On Mon, 09 Oct 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What did you think of mbox to Maildir conversion tools that can be found
on www.qmail.org?
I found them to be very basic and assuming that a given user would only
have one mbox file. I have users that have up to 100 separate mbox files that
are
I am using 2.0.4
1)I altered the default to mail and tried to start the ldap server,It does
not give any errors but it does start either(not in pid list)
2)Also it gives this error now "No objectClass "top" defined in schema"
I did really add real data into the database(using the samples in
3. I am using vpopmail to have all my users virtual. With it you vcan easily
setup a lot of domains on one mashine, it has web administration tool - look
on www.inter7.com
Milen Petrinski
Hello to all, please help me, i'm don't know how to make following
configuration on my system, please
Hello one and all
I have virtually made a complete transition to Gnus and love
it...Thanks to Mr Robin Scary Socha for abusing the crap out of me and
forcing me to get a new mail client!
May I encourage people who have about 10 hours spare over a week (OK I
know it sounds crazy, but thats like
Just to say: "thank you" to the list and to
Chris, Brian and Andy.
Bye and...have a
nice day!
Ciao, Marco
Qmail don't use any of this port (correct me if I wrong), but qmail-tcpd
do. So u may just put that lines in your startup files:
1.
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u qmailr -g nofiles
0 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 21 | /usr/local/bin/multilog \
t /var/log/smtpd
2.
I want use only one password for Win NT and for qmail
(vpopmail).
Ineed some software like checkpassword or vchkpw (in vpopmail), but
it must work with samba to check username and password on domain server (Win
NT)...
Do you have some useful links?
Stano.
My un-Gnus client? Well Mr Brooke...this last week has been an
eventful one to say the least :P Check out my headers now...
I was only joking Mr.Randall :)
And speaking of an evil client, what the hell is up with all those
blank lines UNDER YOUR FRIGGIN NAME!!!
I hit enter a couple of
"Jason Brooke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700
Ah... I see :) And we are talking about un-Gnus clients and screwed
OS's? :P
--
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
qmail Digest 10 Oct 2000 10:00:01 - Issue 1149
Topics (messages 50188 through 50266):
Re: qmail list reply-to
50188 by: Robin S. Socha
50201 by: Russell Nelson
50204 by: Neil Blakey-Milner
50205 by: Vince Vielhaber
50208 by: Brett Randall
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 07:59:51AM +1100, Brett Randall wrote:
Just a little addition to this annoyingly drawn-out thread...
I haven't received any spam at all since I've joined this list...much
impressed considering my past experiences! I am virtually convinced
that the spam people are
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 03:08:42PM -0700, Michael Boyiazis wrote:
if /var/qmail/alias/assign is being used as a forwarding
mechanism, that qmail-getpw is not used and that qmail-local
is the delivery agent.
qmail-local is always the delivery agent. However, it has two mechanisms
it uses to
I'm new in this unix stuff, but i got a job that must be dunn
I need a help here.
I got two server (one is running sendmail(old server) and one is running
qmail).
I need to move all my user in old server to a new one (running qmail).
Can anyone point me what i must do (step by step)
Thanks in
Hi Folks !
I´ve installed qmail successfully. I tried to telnet localhost 25 an I send a
mail to root, but this didn´t find my mail ;-(
Whar do I have to do ? I want to have the mbox format in the ~directories.
But my mail don´t appear in this file. Can you tell me why ?
Thanke you very much
Title: RE: Where are my Mails ? Please !
What do the logs say? :)
-Original Message-
From: Romeo Kienzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 October 2000 9:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Where are my Mails ? Please !
Hi Folks !
I´ve installed qmail successfully.
Hi,
I've just set up Qmail and Ezmlm. Qmail seems
to be working ok but Ezmlm is being abit wierd.
On sending a message to a test mailing list, Qmail
excepts it and passes it to the correct list. After this nothing happens? Ezmlm
does not forward the mailto thesubsrcibes and the mail simply
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 01:21:16PM +0200, Romeo Kienzler wrote:
Hi Folks !
I´ve installed qmail successfully. I tried to telnet localhost 25 an I send a
mail to root, but this didn´t find my mail ;-(
Don't send mail to root. Use another user. (qmail will not deliver any
mail to the user root
Hi everybody,
I have Linux system with qmail and vpopmail
installed, which connects to the Internet throu ppp. I read in "Life with qmail"
that qmail processes every message individualy and I found that remote messages
stay in the queue too long, even worse,it is possible a message
just
have your ppp.up script run:
/bin/kill -ALRM `/sbin/pidof qmail-send`
That
way it'll send the ALRM signal to qmail-send (which triggers qmail to process
the queue) everytime the link comes up.
