: [1,2,3]} > for v in d[k]: > print(v) No tutorial describes this, why? What is the Python explanation for this behaviour? Varuna --

Proposed Python Computer Program - Feb. 17, 2024

2024-02-18 Thread Science Researcher via Python-list
PROPOSED PYTHON COMPUTER LANGUAGE PROGRAM - Posted on February 17, 2024 TOPICS Some Background Information Test Post Newsgroups Adding Posting Dates To Newsgroup Notes E-mail Address Other Internet Security Steps Personal Opinion Statements SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION A fair amount

Python Stampede Time? – Feb. 18, 2024

2024-02-18 Thread Science Researcher via Python-list
"Science Researcher" wrote in message news:z4acnqbo6mkf9kz4nz2dnzfqn_edn...@earthlink.com... PROPOSED PYTHON COMPUTER LANGUAGE PROGRAM - Posted on February 17, 2024 PYTHON STAMPEDE TIME ? – Posted on February 18, 2024 Before discussing this specific topic in detail

[RELEASE] Python 3.13.0a4 is now available

2024-02-15 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
It’s time for Python 3.13.0 alpha 4 (now with SPDX SBOM OMG!): https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3130a4/ *This is an early developer preview of Python 3.13* <https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-13-alpha-4/46042#major-new-features-of-the-313-series-compared-to-312-1>Maj

Re: Python misbehavior

2024-02-08 Thread Richard Damon via Python-list
On 2/6/24 10:46 PM, Jim via Python-list wrote: Friends, Please forgive me if this is not the proper forum for dealing with an issue of mine, but I am at a loss in finding a fix for a python problem in the program ClipGrab. The program allows one to download videos or audios from YouTube

Python misbehavior

2024-02-07 Thread Jim via Python-list
Friends, Please forgive me if this is not the proper forum for dealing with an issue of mine, but I am at a loss in finding a fix for a python problem in the program ClipGrab. The program allows one to download videos or audios from YouTube and other media sites. My limited understanding

[RELEASE] Python 3.12.2 and 3.11.8 now available.

2024-02-07 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
*Python 3.12.2 and 3.11.8 are here! *In addition to all the usual bugfixes, these releases contain a small security fix: hidden .pth files are no longer automatically read and executed <https://docs.python.org/release/3.12.2/whatsnew/changelog.html#security> as part of Python startup

Re: Await expressions (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-02-03 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
Funny source code tells me IOCP is used; proactor is only implemented on Windows with IOCP. https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/3.12/Lib/asyncio/proactor_events.py But maybe the focus is more on networking than file system. But it has sock_sendfile() that might avoid copying data

Re: Await expressions (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-02-03 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
, Mild Shock wrote: ... that works on windows ... You lost me there. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Await expressions (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-02-03 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
And whats the roadmap for an asyncified module loader, is this on the radar of Python? Mild Shock schrieb: I am still waiting for async files in the style of nodejs that works on windows and is bundled with the main python distribution. I am not very  fond on doing something like adding

Re: Await expressions (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-02-03 Thread Mild Shock via Python-list
I am still waiting for async files in the style of nodejs that works on windows and is bundled with the main python distribution. I am not very fond on doing something like adding listeners to a file descriptor, in nodejs async files are based on callbacks not on listeners. Whats

Re: Await expressions (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-02-02 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
you had looked that up. > ><https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-awaitable> To be fair, I've been using Python for well over quarter of a century, and I never knew it had a glossary. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Assistance Needed: Corrupted Python Installation Uninstallation Issue

2024-01-29 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 1/29/24 05:19, Syed Hamood via Python-list wrote: Dear Python.org Support Team, I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to seek assistance with an issue I'm encountering while attempting to uninstall a corrupted Python installation on my system. Details of my system: - Operating

Assistance Needed: Corrupted Python Installation Uninstallation Issue

2024-01-29 Thread Syed Hamood via Python-list
Dear Python.org Support Team, I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to seek assistance with an issue I'm encountering while attempting to uninstall a corrupted Python installation on my system. Details of my system: - Operating System: Windows 10 - Python Version: 3.11.3(64-bit

Re: Await expressions (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-01-27 Thread Dieter Maurer via Python-list
Special provisions are necessary to be able to wait for a value (and meanwhile do other things). `asyncio.sleep` has e.g. this provisions and a call of it is an "awaitable". -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Await expressions (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-01-26 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 at 11:01, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote: > > If it helps at all, you can think of an async function as being > very similar to a generator, and "await" as being very similar to > "yield from". In the current implementation they're almost exa

Re: Await expressions (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-01-26 Thread Greg Ewing via Python-list
it helps at all, you can think of an async function as being very similar to a generator, and "await" as being very similar to "yield from". In the current implementation they're almost exactly the same thing underneath. -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-23 Thread Sibylle Koczian via Python-list
Am 17.01.2024 um 19:44 schrieb Mats Wichmann via Python-list: Be interesting to know if your WIndows 10 has those files in place, and it's just a missing path entry (a good thing, perhaps) that's causing it not to be found there. Yes. Python is not on the Path - by design. while the new

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-23 Thread Sibylle Koczian via Python-list
Am 16.01.2024 um 23:44 schrieb Barry via Python-list: On 16 Jan 2024, at 17:11, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: while the new Windows 11 machine finds the Microsoft stub You can turn off the stub in windows settings. The magic windows jargon is “App Execution Aliases”. Once you

Python 3.13.0a3 is now available.

