Re: [RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der

2011-04-07 Thread Ken Freeman
Not to derail the happy debate, but to the OP: have you considered a Huret Duopar or EcoDuopar? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: I agree about the 70 SunTours (VGT and the Luxe versions...great stuff), however, the Shimano Crane is IMO a great

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread scott
My bikes always have, at a minimum, a layer of dust on them. Two of my three bikes (not my Rivendell) have mismatched tires or wheels. And I don't even want to mention the torn bar tape. All bikes should look this way! A lubed chain keeps a bike happy, the rest is vanity. Oops, did I say

[RBW] WTB: Pacenti Quasi motos or Neomoto's

2011-04-07 Thread hobie
Does anyone have a pair of Pacenti 2.0 Quasi Motos they are not using and would like to sell? A pair of Neomoto 2.1's will also do. Thanks have a good one -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: 2011 Bombadil Revealed!

2011-04-07 Thread Mike
Beautiful bike Marty. Really looking forward to pictures of the complete build. Seems to have arrived just in time for spring. --mike On Apr 5, 4:54 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Perfection! http://tinyurl.com/32z9k4l I even included a video in the set to capture the beauty of the beast.

[RBW] Schwalbe Dureme

2011-04-07 Thread Mike
So not only am I a bet of a bagaholic but I've also got a problem with tires. I see Riv has the Duremes in stock. Who's riding them? How do you like them? I see they're stocking the 700x50 size which seems perfect for Hunqapillars. I'm sort of considering the 40s for my Hilsen. The Duremes seem

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme

2011-04-07 Thread William
My experience with them is that I've been checking the Riv site for the last several months waiting for them to be in stock. I'm eager to try them too! 40's or 50's for my Hillborne? I'm leaning towards the 40s. On Apr 7, 6:31 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So not only am I a bet of a

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme

2011-04-07 Thread jandrews_nyc
I'd love to try the 50's on my Hillborne...but am unsure if they'll fit. Does anyone know? The Supreme 50's measured closer to 45mm...on a Synergy rim..so I'm wondering if it's the same with the Duremes? Can anyone speak to their ride quality? Are they more supple than Marathon's? Good for

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Beth H
On Apr 7, 4:43 am, scott clankbonesh...@gmail.com wrote: My bikes always have, at a minimum, a layer of dust on them.   Uh-oh. Are they being ridden enough? ..::grin::.. Most of my beausage happens when I grow attached to a particular component or accessory on my bike and I take measures to

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Just for the record: my interest in the text and my reason for referring to it was not the writing style but the message: don't obsess over the looks of your bikes, they are meant for riding, though riding has no quarrel with looks. I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are

Re: [RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts

2011-04-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
That would make a very good option, but my experience from those wrenches as a boy back in the early '70s led me to think they will break at that very important time on the road when you need to fix a flat -- my old ones often did. Is the Riv-supplied one (I have one of those) sturdy enough for

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Scott G.
On Apr 7, 11:53 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Now I do live in a dry climate, but mine get washed about 3 times a year. (I am very careful about keeping the drivetrain cleaned and lubed.) I am too busy fixing flats to clean them more often than that. I live in a wetter

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme

2011-04-07 Thread William
jandrews For commentary on their ride quality I'd talk to Jay at Rivendell. Regarding the 40s vs the 50s, here is my thought process. Riv says the 40s measure a true 38.89. So if the 50s are really 10mm wider, that's basically 49mm wide. I took the calipers to my 56cm Hillborne this morning.

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Rick
I confess to admiring some of the purty show bikes from NAHBS, regularly visit the current classics section on cyclofiend's site, and admire the looks of my Rivs quite a bit, but I just don't have it in me to keep my bikes presentation-quality. Last time I tried to get the Atlantis seriously

[RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts

2011-04-07 Thread Jim Cloud
I don't think that wingnuts are very practical on a modern bike. They may, however, be suitable for a bike that's being restored with some bling. I recently saw a bike, at a LBS, that was in the restoration process. It was an older Carlton made Raleigh that the owner had painted (and pin

[RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der

2011-04-07 Thread William
Speaking of derailing (teehee)if the OP is still a list member who is asking for a derailer recommendation for a Bombadil, then I'd disagree with all of these vintage 5/6 speed derailers. I am totally convinced that a deerhead XT or a Duopar, or a Rally might work perfectly for those of you

Re: [RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts

2011-04-07 Thread Tim McNamara
I have a Surly Jethro Tool for those nuts- solid, high quality steel. It's intended to be stepped on if necessary to break loose or tighten the nut. I've never found it necessary. On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:11 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: That would make a very good option, but my experience from

Re: [RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts

2011-04-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks; that is a useful piece of information for the future. If only it had something more useful than a bottle opener on the other end. On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: I have a Surly Jethro Tool for those nuts- solid, high quality steel.  It's

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread CycloFiend
on 4/7/11 8:53 AM, PATRICK MOORE at bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Just for the record: my interest in the text and my reason for referring to it was not the writing style but the message: don't obsess over the looks of your bikes, they are meant for riding, though riding has no quarrel with

[RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der

2011-04-07 Thread William
I'm totally with you on the cheap part. The cheapskate in me hates buying something that doesn't work at all. I bought an early 90's XC pro front and rear derailer, only to find that I couldn't make it take a 32 tooth cog. It was only $40 that I spent on F+R, but I'm such a cheapskate that $40

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread William
What if something is both beautiful and kludgy? Is it beauludgy? Barf On Apr 7, 10:34 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 4/7/11 8:53 AM, PATRICK MOORE at bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Just for the record: my interest in the text and my reason for referring to it was not the

Re: [RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der

2011-04-07 Thread Tim McNamara
That said, I have SunTour Cyclone Superbe Pro rear derailleurs on both my A/R (135 mm, 12-24 7 speed f/w) and my Ritchey road bike (130 mm, 12-28 8 speed). Both function without a hiccup (friction downtube shifting in both cases). On Apr 7, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Minh wrote: So i use my Suntour

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme

2011-04-07 Thread Mike
40's seem like they'd be fine for most off road riding on a Hillborne or Hilsen. I guess if you need a bigger tire than that you probably need a different bike. I do wish they were a bit cheaper. --mike- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread doug peterson
My Atlantis only gets cleaned a few times a year, usually after a tour as part of the re-assembly process. It looks so nice all shiny'n'spiffy, before I start hanging racks'n'packs back on, I keep telling myself gotta take a good picture for cyclofiend's Atlantis site. Been working on that for a

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Lynne Fitz
What the Bleriot has been known to look like: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/2134762170/ After THAT ride, it took a fair amount of fortitude to clean it up... On Apr 6, 3:31 pm, Frank Quan jfq...@gmail.com wrote: After reading Grant's article, I feel better about myself.  I was feeling

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Mojo
I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners spend as much time cleaning them as riding them. Now I do live in a dry climate... Quite the assumption Patrick. Cleaning a bike takes about as much time as

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread William
Love the copper Legolas! Next color choice I have on a bike, I must consider copper. On Apr 7, 2:13 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom floor clean. Either they are not ridden, or, more likely, the owners spend as much time

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Eric Norris
I often hear comments about how clean my bikes are, usually given in a tone that suggests that I need serious therapy to deal with whatever issues I have ... That being said, I agree with Mojo that it's not really that hard to keep a bike clean. I wash my bikes with hot soapy water if they get

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread palincss
Quoting Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com: I often hear comments about how clean my bikes are, usually given in a tone that suggests that I need serious therapy to deal with whatever issues I have ... That being said, I agree with Mojo that it's not really that hard to keep a bike

[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-07 Thread Aaron Thomas
I wish the Riv/Soma frame didn't have Riv's new signature kickstand plate. I recall seeing a photo of someone's Hilsen (maybe Cyclofiend's?) that had been CX-raced in the mud. And the kickstand plate acted as a mud shelf, piling it up high behind the seat tube. The kickstand plate seems to

[RBW] FS: Merlin Solis 56.5 w/Dura-Ace

2011-04-07 Thread Anne
2005 Merlin Solis, Size Large, 56.5 top tube, 77.7 stand over This was my husband’s spare road ride and has been replaced by a custom build. The frame is in perfect shape. He prefers a quiet look to his frames so the top tube and down tube decals have been removed. From Merlin: “The Solis

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 15:08 -0700, Aaron Thomas wrote: The kickstand plate seems to limit the versatility of the frame, without really giving you any significant benefits. After all, you can always add a kickstand to a frame without a plate. Yes, sure, if you're willing to risk the chance of

Re: [RBW] FS: Merlin Solis 56.5 w/Dura-Ace

2011-04-07 Thread andrew hill
Really? Listing a bike with carbon in the frame on this particular email list? That's a bold move. ;) On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Anne wrote: 2005 Merlin Solis, Size Large, 56.5 top tube, 77.7 stand over This was my husband’s spare road ride and has been replaced by a custom build.

[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-07 Thread William
If you are in the market for a $1000 range cyclocross frameset with optimal mud clearance, I agree that the Soma San Marcos is not your best choice. Nor is the Hillborne. On Apr 7, 3:08 pm, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I wish the Riv/Soma frame didn't have Riv's new signature

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
It is metaphysically (literally) impossible for something to be kludgy in the sense of badly designed and to be at the same time and in the same respect beautiful, since beauty implies order and harmony among the parts -- ie, that is part of what it is to be beautiful, at least in composite

Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I know, I was just kidding -- I can clean a bike in about five minutes, with soap and hose (chain and lubing take a bit longer). I too clean mine after being caught in a shower, but that is rather rare out here. On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: I am surprised by

[RBW] Re: FS: Merlin Solis 56.5 w/Dura-Ace

2011-04-07 Thread Minh
Well it does have Noodle bars. On Apr 7, 6:34 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: Really?  Listing a bike with carbon in the frame on this particular email list?  That's a bold move.  ;) On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Anne wrote: 2005 Merlin Solis, Size Large, 56.5 top tube,