Tony
-Original Message-From: Milen Petrinski
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent:
Hi guys how are U, am having problems with my qmail, it has been running
stable for the past 8 or so months.However, last week it started perfoming
in wierd way. My users on the mail server are not recieving their mails
infact the mail queue is growing and the deliveries are taking a long time,
I want use only one password for Win NT and for qmail
(vpopmail).
Ineed some software like checkpassword or vchkpw (in vpopmail), but
it must work with samba to check username and password on domain server (Win
NT)...
Do you have some useful links?
Stano.
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Hash: SHA1
On 9 Oct 2000, at 7:32, Stano Paka wrote:
I want use only one password for Win NT and for qmail (vpopmail). I
need some software like checkpassword or vchkpw (in vpopmail), but it
must work with samba to check username and password on domain
Sorry, but this didn't work.
bash: kill: /sbin/pidof qmail-send: no such
pid
But I'll try to find a way to make it work, thak
you anyway
Milen
- Original Message -
From:
Tony Publiski
(tonyp)
To: 'Milen Petrinski' ; qmail mailing
list
Sent:
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 09:59:53AM +0300, Mike Jackson wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What did you think of mbox to Maildir conversion tools that can be found
on www.qmail.org?
I found them to be very basic and assuming that a given user would only
The good
"jim" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's also posted in html on the web.
http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/10/threads.html
Yes, but e-mail addresses in the header are munged. If you include
your e-mail address in your signature, you're on your own. You should
probably
Just for my own 2 cents ..
on your Inbox files in /var/spool/mail . couldn't you do something like
#! /bin/bash
ls /var/spool/mail |
while real line ; do
mbox2maildirprog $line
done
now I haven t tested this but I would think this or a variation thereof
might work well ..
Rick Harris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys how are U, am having problems with my qmail, it has been running
stable for the past 8 or so months.However, last week it started perfoming
in wierd way. My users on the mail server are not recieving their mails
infact the mail queue is growing and the deliveries
"Mark van der Putten" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
my qmail logfiles are filled with only this line over and over again.
--
971017556.174395 warning: trouble opening local/1/18700; will try again later
--
Does anyone know what the problem is
Yes, your queue is corrupt. Stop qmail,
"Michail A.Baikov" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. All UNDELIVERED mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] route to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
control/virtualdomains:
domain1.ru:alias-domain1
~alias/.qmail-domain1-default:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2. User1 have e-mail box on domain2.ru ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but not have
I am trying to setup qmail but I get stuck:
#make setup check
./compile sig_alarm.c
In file included from /usr/include/signal.h:300,
from sig_alarm.c:1:
/usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h:28: asm/sigcontext.h: No such file or
directory
make: *** [sig_alarm.o] Error 1
thanks
Neil
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Neil Grant wrote:
I am trying to setup qmail but I get stuck:
#make setup check
./compile sig_alarm.c
In file included from /usr/include/signal.h:300,
from sig_alarm.c:1:
/usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h:28: asm/sigcontext.h: No such file or
Hello all,
After searching through the docs and the mail list archives I still
can't find a reference to this problem so here it goes:
I'm following the directions from
http://www.redhat.com/mirrors/LDP/HOWTO/Qmail-VMailMgr-Courier-imap-
HOWTO.html to setup Qmail with all the goodies I need
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:37:37 -0300, Pupeno wrote:
and of course the mails stays on the queue without being delivered.
The directory /home/pupeno/Maildir exists:
drwxr-xr-x 2 pupeno pupeno 512 Oct 9 21:19 Maildir/
How did you create the Maildir? Did you use maildirmake? If not, you
Don't send mail to root. Use another user. (qmail will not deliver any
mail to the user root as that would require root permissions, which
would make the process prone to security issues...). Then, show us
the log files of the transaction in question. We may or may not need
the contents of
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:46:05 GMT, wrote:
Hi guys how are U, am having problems with my qmail, it has been running
stable for the past 8 or so months.However, last week it started perfoming
in wierd way. My users on the mail server are not recieving their mails
infact the mail queue is
Charles McLagan writes:
Let's consider the subject dead, since the replies I'm getting are
ones that generally fall into the 'religious' domain and not ones
that actually address the problem I'm trying to solve,
You can't solve the problem as you posed it. That's why the answers
you're
I use Qmail-ldap
and users dont have a directory of their own except for a
/var/qmail/*username*, I was wondering what method I should use to do mailbox
quota.
