[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com

2009-08-29 Thread RonLau
Steve, Just got a Della Santa, great road bike. If you order one, you can ask for anything you want. However, this is a Rodeo thread so I am not say anything more about his work. If anyone is interested, google him and you can see what kind of work he has done. For example, he build Rivendell

[RBW] Re: My New Bleriot

2009-08-29 Thread RoadieRyan
Gorgeous build I am sure it will be alot of fun to ride. You're lucky to find a shop that still has this frame in stock. One of my Local LBS has a couple left and they want $1000 for the frameset. Happy trails enjoy that Bleriot! On Aug 29, 10:14 pm, Mike wrote: > Really nice build. Looks rea

[RBW] Re: My New Bleriot

2009-08-29 Thread Mike
Really nice build. Looks ready to be put to good use. I'm sure it won't disappoint you. Enjoy. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > > My one skinny-tire bike (an early 80s pink Univega) has 700x25 Conti > Gatorskins (which I doubt would fare well in Heine's tests), and it is > plenty faster than my other bikes with fatter tires. It is also > lighter than m

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com

2009-08-29 Thread Doug Van Cleve
Additional fuel for the fire: nice alloy quill stems, like Nittos, will get marked up over time. So if you lower your high stem, then raise it back up some time later, the quill will probably have picked up some marks that will now show... Doug On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Bill M. wrote:

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com

2009-08-29 Thread Bill M.
I don't think the 1 " vs. 1-1/8" question has been answered adequately. 1-1/8" steerers are an accomodation for carbon steerers. A 1" steel steerer is and has always been plenty strong, so 1-1/8" would add needless weight to the frame and fork. There are 1" carbon steerers out there, but I woul

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
My one skinny-tire bike (an early 80s pink Univega) has 700x25 Conti Gatorskins (which I doubt would fare well in Heine's tests), and it is plenty faster than my other bikes with fatter tires. It is also lighter than my other bikes, partly because it has skinny tires. It turns out that, in many wa

[RBW] Re: WTT: Quickbeam 175 crank arms for 170 crank arms

2009-08-29 Thread Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
Hey Dave, I forgot to mention on the phone that I actually have the original 170mm crank arms. I loaned them to a friend to try out on an old fixer-upper, but he said they weren't quite right. I can send them with the new canti brakes ... but I would like to have the 175mm cranks back. Thanks

[RBW] Re: My New Bleriot

2009-08-29 Thread Johnny Alien
I see what you mean. I have always had standard drops like that. I keep meaning to try a set of Noodles but old habits dies hard :) On Aug 29, 6:23 pm, Bruce wrote: > The noodle or dream bars give that flat landing area for your hands just > behind the hoods. Your drops are racier and are set

[RBW] Re: My New Bleriot

2009-08-29 Thread Bruce
The noodle or dream bars give that flat landing area for your hands just behind the hoods. Your drops are racier and are set up in a more old fashioned way. They look good, I'm just used to seeing the others and my own bikes have the flat spaces for hand comfort.

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 16:42 -0500, Bill Connell wrote: > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:19 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > > On the roads around these parts, the two times that I consistently either > > gain distance upon or catch up with folks on the Race Modeled Road Bikes > > (RMRB) is when we hit uneven p

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread Bill Connell
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:19 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > On the roads around these parts, the two times that I consistently either > gain  distance upon or catch up with folks on the Race Modeled Road Bikes > (RMRB) is when we hit uneven pavement (well, that and descending).  They > look at the Jack B

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com

2009-08-29 Thread David Estes
I don't know if they sell them unpainted, but there sure are a lot of builders out there showing them off: http://www.flickr.com/groups/unpainted/ On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Phil Brown wrote: > > > > On Aug 28, 2:46 pm, Bill Connell wrote: > The best option is > > probably to get an unpa

[RBW] Re: My New Bleriot

2009-08-29 Thread Derek Simmons
Love the twine treatment on the kickstand. On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Bruce wrote: > Very good looking bike. Interesting choice of handlebars for this bike. > > -- > *From:* Johnny Alien > *To:* RBW Owners Bunch > *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:15:06 PM >

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 14:34 -0700, CycloFiend wrote: > By which term (though it did make me think of the Hansen brothers' "Old Time > Hockey!" cry) he meant my Silver Barends. He literally didn't think they > worked, and that I was running them for some sort of statement. > > I tried to impress

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread CycloFiend
I'll add one more observation about shifters to this thread. A number of weeks ago, I was riding home. A guy in team-derivative kit on a MCRB caught up to me and we chatted a bit. He complemented the Hilsen, then asked what year it was. I thought for a second, then replied, "It's an aught-eig

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 14:19 -0700, CycloFiend wrote: > I think that's starting to change. I've had a couple conversations with > folks when I'm out on the Hilsen, rolling along fat and happy on my 32/33's > while they clatter and bang away on 23's. There have been some articles in > the race cr

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/29/09 7:54 AM, Tim McNamara at tim...@bitstream.net wrote: > > > On Aug 29, 2009, at 6:06 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: > >> Admittedly, I know very little about club racing dynamics, but I >> expect the majority of people who buy the Roadeo will never use tires >> wider than a 28. At least no

