Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-18 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Dave wrote: Hi Erik, We're here about the QmailToaster Project. Don't get me wrong, this community always goes above and beyond to help out a straggled user, but come on . . . My apologies if anyone is offended. No offense taken The impressive amount of customization and

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Erik Espinoza
Might want to check out the wiki. There are a ton of scripts that you can use to keep the QT up to date. ES and JV have done some great work on keeping the QmailToaster up to date. Due to licensing restrictions, we aren't allowed to give out binary updates, so no yum. The wiki has an faq entry

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Dave
What exactly are the licensing issues that prevent qmail from simply being folded in to the CentOS or Ubuntu disrabutions? I'm a little uneasy running a sevrer that requires a kludge to keep automatically up to date. Also, the QM Toaster kit seems to force the use of PHP and MySQL. (... Both

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Steve Huff
On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Dave wrote: What exactly are the licensing issues that prevent qmail from simply being folded in to the CentOS or Ubuntu disrabutions? http://cr.yp.to/distributors.html -steve -- If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Dave
What exactly are the licensing issues that prevent qmail from simply being folded in to the CentOS or Ubuntu disrabutions? http://cr.yp.to/distributors.html Yeah... I saw that, but I am not sure what the implications of that are Seemingly you could distribute a binary image...

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Steve Huff
On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:30 AM, Dave wrote: http://cr.yp.to/distributors.html Yeah... I saw that, but I am not sure what the implications of that are Seemingly you could distribute a binary image... right? no; you may not distribute a binary image, you must distribute exactly the

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Dave wrote: What exactly are the licensing issues that prevent qmail from simply being folded in to the CentOS or Ubuntu disrabutions? Steve has this right in his reply, TTBOMK. I'm a little uneasy running a sevrer that requires a kludge to keep automatically up to date. I'm the same way,

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Jake Vickers
Dave wrote: What exactly are the licensing issues that prevent qmail from simply being folded in to the CentOS or Ubuntu disrabutions? I'm a little uneasy running a sevrer that requires a kludge to keep automatically up to date. Also, the QM Toaster kit seems to force the use of PHP and MySQL.

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Dave
Thank you for the explanation... :) I do have some specific config questions, but I'll read through the wiki first. Also, is there a basic post-install walk through that shows how to configure things like log rotation, mailbox quotas, auto-updates of signatures, etc... plus what ever else is

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Jake Vickers
Dave wrote: Thank you for the explanation... :) I do have some specific config questions, but I'll read through the wiki first. Also, is there a basic post-install walk through that shows how to configure things like log rotation, mailbox quotas, auto-updates of signatures, etc... plus what

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Dave
Thanks for pointers Perhaps there should be a post install guide section on the wiki? -- David --- Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave wrote: Thank you for the explanation... :) I do have some specific config questions, but I'll read through the wiki first. Also, is

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Jake Vickers
Dave wrote: Thanks for pointers Perhaps there should be a post install guide section on the wiki? No reason there can't be. I just can't think of what to put in it. Do you have any suggestions to help us get started? Thanks. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Eric \Shubes\
That would be great! Care to write one? Dave wrote: Thanks for pointers Perhaps there should be a post install guide section on the wiki? -- David --- Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave wrote: Thank you for the explanation... :) I do have some specific config

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Jake Vickers wrote: Dave wrote: Thanks for pointers Perhaps there should be a post install guide section on the wiki? No reason there can't be. I just can't think of what to put in it. Do you have any suggestions to help us get started? Thanks. Aw, cm'on Jake. ;) I'd start with

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Dave
No reason there can't be. I just can't think of what to put in it. Do you have any suggestions to help us get started? Thanks. Hmm As a new user, I guess even after the install guides, I would still view the system as a fresh OS-esque install Given that most users are

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Erik Espinoza
Hi Dave, There are projects about Network ACL's (IPTables), System backups (Amanda), Daemon Lockdowns (Bastille) and so on. In addition there are plenty of books on the subject matter. That said I mean absolutely no offense to anyone by this next comment. This community isn't here to teach you

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Dave
Hi Erik, We're here about the QmailToaster Project. Don't get me wrong, this community always goes above and beyond to help out a straggled user, but come on . . . My apologies if anyone is offended. No offense taken The impressive amount of customization and packaging effort

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Erik Espinoza
For that we have the QmailToaster Virtual Appliance for VMware Server/Player/Workstation. :) Erik On 1/17/07, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Erik, We're here about the QmailToaster Project. Don't get me wrong, this community always goes above and beyond to help out a straggled user,

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-16 Thread Dave Q.T. Newbiw
Hi Erik, Thanks for the reply... What size VM, memory-wise, does QM Toaster need? Is 96MB enough? In anticipation of the fact the that over the next few years _some_ bug/security issues will be found, how exactly does the auto update process work? Is everything updated, or just the base

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-16 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Dave Q.T. Newbiw wrote: Hi Erik, Thanks for the reply... What size VM, memory-wise, does QM Toaster need? Is 96MB enough? That should probably be enough if you're not scanning (clamav, spamassassin). I'm running a full blown toaster for a small office on an old PII/266 w/154M ram, and it

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-16 Thread Al Adcock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mine's a dual PII 233 box with 128 meg of ram and a couple of 250Gb IDE drives. CentOS minimum install (using the super easy install script). I've got 12 users in our small office. I also use the box to host our intranet (with quite a few MySQL

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-16 Thread Dave Q.T. Newbiw
Thanks to all for the advice. :) - Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA.

[qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-15 Thread Dave Q.T. Newbiw
Hello, I am hoping you folks on the list could advise me on this... Can QM Toaster be used to turn a default CentOS install into a very basic POP3/IMAP/SMTP email server? Our current ISP where we host ~15 domains and ~25+ email accounts has a mandatory incoming auto-discard spam filter that

Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-15 Thread Erik Espinoza
Hello Dave Can QM Toaster be used to turn a default CentOS install into a very basic POP3/IMAP/SMTP email server? It's a lot more than basic, as it comes with antivirus, antispam, domainkeys, spf and srs. I'd call it thorough rather than basic. Our current ISP where we host ~15 domains and