Scott Sanders
Last week there was much discussion (some of it even on topic :) about
making multilog rotate files on receipt of a signal.
Here's my very simple patch to make multilog rotate its current file
on receipt of SIGHUP. I have tested it under RedHat Linux 6.2 ONLY.
However, as I have used Dan's
Chris Cioffi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
when I run '/etc/rc.d/init.d/svscan start' I get the following:
svscan: warning: unable to stat qmail: file does not exist
The output of "sh -x /etc/rc.d/init.d/svscan start" would be helpful,
but I'd guess that you've got a link in your services directory
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 04:30:24PM -0400, Charles McLagan wrote:
Because, just like with this email, I hit "reply all" and
Microsoft Outlook puts your address and the list address
into the To: field.
Netscape puts your address in To: and the list in Cc: -
same problem.
And it's annoying
hi,
now qmail.org seems to be online again - but you may use one of its mirrors.
e.g.: http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/infosys/mail/qmail/www.qmail.org/top.html
;) a
==
Alexander Jernejcic
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
begin
ROD wrote:
On sending a message to a test mailing list, Qmail excepts it and passes
it to the correct list. After this nothing happens? Ezmlm does not
forward the mail to the subsrcibes and the mail simply disappears. I've
tested posting from the ezmlm user and that works. Also there is
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 10:36:29AM +0200, Stano Pa?ka wrote:
I want use only one password for Win NT and for qmail (vpopmail).
I need some software like checkpassword or vchkpw (in vpopmail), but it must work
with samba to check username and password on domain server (Win NT)...
Do you have
Hi,
Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or Redhat Linux 6.2??
Thank you for your suggestion,
Mark
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:20:22AM +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
# Hi,
#
# Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or Redhat Linux 6.2??
#
# Thank you for your suggestion,
Debian
--
Justin Bell
No.
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:20:22AM +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
Hi,
Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or Redhat Linux 6.2??
Thank you for your suggestion,
Mark
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 03:08:42PM -0700, Michael Boyiazis wrote:
if /var/qmail/alias/assign is being used as a forwarding
mechanism, that qmail-getpw is not used and that qmail-local
is the delivery agent.
qmail-local is always the delivery agent. However, it has two
mechanisms
Should I run qmail under Redhat Linux 7 or Redhat Linux 6.2??
Thank you for your suggestion,
I have one box that I recently moved from RH6.2 to 7.0. There were a few
porting issues that I had to work through. Nothing directly related to
qmail. Some of my scripts for monitoring the
For what it's worth, cafepress.com now offers four new products
which I have made available with the qmail designs. They are: an
ash gray tshirt, a sweat shirt, a long sleeve tshirt and a "Baby
Doll" tshirt.
http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/
Cheers,
Vern
hi,
just works fine with both...
;) a
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Alexander Jernejcic
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I am a Signature, not a Virus!
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-Original
I want to know the easiest and way to setup username/password authenication
with my smtp server. Are there any suggestions? Preferably something
compatible with outlook express' protocol.
Thank you
Brian Pinkney
Hi,
At 15:18 10.10.2000 -0400, Brian Pinkney wrote:
I want to know the easiest and way to setup username/password authenication
with my smtp server. Are there any suggestions? Preferably something
compatible with outlook express' protocol.
SMTP is a host-to-host protocol, not a user-to-user
Hi,
I am using Paul Gregg's checkpasswd and his mkpasswd.pl utility. Somehow, by
some strange luck, I managed to get a user working the first time no
problem, but any new ones I add don't work. It is driving me nuts.
Questions:
The mkpasswd.pl utility asks for a seed, and I just hit enter...is
Brian Pinkney wrote:
I want to know the easiest and way to setup username/password
authenication
with my smtp server. Are there any suggestions? Preferably something
compatible with outlook express' protocol.
Erwin Hoffman wrote:
SMTP is a host-to-host protocol, not a user-to-user
Their are several listed on http://www.qmail.org I use
http://members.elysium.pl/brush/qmail-smtpd-auth/
with no problems.
-Original Message-
From: Brian Pinkney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SMTP authentication
I've been updating our relay rstriction security in
tcpserv but while testing I noted that if I attempted to send a message to
nobody%nobody.com (note the % instead of @) it actually acepts the message but
bounces it back to me with a no local user error...
