Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:15 AM, Dethe Elza wrote: So still no idea why it's working for you, but not for me. Anything else you can think of? I followed the instructions in the py2app docs for removing old versions of py2app. If everything is encapsulated in the .egg, perhaps I can rever

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Support for live audio I/O via Python on Mac?

2006-10-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On 10/12/06, Jeff Rodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is there a simple, current Python module for controlling the audio > in/out devices on Mac OSX (Python 2.5, OSX 10.4.8, PowerMac at the > moment but Intel is possible), preferably in/out simultaneously? > I've visited the main sites and lists,

[Pythonmac-SIG] Support for live audio I/O via Python on Mac?

2006-10-12 Thread Jeff Rodman
is there a simple, current Python module for controlling the audio in/out devices on Mac OSX (Python 2.5, OSX 10.4.8, PowerMac at the moment but Intel is possible), preferably in/out simultaneously? I've visited the main sites and lists, I think, but not found a basic answer. "audioop"

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Dethe Elza
On 12-Oct-06, at 2:56 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > I have macholib 1.2, modulegraph 0.7.1, altgraph 0.6.8 and py2app > 0.3.5, all fresh checkouts from svn. OK, I now have those versions as well, via easy_install [module]==dev on each one. I had tried building them all from svn the other day,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On Oct 12, 2006, at 11:40 PM, Dethe Elza wrote: On 12-Oct-06, at 2:15 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: What are you using to test? I've tested with the SillyBalls screensaver in PyObjC's examples directory (Examples/Plugins/ SillyBallsSaver). I've been testing with my screensaver, Pastels, but

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Das Keyboard

2006-10-12 Thread Josh Marshall
On 13/10/2006, at 4:02 AM, Perry Smith < wrote: > > I bought a keyboard called Das Keyboard. When I plug it in, the > Mac needs me to hit two keys so it can identify the keyboard. > > Does Python on the Mac have any way to catch this "event" (it may > not be an event actually)? I don't know,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Dethe Elza
On 12-Oct-06, at 2:15 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > What are you using to test? I've tested with the SillyBalls > screensaver in PyObjC's examples directory (Examples/Plugins/ > SillyBallsSaver). I've been testing with my screensaver, Pastels, but I just tried with SillyBalls and it also fail

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On Oct 12, 2006, at 11:06 PM, Dethe Elza wrote: On 12-Oct-06, at 1:44 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: Also if you think that you'll need to hack on py2app at all you'd be better off checking out the source and then "python setup.py develop". That way the egg is your checkout so it's trivial to upd

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Dethe Elza
On 12-Oct-06, at 1:44 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: > Also if you think that you'll need to hack on py2app at all you'd be > better off checking out the source and then "python setup.py develop". > That way the egg is your checkout so it's trivial to update and hack > on. Good advice. I'm still quite

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Dethe Elza
On 12-Oct-06, at 1:33 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>> Could you try again with the latest version of py2app, that is >>> subversion revision 46. Using 'easy_install py2app==dev' should >>> do the trick. >> >> When I try that (after a long time) get a stack trace as follows: > > Why are you usin

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On 10/12/06, Ronald Oussoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 12, 2006, at 7:58 PM, Dethe Elza wrote: > > > On 12-Oct-06, at 10:08 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > > >> Could you try again with the latest version of py2app, that is > >> subversion revision 46. Using 'easy_install py2app==dev' sh

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On Oct 12, 2006, at 7:58 PM, Dethe Elza wrote: On 12-Oct-06, at 10:08 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: Could you try again with the latest version of py2app, that is subversion revision 46. Using 'easy_install py2app==dev' should do the trick. When I try that (after a long time) get a stack tr

[Pythonmac-SIG] Das Keyboard

2006-10-12 Thread Perry Smith
I bought a keyboard called Das Keyboard.  When I plug it in, the Mac needs me to hit two keys so it can identify the keyboard.Does Python on the Mac have any way to catch this "event" (it may not be an event actually)?The other question is for this keyboard, the command and option keys are flipped.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Dethe Elza
On 12-Oct-06, at 10:08 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > Could you try again with the latest version of py2app, that is > subversion revision 46. Using 'easy_install py2app==dev' should do > the trick. When I try that (after a long time) get a stack trace as follows: delza$ easy_install py2app==d