[RBW] Re: FS: Merlin Solis 56.5 w/Dura-Ace

2011-04-07 Thread Anne
Yes it is outside the norm for here and indeed it is less than a Roadeo. It's a super riding bike too. So an ad here for a bike with some ti and that small bit of carbon? Yes. However the riding position on the bike is very much in line with Riv fit and philosophy. The Brooks B-17 was removed as

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread William
I stopped paying attention at 'metaphysically' and slipped into a coma at 'pulchritudinem'. Next time talk into my good ear. On Apr 7, 3:56 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: It is metaphysically (literally) impossible for something to be kludgy in the sense of badly designed and to

[RBW] Re: FS: Merlin Solis 56.5 w/Dura-Ace

2011-04-07 Thread Frankwurst
This may be true but read what Anne has to say and if anybody is the least bit interested you will not be dissapointed if you buy a bike from her. I know. I bought my current Atlantis from her and if anything she understates the overall condition of the things she sells. On Apr 7, 5:34 pm, andrew

[RBW] Re: FS: Merlin Solis 56.5 w/Dura-Ace

2011-04-07 Thread William
at that price you could part it out on ebay and you'd have the frameset for free. On Apr 7, 4:43 pm, Frankwurst fbr...@jwperry.com wrote: This may be true but read what Anne has to say and if anybody is the least bit interested you will not be dissapointed if you buy a bike from her. I know. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Retro Rear Der

2011-04-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
My VGT worked on a weird 13-32 7 sp cassette, just not as well as the immediately post-curlicue Shimano long cage I replaced it with. I had a Superbe Pro rd that worked well on a 7 or 8 sp cassette. On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: That said, I have

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Bill M.
Five pictures of the Legolas, five different saddle bags! Forget about cleaning, when do you find time to organize your bag collection? :) On Apr 7, 2:13 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: I am surprised by the many photos I see of bikes that are showroom floor clean. Either they are not

[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-07 Thread EricP
Winter riding. Even with full coverage fenders, snow/salt/slush accumulate on a plate. I still argue this can lead to early corrosion of the stays when it builds up over a few winters. (A similar argument was recently conducted on the Surly LHT list. Someone there indicated to me a powdercoat

[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas

2011-04-07 Thread Lynne Fitz
Miles on the Bleriot... Looking... 9614. :-) On Apr 5, 6:57 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Ah, yes. The Bleriot…how many miles on it now? From: Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent:

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 18:14 -0700, EricP wrote: Winter riding. Even with full coverage fenders, snow/salt/slush accumulate on a plate. I still argue this can lead to early corrosion of the stays when it builds up over a few winters. Certainly not a problem here in Northern Virginia. --

[RBW] Re: FS: Merlin Solis 56.5 w/Dura-Ace

2011-04-07 Thread rcnute
If memory serves I got an Eddy Merckx from Anne that was spectacular. Ryan On Apr 7, 4:43 pm, Frankwurst fbr...@jwperry.com wrote: This may be true but read what Anne has to say and if anybody is the least bit interested you will not be dissapointed if you buy a bike from her. I know. I

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Mojo
That is the Legolas group, and only the newest two pictures, and two bags, are my bike. On Apr 7, 6:42 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: Five pictures of the Legolas, five different saddle bags! Forget about cleaning, when do you find time to organize your bag collection?  :) On Apr 7,

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas

2011-04-07 Thread cyclotourist
10K anniversary coming up soon! On 4/7/11, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: Miles on the Bleriot... Looking... 9614. :-) On Apr 5, 6:57 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Ah, yes. The Bleriot…how many miles on it now? From: Lynne Fitz

[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-07 Thread Jason Hansen
Lucky! Did you get any information regarding pricing and release date? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-07 Thread CycloFiend
on 4/7/11 3:08 PM, Aaron Thomas at aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I wish the Riv/Soma frame didn't have Riv's new signature kickstand plate. I recall seeing a photo of someone's Hilsen (maybe Cyclofiend's?) that had been CX-raced in the mud. And the kickstand plate acted as a mud shelf, piling

RE: [RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread Kelly Sleeper
I don't mind using wipes to clean up the frame now and again.. I just hate cleaning the wheels.. just tedious.. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of palin...@his.com Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 4:41 PM To:

[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-07 Thread velomann
I'm more intrigued by this bike all the time. I agree with others that 1.125 stems are an improvement, headset adjustment wise. But I still prefer 1-inch quill stems, aesthetically, so that's a plus to me. And downtube shifter bosses - hella yes! And if you don't like em, see if your LBS has some

[RBW] Re: Beausage and Beaunction

2011-04-07 Thread rob markwardt
I honestly don't think I've ever soap and watered any of my bikes. I do wipe off the mud or dirt/dust after it dries but that's about it. I think I read a remark from Jackie Phelan (anybody read Frazz today?) or Charlie Cunnigham or someone similar who basically said..why wipe off the muck, it