How do I make it to where it
What
part of a bounced message implies that it has been
delivered?
Addressing something to somebody without an @ is just addressing it to
the local system...
You
addressed it with % (no @)and it was not delivered. Sounds proper to
me.
David
-Original Message-From: James
Nod, it is proper .. Well to my thinking it is
maybe my logic is messed up today.. G But RSS and RBL tests keep
failiing it because it responds back to there test with 250 Ok .. Meaning it
excepted the message. When I test out sendmail and Microsoft's SMTP services
they all deny it and
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 12:59:41PM -0600, Vern Hart wrote:
For what it's worth, cafepress.com now offers four new products
which I have made available with the qmail designs. They are: an
ash gray tshirt, a sweat shirt, a long sleeve tshirt and a "Baby
Doll" tshirt.
Peter van Dijk wrote:
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 12:59:41PM -0600, Vern Hart wrote:
For what it's worth, cafepress.com now offers four new products
which I have made available with the qmail designs. They are: an
ash gray tshirt, a sweat shirt, a long sleeve tshirt and a "Baby
Doll"
Today, Peter van Dijk wrote:
http://vern.com/tshirts/qmail/
I'd go out and borrow somebody's creditcard right now if they were black
instead of white, and a bit cheaper for European customers.
Yeah, I'd prefer a dark color as well (though I've got more than
enough black shirts). But
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 02:36:38PM -0700, James Stevens wrote:
Nod, it is proper .. Well to my thinking it is maybe my logic is messed up today..
G But RSS and RBL tests keep failiing it because it responds back to there test
with 250 Ok .. Meaning it excepted the message. When I test out
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 02:36:38PM -0700, James Stevens wrote:
Nod, it is proper .. Well to my thinking it is maybe my logic is messed up
today.. G But RSS and RBL tests keep failiing it because it responds back
to there test with 250 Ok .. Meaning it excepted the message. When I test out
Hi,
I am new to this list (and to qmail) so please forgive me if this has been
asked before or if it's in the archives and I couldn't find it.
We need to set up a mail server at a client site and I would like to use
qmail (as part of a package called "e-smith") for that job. We need to be
able
Qmail can kick off a mail processing program upon delivery to any address,
easily.
Creating a script to extract attachments and do other things with the
content of a message would be the realm of the programmer assigned to create
the functionality.
The same program that writes the log and
I have a bunch of users @domain.com that have pop3 boxes. If something is
sent to someone at domain.com who has no pop box then I want to provide an
address to which all mail to @domain.com is sent if there is no boxholder
assigned to it. In other words, any @domain.com mail for which there
Can someone point me to a web page that has some explanation of setting up
concurrent running qmails on the same machine and what edits I need to make
to avoid conflicks..
Thanks in advance..
--JT
I dont really see no good point on why you would want to run multiple copies
of qmail...
Or what you would understand by that ??!!??
Goran
-Original Message-
From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:19 AM
To: Qmail
Subject: Running Multiple
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 05:18:30PM -0700, James Stevens wrote:
Can someone point me to a web page that has some explanation of setting up
concurrent running qmails on the same machine and what edits I need to make
to avoid conflicks..
Just compile them using different dirs, and install them
We have found inbound mail to be very disk i/o bound
w/o doing much to the cpu. so we added another disk
and have two instances running. it lets us handle twice
the load.
you need the box to handle 2 IPs;
for the second instance recompile w/ the value in:
/export/home/qmail-1.03/conf-qmail to
Thanks! I was hoping it was that simple...
--JT
- Original Message -
From: "Ricardo Cerqueira" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:22:43AM +0200, Goran Blazic wrote:
# I dont really see no good point on why you would want to run multiple copies
# of qmail...
# Or what you would understand by that ??!!??
#
# Goran
#
comes in really handy when you have a list with 200,000 recipients, and you
Thanks! .. ;)
The machine I'm running qmail on has like a full c block assigned to it and
a RAID5 array so I don't think the disk i/o will be a problem ?? But if
needed I also have a RAID1 Array setup on it with twin 20gigs so I could
place the secound qmail over there but I think the RAID5
You're better off with RAID 0+1. I run RAID 5 on mine and when it runs
through the queue, disk IO is the bottleneck.