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On Oct 12, 2006, at 7:15 PM, Dethe Elza wrote: On 12-Oct-06, at 9:49 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: plist thing just doesn't happen? Doesn't appear to. The plugin bootstrap is broken. They won't start. So where do I look? This used to work beautifully. Is the plugin bootstrap the __boot__.py

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Dethe Elza
On 12-Oct-06, at 9:49 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: > plist thing just doesn't happen? Doesn't appear to. > The plugin bootstrap is broken. They won't start. So where do I look? This used to work beautifully. Is the plugin bootstrap the __boot__.py file or is it in C or Objective-C? Do we know

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On 10/12/06, Dethe Elza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12-Oct-06, at 9:49 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > > plist thing just doesn't happen? > > Doesn't appear to. I still don't know what you're talking about. > > The plugin bootstrap is broken. They won't start. > > So where do I look? This used t

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On Oct 12, 2006, at 6:49 AM, Dethe Elza wrote: [.. description of a problem ...] When I try to load the above screensaver I get the console messages: 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Users/delza/Library/Screen Savers/PastelsView.saver/ Co

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On 10/12/06, Dethe Elza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12-Oct-06, at 3:01 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > > Plugins are currently broken. This is a known issue... patches > > accepted, I'm not sure when I'll have time to get to it. > > Can you give any more specifics about how it is broken. I'm tryin

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] [Fwd: Re: [Matplotlib-users] Installation Problems on Mac OS X]

2006-10-12 Thread Jacob Rus
Bob Ippolito wrote: > Yes, it is, and there's an example in the py2app sources that does > exactly that.. but it falls apart if you need options or if you have > proxy issues. Additionally, the common use case is "easy_install name" > rather than "easy_install > i_went_through_the_trouble_to_downlo

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Dethe Elza
On 12-Oct-06, at 3:01 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: > Plugins are currently broken. This is a known issue... patches > accepted, I'm not sure when I'll have time to get to it. Can you give any more specifics about how it is broken. I'm trying to write an article about how easy it is to build plugins

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python 2.4.4c1 is released

2006-10-12 Thread Kaweh Kazemi
this is great. thanks. does 2.4.4 include the 2.5 fix for the python launcher (using the script's current directory as the startup directory)? cheers, kaweh On 12.10.2006, at 12:03, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > Hi, > > As some of you might have noticed RC 1 of Python 2.4.4 is available > on pyt

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python 2.4.4c1 is released

2006-10-12 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On Oct 12, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Kaweh Kazemi wrote: this is great. thanks. does 2.4.4 include the 2.5 fix for the python launcher (using the script's current directory as the startup directory)? I didn't rember if I backported that, but yes that fix is included. Ronald smime.p7s Descripti

[Pythonmac-SIG] Python 2.4.4c1 is released

2006-10-12 Thread Ronald Oussoren
Hi, As some of you might have noticed RC 1 of Python 2.4.4 is available on python.org. For the mac the most important changes are inclusion of the new icons (the same as in Python 2.5) and having universal binary support in the official python.org tree (instead of the python24-fat tree at

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] [Fwd: Re: [Matplotlib-users] Installation Problems on Mac OS X]

2006-10-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On 10/11/06, Jacob Rus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Which is why it would be nice to have an "egg handler", no matter how > >> simple. > > > > $ easy_install url_or_path_to_egg > > Wouldn't it be pretty easy to wrap that in an Easy Install.app? Yes, it is, and there's an example in the py2app s

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building plugins with py2app

2006-10-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On 10/11/06, Dethe Elza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm switching to to a recent py2app and moving to use setuptools- > based builds instead of distutils. I've had several problems, but > since I've been coding here and there in spare moments (including on > the bus in the mornings)