2024-01-17 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
We silently skipped releasing in December (it was too close to the holidays, a lot of people were away) so by date you may have been expecting alpha 4, but instead it’s alpha 3: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3130a3/ *This is an early developer preview of Python 3.13* <ht

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-17 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 1/16/24 10:00, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: Am 15.01.2024 um 23:55 schrieb Mats Wichmann via Python-list: On 1/15/24 12:01, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: On 1/15/2024 1:26 PM, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote: Python from the App Store is not the same as Python from

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-16 Thread Barry via Python-list
> On 16 Jan 2024, at 17:11, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list > wrote: > > while the new Windows 11 machine finds the Microsoft stub You can turn off the stub in windows settings. The magic windows jargon is “App Execution Aliases”. Once you find it in settings you can turn of

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-16 Thread Sibylle Koczian via Python-list
Am 15.01.2024 um 23:55 schrieb Mats Wichmann via Python-list: On 1/15/24 12:01, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: On 1/15/2024 1:26 PM, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote: Python from the App Store is not the same as Python from python.org: yes. this question is about the python.org

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-15 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 1/15/2024 7:24 PM, Thomas Passin wrote: On 1/15/2024 6:27 PM, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote: On 16/01/24 11:55 am, Mats Wichmann wrote: Windows natively has something called python.exe and python3.exe which is interfering here I'm wondering whether py.exe should be taught to recognise

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-15 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 1/15/2024 6:27 PM, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote: On 16/01/24 11:55 am, Mats Wichmann wrote: Windows natively has something called python.exe and python3.exe which is interfering here I'm wondering whether py.exe should be taught to recognise these stubs and ignore them. This sounds

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-15 Thread Greg Ewing via Python-list
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Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-15 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 1/15/24 12:01, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: On 1/15/2024 1:26 PM, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote: On 1/15/24 09:44, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: First and foremost I want to understand why I'm seeing this: - Python scripts with "/usr/bin/env python3" as sh

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-15 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 1/15/2024 1:26 PM, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote: On 1/15/24 09:44, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: First and foremost I want to understand why I'm seeing this: - Python scripts with "/usr/bin/env python3" as shebang line work as expected on a computer with

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-15 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 1/15/24 09:44, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: In the Python documentation for versions 3.11 and 3.12 I found no differences regarding py.exe and shebang lines. Then I removed the "/env" from the shebang lines and could start the scripts from the second computer. That

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-15 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 1/15/24 09:44, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: First and foremost I want to understand why I'm seeing this: - Python scripts with "/usr/bin/env python3" as shebang line work as expected on a computer with Windows 10 and Python 3.11.5. They have worked for years on th

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-15 Thread Sibylle Koczian via Python-list
Am 15.01.2024 um 00:46 schrieb Mike Dewhirst via Python-list: In Windows the provided methods for running complex command lines are either a batch file or a shortcut.Someone very kindly pointed out to me in this thread that there is a PEP for py.exe. I don't use py.exe originally because I

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-14 Thread Mike Dewhirst via Python-list
did read that PEP but it has no relevance for my mixed Windows/Linux environments. On reflection I now believe I won't use py.exe because it introduces an unnecessary layer of indirection.The  bottom line is that you still need to know which Python a particular set of circumstances demands

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-14 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 1/14/2024 8:54 AM, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: On 1/14/2024 7:48 AM, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: Am 09.01.2024 um 12:36 schrieb Barry Scott via Python-list: On 7 Jan 2024, at 15:09, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: Oh, and the two Windows and Python versions

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-14 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 1/14/2024 7:48 AM, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: Am 09.01.2024 um 12:36 schrieb Barry Scott via Python-list: On 7 Jan 2024, at 15:09, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: Oh, and the two Windows and Python versions are on two different computers. Will remove the "

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-14 Thread Sibylle Koczian via Python-list
Am 09.01.2024 um 12:36 schrieb Barry Scott via Python-list: On 7 Jan 2024, at 15:09, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: Oh, and the two Windows and Python versions are on two different computers. Will remove the "/env" from my shebang lines, even if I don't underst

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-09 Thread Barry Scott via Python-list
> On 7 Jan 2024, at 15:09, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list > wrote: > > Oh, and the two Windows and Python versions are on two different computers. > > Will remove the "/env" from my shebang lines, even if I don't understand > what's happening. Thanks for

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-07 Thread Sibylle Koczian via Python-list
Am 01.01.2024 um 12:50 schrieb Barry via Python-list: On 1 Jan 2024, at 11:14, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote: But in all this thread I didn't see a single explanation for my current situation: one and the same shebang line works on Windows 10 / Python 3.11 and doesn't work

Re: Python 3.12.1, Windows 11: shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python3 doesn't work any more

2024-01-03 Thread Barry Scott via Python-list
> On 2 Jan 2024, at 17:24, Thomas Passin via Python-list > wrote: > > You might learn about this if you happen to read and remember the right part > of the Python docs. Otherwise you have no idea what py.exe is up to nor how > it does it. I would say that most people

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