-Original Message-
From: James Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:45 PM
To: Michael Boyiazis; Qmail
Subject: Re: Running Multiple
Even on a raid 5 array, I'm sure that the processor will be waiting for the
disk I/O. There is alot of it, after all.
Is it a problem? Naw...
Will it process messages faster with separate disks, and even separate disk
controllers?
I'm bettin it will.
But when it comes down to it, are you
Hrmm Been running qmail for about 5 months now and really haven't
noticed a bottle neck. I know with SendMail (shudder) there were bottle
necks everywhere... But since I installed qmail really haven't ecperienced
any...
--JT
- Original Message -
From: "Austad, Jay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Laugh, ok wheres that Fiber Trunk and gigabit card I ordered?
--JT
- Original Message -
From: "Ihnen, David" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'James Stevens'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Michael Boyiazis"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Qmail" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:48 PM
Subject: RE:
ROFL, ok.. I feel small now ... ... ... ...
--JT
- Original Message -
From: "Austad, Jay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'James Stevens'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: Running Multiple Copies of Qmail on the same server...
Here's what I did:
I have a
I'm going to have to put some QMQP servers in our other data centers to get
more speed out of it. We've got 90Mbit/sec worth of bandwidth at each one
of those, but it'll burst higher.
I noticed that when the messages are broken up into 20,000 rcpt chunks, they
go out way faster than a bunch of
When I try to get my mails via pop3 using qmail-pop3d as follows (on
inetd.conf):
pop3stream tcp nowait root
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup tec-sis.com.ar /usr/local/bin/checkpassword
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir
I get the following error:
-ERR this user has no
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 08:08:03PM -0500, Austad, Jay wrote:
I'm going to have to put some QMQP servers in our other data centers to get
more speed out of it. We've got 90Mbit/sec worth of bandwidth at each one
of those, but it'll burst higher.
I noticed that when the messages are broken
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 05:32:16PM -0700, Barley wrote:
I have a bunch of users @domain.com that have pop3 boxes. If something is
sent to someone at domain.com who has no pop box then I want to provide an
address to which all mail to @domain.com is sent if there is no boxholder
assigned
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 10:41:54PM -0300, Pupeno wrote:
When I try to get my mails via pop3 using qmail-pop3d as follows (on
inetd.conf):
pop3stream tcp nowait root
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup tec-sis.com.ar /usr/local/bin/checkpassword
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir
would you add ash gray long sleeve too?
cheers
wolfgang
Also sprach Vern Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10.10.2000:
For what it's worth, cafepress.com now offers four new products
which I have made available with the qmail designs. They are: an
ash gray tshirt, a sweat shirt, a long sleeve tshirt
Here's the skinny:
I want maildir. I want it for my IMAP Webmail(IMAP frontend) server and
for general purposes.
I need mailbox for my mail client since there's not maildir support.
I'm wondering if anybody has done any of the following:
A: Created a nifty program so that when I try to
I've been trying for days now to remove a second (and no longer used much)
account from this list and am having no luck. Advice appreciated.
- Casey
I notice that your next message is requesting instructions on how to
un-subscribe to the list. Kind of weird to ask detailed questions
like this and then disappear. Makes me wonder what motivated you to
ask the questions. However, just in case you're serious
Here's the skinny:
I want
Thus said "James Stevens" on Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:38:01 PDT:
list at a time without a queue delay Right now 'Majordomo' funnels all
messages into qmail via qmail-send and anything that gets queued after that
has to wait for the current queue to get done. To get around this I plan on
The queues aren't bad now, we're pretty good about prompty removing any
addresses that are bad, and total garbage emails don't even get subscribed
to the list.
Doesn't really matter if we lose a queue. I did play with memory
filesystems a couple of months ago, and I got worse performance on
Okay, so does anybody know of a "real" MUA that is X-enhanced?
Sorry, but "pretty" is more of a concern to me than "works
properly in strange situations". I would prefer "not outright
broken" and "not vaporware", though.
-mike
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Adam McKenna wrote:
Not using microshaft
Mike Glover [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Okay, so does anybody know of a "real" MUA that is X-enhanced?
Sorry, but "pretty" is more of a concern to me than "works
properly in strange situations". I would prefer "not outright
broken" and "not vaporware", though.
-mike
Under X? Try
Title: Q-Mail SMTP logging
I know that the topic of SMTP logging has been flogged to death before, and I don't want to start another discussion on it. However, is there anyone out there that HAS written a patch to qmail-smtpd to log any errors, (actually, any response other than normal) to
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