be a para and not a quad.
Stacy
- Original Message -
From: David K. Kelmer
To: Stacy Harim ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; Greg
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:14
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
Frustration/sensitive
Dave,
I know that I'm paralyzed and I accept the fact that I am. I know what I can do and I know what I
cannot do from experience. When I
first got injured I figured I could still do just about everything I did before
but I learned quickly how vulnerable I was and what being paralyzed
ra's that knows what it's like to be a quad so I could never see all paralysis as the same. I know that I am damn lucky to be a para and not a quad.
Stacy
- Original Message -
From: David K. Kelmer
To: Stacy Harim ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; Greg
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 20
s that knows what it's like to be a quad so I could never see all paralysis as the same. I know that I am damn lucky to be a para and not a quad.
Stacy
- Original Message -
From: David K. Kelmer
To: Stacy Harim ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; Greg
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:14 PM
S
ll paralysis as the same. I know that I
am damn lucky to be a para and not a quad.
Stacy
- Original Message -
From: David K. Kelmer
To: Stacy Harim ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; Greg
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:14
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
Frustra
I found this particular poem to be very insightful and often apropos of many of the situations which I face. It is by Lloyd Saposnek
LOOK AT ME
What do you think when you look at me
Is it only a wheelchair that you see
Is he normal or is he not
What kind of disability has he got
I have a brain,
rprise you as it did me!
On or off line. At least the internet has oodles of people to talk to for those who are lonely.
Lori
---Original Message---
From: Stacy Harim
Date: 01/10/05 14:21:44
To: Lori Michaelson; Quad
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
I even went that r
y legs is sexy and I just think that is weird. I don't want
someone to want me because of this chair I want someone to want me in spite of
it.
Stacy
- Original Message -
From: Lori Michaelson
To: Quad
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:03
PM
Subject: Re: [QU
our always
understanding. Probably one of the most understanding on this list.
Stacy
- Original Message -
From: David K. Kelmer
To: Stacy Harim ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; Greg
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 1:04
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
Frustration/sensitive
Hi Stacy,
I th
s turning into venting, so I will stop.take care,
Dana and ?
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- Original Message -
From: "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "quadlist" <quad-list@eskimo.com>; "Dana Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, Ja
-
From: "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "quadlist" ; "Dana Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
In my situation, my self esteem is good. I know that I am a good
lmer
To: Stacy Harim ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; Greg
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
Hi Stacy,
I would think that in the aspect of getting looked at as a sexual being, maybe to the AB of the opposite sex, paralyzed is paralyzed, but I don't
al Message -
From: David K. Kelmer
To: Stacy Harim ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; Greg
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:14
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
Frustration/sensitive
Hi Stacy,
I would think that in the aspect of getting looked at as a sexual being,
maybe to the
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
I live in Maryland. I wish maybe I had the spark you do, but I talk
with anyone and everyone. I'm the one that people have to pull away when
they are ready to leave because I am talking. I think that I am an
attractive person, have a great
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
Frustration/sensitive
Thats a good introspective concern! I had not really
thought of it in that way--at least not to that extent. I know my
self asteem is not that good, my eye contact either. I need to
re-learn how to flirt! I used to be very good a
at you can still get women, but that's you and you are a rare case it seems after talking to others on the list.
Stacy
- Original Message -
From: Houston809
To: Stacy Harim ; quadlist ; Greg
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
Stacy
This is how the Asexual Visibility and Education Network (AVEN) defines it:
http://www.asexuality.org/Theory/ranges.htm
I hope this helps.
With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA Dana Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi, having only read part of this thread and
g is just as hard for para's to face. To the opposite sex paralyzed is paralyzed.
Stacy
- Original Message -
From: Greg
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
That statement shouldn't hurt anyone. It
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
Stacy,
I don’t know how each situation is. And maybe it is a little bit easier 4 me 2 get a woman. But until I get over my insecurities I’ll not be able 2 keep 1 :) Tony is DA MAN with women :) Maybe he can give us all pointers :) I have a gift of GAB
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
Jim you are doing great. But control is not as easy 4 everyone. :)
On 1/9/05 1:20 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I was always taught by my parents never to stare at people with disabilities or that were different t
age -
From: "Houston809" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dana Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "quadlist"
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
Here's something I got of a cite I don't totally agree but you
quot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "quadlist"
; "Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
Stacy,
I¹m not thinking that it¹s really that difficul
I was always taught by my parents never to stare at people with
disabilities or that were different than I was. Even though I didn't find
myself staring at times which, I still do on occasion, I never gave it any
thought about their sex life. Now, being one of the people, I
understand the
Lori Michaelson
To: Quad
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:37
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
Frustration/sensitive
Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That statement
shouldn't hurt anyone. It's true... Paras
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
Well Houston, I guess you are just different than some of us and
women are drawn to you, however it's not that way with me and I am sure others
here can tell you the same. I have said it so many times, but I'll say it
again. I think I
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
I was only a quad for a short time but when I was, I said "I'll be ok if I
could only just use my arms. Now I can as a para and want to walk.
It's human nature to always want more.