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com

2009-08-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 09:45 -0700, Phil Brown wrote: > > > On Aug 28, 2:46 pm, Bill Connell wrote: > The best option is > > probably to get an unpainted frame and have a local framebuilder swap > > out the mounts for you.-- > > Bill Connell > > St. Paul, MN > > Sorry, no frame builder in his

[RBW] Re: My New Bleriot

2009-08-29 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/29/09 12:15 PM, Johnny Alien at johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: > Got this Bleriot frame from "The Country Bike Shop" in Ohio. (Great > service and highly recommended BTW) Nitto drops, Tech Deluxe stem, MKS > Sneaker pedals, Brooks B-17 narrow, Panaracer Col de la Vie tires, > tektro brakes,

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com

2009-08-29 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/29/09 11:01 AM, Big Paulie at pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote: > Not having a deep background in bikes, I'm wondering what the pratical > differences are between the threaded and threadless options. AASHTA - http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_ha-i.html#headset http://www.sheldonbrown.com/headset

[RBW] Re: Cleaning House

2009-08-29 Thread Aili
Grip Kings and cranks are claimed! Thanks! On Aug 28, 12:23 pm, Aili wrote: > Hello, > > I'm cleaning house, and then moving to a smaller one so stuff has to > go! > > Grip King Pedals - $30 Shipped > Nearly new, no major scrapes. A little dirt, but I'll tidy them up. > > Paul Canti Levers - $6

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:26 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: > >> Club riders will generally be using 700 x 23. Frequently smaller. >> At 120 PSI. It's just a fact of life in racing clubs. This is >> target market that does not think like people who use 35 mm tires, >> tweed bags and high bars. If you

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com

2009-08-29 Thread Big Paulie
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[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com

2009-08-29 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/29/09 9:45 AM, Phil Brown at philcyc...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Aug 28, 2:46 pm, Bill Connell wrote: > The best option is >> probably to get an unpainted frame and have a local framebuilder swap >> out the mounts for you.-- >> Bill Connell >> St. Paul, MN > > Sorry, no frame builder

[RBW] Re: My New Bleriot

2009-08-29 Thread Johnny Alien
They are just the standard run if the mill Nitto drops. Nothing really unusual about them. Out of curiosity why do you say it's an odd choice? On Aug 29, 4:10 pm, Bruce wrote: > Very good looking bike. Interesting choice of handlebars for this bike. --~--~-~--~~~--

[RBW] Re: My New Bleriot

2009-08-29 Thread David Estes
Love Bleriots. Wish they were still available via QBP. Seemed like a great way to get more people on 'em. On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Bruce wrote: > Very good looking bike. Interesting choice of handlebars for this bike. > > -- > *From:* Johnny Alien > *To:* R

[RBW] Re: My New Bleriot

2009-08-29 Thread Bruce
Very good looking bike. Interesting choice of handlebars for this bike. From: Johnny Alien To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:15:06 PM Subject: [RBW] My New Bleriot Got this Bleriot frame from "The Country Bike Shop" in Ohio. (Great serv

[RBW] Re: Cleaning House

2009-08-29 Thread Aili
Hello all, The Paul levers, Grip Kings, and Sugino Cranks are spoken for. Thanks! -Aili On Aug 28, 12:23 pm, Aili wrote: > Hello, > > I'm cleaning house, and then moving to a smaller one so stuff has to > go! > > Grip King Pedals - $30 Shipped > Nearly new, no major scrapes. A little dirt, but

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com

2009-08-29 Thread Phil Brown
On Aug 28, 2:46 pm, Bill Connell wrote: The best option is > probably to get an unpainted frame and have a local framebuilder swap > out the mounts for you.-- > Bill Connell > St. Paul, MN Sorry, no frame builder in his right mind will sell you an unpainted frame. 95% of what people think a "

[RBW] Re: Retouching a touch up

2009-08-29 Thread charlie
Tim is right onjust some paste wax for cars (Johnson) or (Turtle wax) or you could use the liquid stuff, "Dupont rain dance" brand comes to mind.. It keeps your bike looking spiffy and applying it is a good time to inspect for cracks or other potential damage to the frame or parts. I've fo

[RBW] My New Bleriot

2009-08-29 Thread Johnny Alien
Got this Bleriot frame from "The Country Bike Shop" in Ohio. (Great service and highly recommended BTW) Nitto drops, Tech Deluxe stem, MKS Sneaker pedals, Brooks B-17 narrow, Panaracer Col de la Vie tires, tektro brakes, shimano bar ends, Sugino crank, Deore derailler and hubs. Just got it compl

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com

2009-08-29 Thread Doug Van Cleve
Hey Paul. IMHO the practical differences between quill and threadless are pretty minimal as long as the steerer isn't cut too short on a threadless bike. The reason to go with 1" threadless is so that the frame can be the same. 1" is the normal quill fork diameter and it is easy to get a shim that

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 09:54 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: > > Club riders will generally be using 700 x 23. Frequently smaller. > At 120 PSI. It's just a fact of life in racing clubs. This is > target market that does not think like people who use 35 mm tires, > tweed bags and high bars.