Stacy
- Original Message -
From: H
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
Here's something I got of a cite I don't totally agree but you can put it in a search engine and research.
Am I Asexual?
Ranges of Asexuality
"Am I Asexual" is one of the most common questions asked here on AVEN, and it is not on
one who would volunteer to break their spine a few levels higher.Greg
From: Houston809
Date: 01/08/05 17:11:53
To: Greg; quadlist
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
Greg you are so correct. Because when I think about a cure for SCI I just want to be a little better than I am now. Inste
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
Stacy,
I’m not thinking that it’s really that difficult 2 find a person that’ll be there in a meaningful relationship. I have some problems but some of them it’s more me than them. So don’t think that I’m going against anything I’ve said. But I know
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
Greg you are so correct. Because when I think about a cure for SCI I just want to be a little better than I am now. Instead of C/6 C/7 I want to be a low level para :) just let me be totally independent without having to wait on an aid.
On 1/8/05 12:20
If I'm correct Dana I think it means non-sexual.
Mark
---Original Message---
From: Dana Miller
Date: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:41:21 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
Hi, having only read part of this t
ed'
the mood! take care,
Dana and ?
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From: "QuadPirate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 5:03 P
paralyzed.
Stacy
- Original Message -
From: Greg
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:20
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
Frustration/sensitive
That statement shouldn't hurt anyone. It's true... Paras
have it easier than quads. Just like
That statement shouldn't hurt anyone. It's true... Paras have
it easier than quads. Just like a C5 like me has it easier than a C4. The more
moement you have, the more you can do for yourself. If it's not a fact, than
show me someone who would volunteer to break their spine a few levels
hig
ED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 6:56
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
Frustration/sensitive
In a message dated 1/7/2005 6:04:00 PM
Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Stacy I wasn't implying that para's have it easier I was
just s
In a message dated 1/7/2005 6:04:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Stacy I wasn't implying that para's have it easier I was just saying if I had a good "Grip" I could help myself!
It was a joke, just trying to relieve this tension oops there I go again being funny!
...i w
Original Message---
From: Stacy Harim
Date: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:25:01 PM
To: QuadPirate; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
It seems that us para's have just of a hard time getting a da
o.com
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 2:05
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
Frustration/sensitive
That's funny Houston this is the first I've heard of a-sexual in my
5 short years as a quad.
It does seem to me that a para would have a better sex lif
hat you and Mark said I am starting to believe people thing we are asexual.
Stacy
- Original Message -
From: andrea murray
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
He Stacy, What is the definition of being a lo
ssing this sensitive issue.
Mark
---Original Message---
From: Houston809
Date: Thursday, January 06, 2005 6:13:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; andrea murray; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: quadlist
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
MarkLike when I was in Partners
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
Frustration/sensitive
He Stacy, What is the definition of
being a lover when it involves Quad 's and Par's. I have been asking this
question ever since I was n Rab. Men say that they only wint to be friends not
lovers. Can anyone anwser this o
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
Mark
Like when I was in Partners class a few yrs back. Was the 1st time that I’d heard A-sexual which I had to ask the meaning of it 2 be sure. Now my cousin that’s a Para which was pretty much 1 of few people with a disability that I was in contact
In a message dated 06/01/2005 18:38:44 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hey Stacy,
I've come to the conclusion that people just don't think we're even
interested in a relationship.
Nobody thinks I'm interested in a sex life so no need for a
relationship in their eyes.
He Stacy, What is the definition of being a lover when it involves Quad 's and Par's. I have been asking this question ever since I was n Rab. Men say that they only wint to be friends not lovers. Can anyone anwser this old age question.
Wheelcheel WarriorQuadPirate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ay, January 05, 2005 4:33:41 PM
To: Stacy Harim; andrea murray; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: quadlist
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
StacySo I guess that I even put my costume on with you all also. But at timez I even fool myself :) as 2 my real feelings.Houston On 1/4/05 9:10 PM, "Stacy
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
Stacy
So I guess that I even put my costume on with you all also. But at timez I even fool myself :) as 2 my real feelings.
Houston
On 1/4/05 9:10 PM, "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Houston,
I'm glad you said wha
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive
I’m still a big flirt :) I think it’s just part of me and my image/defense mechanism. :)
On 1/5/05 12:25 AM, "THouston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ditto Houston
I used to be very aggressive b/4 now I'm very passive. Any little l
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Cc: quadlist
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 1:49
PM
Subject: [QUAD-L]
Frustration/sensitive
Andrea,Were you referring 2 any quad men that I
know? :) Some of us quad men dont know how 2 read signs anymore & since
we have the reverse situations with women
Title: Frustration/sensitive
Houston,
I'm glad you said what you said, because I portrayed you as someone who
seems to get women a lot. I don't know why. Maybe just because you
speak with so much confidence. I also do what you do. I am strong
around people and they would never in a mil
Title: Frustration/sensitive
Andrea,
Were you referring 2 any quad men that I know? :) Some of us quad men don’t know how 2 read signs anymore & since we have the reverse situations with women we are a little hesitant of our advances. Rejection hurts a lot more now than it did prior 2 SCI ... I
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