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com

2009-08-29 Thread Big Paulie
Can I go of on a tangent relative to the Roadeo? Not having a deep background in bikes, I'm wondering what the pratical differences are between the threaded and threadless options. And, why is the threadless option 1", rather than the more common 1 1/8"? Thanks, Paul --~--~-~--~~--

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread cm
DT's on a bike designed for club rides is kinda laughable-- not that there is anything wrong with them, just that NO ONE on any club ride that i have ever done or seen uses them. Lots of club riders today have never even ridden DT's. I have only ridden with them once and hated it-- what a dumb pla

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread Garth
Oh ... the irony. DT shifters is likely a design decision, it's not as if there's a shortage of DT shifters bosses is there? The Irony is . . . why does the Waterford made Bomabadil have DT shift bosses? . This kind of stops the thinking for a minute. Who's gonna use DT shifters on

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread Bill Connell
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:26 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: > >> Club riders will generally be using 700 x 23.  Frequently smaller. >> At 120 PSI.  It's just a fact of life in racing clubs.  This is >> target market that does not think like people who use 35 mm tires, >> tweed bags and high bars.  If yo

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread JoelMatthews
> Club riders will generally be using 700 x 23. Frequently smaller. > At 120 PSI. It's just a fact of life in racing clubs. This is > target market that does not think like people who use 35 mm tires, > tweed bags and high bars. If you don't know anything about club > racing, you won't be able

[RBW] Re: Riv Road for sale price question.

2009-08-29 Thread Esteban
Why not offer it here before going to eBay? On Aug 29, 4:52 am, Neil wrote: > If you have the energy, parting it out and selling everything > separately may yield more. The TA cranks may get a good chunk from > people ho otherwise are not interested in the bike. Same with Chorus, > especially if

[RBW] Re: Retouching a touch up

2009-08-29 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 29, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Steve Wimberg wrote: > Charlie, what type of wax are you talking about? I must plead > ignorance! Is applying it simply a matter of melting and brushing it > over the nicks? The stuff you wax your car with. Not beeswax. --~--~-~--~~~-

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 29, 2009, at 6:06 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: > Admittedly, I know very little about club racing dynamics, but I > expect the majority of people who buy the Roadeo will never use tires > wider than a 28. At least not when they are with the guys and gals at > the club. Brifters or no, the bi

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com

2009-08-29 Thread James Valiensi
Hi, The cable stops that the prototype has are brazed on the DT. To do shifter mounts instead will be no more work or time for the frame builder. IF you can get the frame with custom paint, I don't see why you couldn't ask for DT shifters as well. I'll bet the reason Waterford does not show

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com

2009-08-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Doug Van Cleve wrote: > Howdy folks. > > Three things about this thread are jumping out at me. Other than both > being steel road bikes, there isn't much similarity between the Pacer and > the Roadeo (no offense intended to Seth :^). I am 99% sure the Roadeo wil

[RBW] Re: Retouching a touch up

2009-08-29 Thread Steve Wimberg
Thanks to those that replied. Charlie, what type of wax are you talking about? I must plead ignorance! Is applying it simply a matter of melting and brushing it over the nicks? Also, do you (or anyone else) think that removing existing nail polish with nail polish remover will harm the o

[RBW] Re: Riv Road for sale price question.

2009-08-29 Thread Neil
If you have the energy, parting it out and selling everything separately may yield more. The TA cranks may get a good chunk from people ho otherwise are not interested in the bike. Same with Chorus, especially if the shifters and hubs are alloy 10-speed. But I think the $1.5-2K guesses are reasona

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com

2009-08-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 03:50 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote: > > IMO, for a bike that's intended to be a modern club sport mount, DT > > shifters would be superfluous. > > As my last post on the topic, I will concede the club angle most > likely is what I am missing here. Bikes are my primary form of

[RBW] Re: DT shifters, another point of view

2009-08-29 Thread JoelMatthews
> I know it's easy to see the steel and lugs and think "A, Bob Jackson-ish" > or "Just like my old > Raleigh Competition," but those aren't the target with this one. Grant, I follow your points, but this is not at all what started me on this topic. The first thing that came to my mind when

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com

2009-08-29 Thread JoelMatthews
> IMO, for a bike that's intended to be a modern club sport mount, DT > shifters would be superfluous. As my last post on the topic, I will concede the club angle most likely is what I am missing here. Bikes are my primary form of transportation, I ride them to work, around town, for fun and on

[RBW] Re: WTT: Quickbeam 175 crank arms for 170 crank arms

2009-08-29 Thread Angus
I can't help you out with the cranks Dave (I have 175s on my Quickbeam too)...sorry. Hope you enjoy the bike, mine gets a lot more use that I thought it would. I don't understand why someone would buy a Quickbeam and not put miles on it...but it's your gain. I rode the bike a lot in Los Angeles

[RBW] Re: Retouching a touch up

2009-08-29 Thread charlie
I'd just use model paint. You can mix the little paint jars and get a custom color that matches. If you are not confident to do that, get an art student/person/friend to help. Model paint usually keeps fairly well. I just ride the beans out of my bikes and put some past wax on but I have to be tot