[RBW] Re: Old age, higher bars, more forward reach and Maes Professional bars from Compass Bikes

2011-07-09 Thread Michael Hechmer
Patrick, I always find brake lever placement a delicate matter, and have learned to take the bike for at least a 20 mile ride before taping the bars. Moving them backwards always seems to feel better from the top, but I quickly get to the point where they are hard to reach from the drops. How

Re: [RBW] Re: Old age, higher bars, more forward reach and Maes Professional bars from Compass Bikes

2011-07-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I am pretty confident of lever placement after all these years -- and I hate taping, let alone re-taping bars. I've long since found the position that gives me the best toward a flat continuation of the ramp with adequate reach from the hooks, and with the new Maes bars that optimum compromise is a

[RBW] Re: independence day weekend

2011-07-09 Thread Pondero
Loved the tag line, and wanted to see the photos, but the link didn't work for me(???). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, s

[RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread Forrest
I'm with Charlie on the 2TT on the 56 Sam's. Looks fine, distinctive even, and Grant has explained the function to my satisfaction. I had a 56 Sam with one top tube, and it was fine/good for what I was doing with it -- no problems. And I replaced that with a 58 Atlantis, but not because there w

Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Two tts on a *56*? Me, I just don't get it. I use light gauge-tubed, thin-tubed racing and randonneur bikes (old ones, with long stays) for grocery loads and my Fargo off roader certainly doesn't need 2 tts. And, fwiw, most of the third world roadsters have only 1 tt (I've seen them in India, Pakis

[RBW] Re: Belated Hunqapillar new owner report/photo

2011-07-09 Thread brian tester
They *are* 700x50s. I don't think I would go a whole lot bigger than that. 29x2.1s would probably fit. . . . -Brian On Jul 8, 9:23 am, Ginz wrote: > Nice Hunq'a! Skinny tires, though! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To pos

[RBW] Re: Belated Hunqapillar new owner report/photo

2011-07-09 Thread Geoff
Hi Brian, Thanks! Apparently, we both have good taste in bikes. LOL Yeah, I really love the Bullmoose bar. When I test rode the Hunq, they didn't have one in my size set up with the Bullmoose. So, they had me test ride an Atlantis that had a Bullmoose. I hadn't even made it to the end of

[RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread Jay
I emailed back and forth with Grant for about a week before deciding that the undertube wasn't for me. His explanation, as far as I understood, is that the unusually long head tube on the Sam reduces the frame's resistance to twisting. The 2nd tube "re-triangulates" the main triangle and eliminate

Re: [RBW] WTB: Sachs Aris Freewheel bits

2011-07-09 Thread William
I'd be happy to work with you on your custom freewheel plans, especially if it earns me a couple cogs! I'm in El Cerrito. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com

Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread Michael Hechmer
I think this does come down to how you use a bike. The Hunqapillar and the Bombadill are both really designed for rough, single track riding. And for that application the 2TT solution probably has a slight advantage. If you will be primarily riding on roads, even dirt roads the Atlantis or AHH

Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread jimD
My custom Riv is 63 cm, I ride mainly on roads and it is a very fine riding bike. Were I ever to need and be able to get another Riv custom I wouldn't want the double parallel top tubes. Something about parallel top tubes doesn't feel right to me. This is what happens when your paradigm for ni

Re: [RBW] Re: Old age, higher bars, more forward reach and Maes Professional bars from Compass Bikes

2011-07-09 Thread Michael_S
I'ver had to move my bars up because of my relationship with Brooks B17's. I am not comfortable on that saddle unless the ramps are right at the rear saddle height. And I'm not going to give up that saddle as it's the best fit for my hind quarters ever! I'm right behind you on years Patrick (5

Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread Aaron Thomas
If the structural integrity issues produced by the 6 degree upsloping TT are such that Grant has to make a hard sell on 2TT or compromise on strength, why not go back to nearly horizontal top tubes? My Romulus and Bleriot both seem plenty stiff with their lesser 1-2 degree upsloping TTs. When th

Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread cm
I like the 2tt and would definitely want it if i were getting a Sam. I ride a 56 SH and weigh 160 lbs. I like the way it looks and didn't think it affected the ride at all. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To v

Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread James Warren
My Atlantis is 64 cm and has a 2.5 degree TT slope. My Hillborne is 60 cm and has a 6 degree TT slope. My AHH is 65 cm and has a 1.5 degree TT slope. The expanded frame geometry (with its 6 degree TT slope) was meant to allow fewer sizes to fit more people. A 60 cm Hillborne fits me well, whi

Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread James Warren
Oh, I forgot to point out that for top tubes of the lengths in question here (60ish cm), every degree increase in TT slope raises the top of the head tube by about 1 cm. (Math solution is below.) This means that the 64 cm Atlantis and the 65 cm AHH put the handlebar at just about equal heights.

Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread William
James W I'm not sure which side of the discussion you are arguing with this thought experiment, but as of July 9, 2011 it appears the Riv position is: Your 64cm Atlantis. They don't make it anymore, they recommend the Bombadil, which has a 2TT Your 60cm Hillborne. Has a 2TT if somebody goes

Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread Eric Daume
It's funny, the Sam has always been on my radar, but I've always held back for one reason or another. But now that I can't get a 60cm single top tuber, it's suddenly much more desirable. I guess it's the old "wanting what you can't have" phenomenon. The double tubers are a non-starter for me. Too m

Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread Zack
I am proud to have a 64cm 2TT on the way, and I can't wait for it to get here. (seriously, the waiting game sucks!). I didn't initially love the 2TT, but have done a total 180 on it. I think it looks beautiful actually. Seeing them in person, and seeing a few pics online which, to me, really

[RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread Philip Williamson
What if you could get a tweed bag that fit nicely between the top tube and the undertube? Would anyone change their minds over the aesthetics? Maybe it would be worse... I made a mockup of a tweed frame bag with a photo of Jay's yellow bike: http://bit.ly/tweed-frame-bag Full URL: http://www.biket

Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread cyclotourist
That my friend, wins the internet award for cool idea of the day! You are hereby dubbed, "King of the Internets, July 9th, 2011"! Long may you reign* Dustin showed me this bag previously, and while not t

[RBW] Re: SimpleOne gearing

2011-07-09 Thread jandrews_nyc
Thanks for all the advice everybody. I decided to go with a single W.I. 16t freewheel to use with the 40t/32t crankset up front. I'll start with 2 speeds giving me 68 and 54 gear inches. Hopefully this simplicity will keep me happy. Who knows, Maybe later I'll get a Dos freewheel, or a bigger b

Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread jamison brosseau
i wish all of my bikes had at least two top tubes. maybe even three. i may do the wooden dowel trick, on my bombadil to see what it looks like. i prolly don't need em. i like the way they look. 50mm tires in nyc on mostly roads is really one of the best choices i have ever made. im not sl

[RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread Mike
On Jul 9, 12:16 pm, Philip Williamson wrote: > What if you could get a tweed bag that fit nicely between the top tube > and the undertube? >  Philip > >  Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com Yes!!! All hail Philip, King of Ye Olde Internets! I wonder if RBW will explore frame bags. A Sackville fr

Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 12:16 -0700, Philip Williamson wrote: > What if you could get a tweed bag that fit nicely between the top tube > and the undertube? Would anyone change their minds over the > aesthetics? Maybe it would be worse... > > I made a mockup of a tweed frame bag with a photo of Jay's

[RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread EricP
The decision to put the second top tube on the 56cm Sam Hillborne was the deciding factor to keep my early monotube. Was going to sell because that bike can feel stiff and somewhat sluggish. (In reality, it's the rider, not the bike.) But just not personally convinced the 56 needs the undertube.

Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread Michael_S
My point of view is ...that for a camping/heavy touring bike the double top tube seems OK, if it's the triangulated version like on the Hunqua. The parallel version is not attractive to me. (and I'm not fond of the larger upslope either). For anything less than that it's just extra weight... o

[RBW] Re: New Herse Crank (and BQ Spoiler Alert!)

2011-07-09 Thread S.Cutshall
I run DaVinci cranks on my Bleriot. Fabulous quality, low Q, beautiful eye candy. Extremely pleased with them. -Scott On Jul 8, 6:08 pm, Michael Hechmer wrote: > Here's a crank, made in america, (White Ind) with 130, 110, or 104 spiders > and crank lengths from 150 to 200 mm, with a very low Q

Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Oh, gawd! Tweed bags! On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Philip Williamson wrote: > What if you could get a tweed bag that fit nicely between the top tube > and the undertube? Would anyone change their minds over the > aesthetics? Maybe it would be worse... > > I made a mockup of a tweed frame bag w

Re: [RBW] Re: New Herse Crank (and BQ Spoiler Alert!)

2011-07-09 Thread Tim McNamara
Looking at the web site I see the DaVinci/White Industries Q factor is listed at a whopping 158 mm. Jeez! A stance that wide would getcha arrested at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport. Hopefully that's just for triples and doubles are narrower than that. The trend to ridiculously wide cranks

[RBW] Re: independence day weekend

2011-07-09 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Hmmm... Sorry 'bout that. It works for me. I'll see if there's an alternate way that I can post. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d

[RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference

2011-07-09 Thread numbnuts
But it sure is pretty. And a fella, or gal, could ride one for a very long time and in many different iterations. It's not for me, at least not now, but I consider it a Riv gem. Says Chris, who rides a modern day klunker almost every day. Redding, Ca. -- You received this message because you ar

[RBW] Re: independence day weekend

2011-07-09 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
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[RBW] I'm pretty excited about my new dynamo wheelset

2011-07-09 Thread William
It took several months of waiting, but my dynamo wheelset has finally come together. Velocity has offered their Deep V rims with a retro-reflective powder coat, that they call Halo. I emailed Velocity and asked them if they'd sell me a set of 650B rims with that same coating. They agreed to

[RBW] Re: independence day weekend

2011-07-09 Thread Pondero
Works! Thanks, and it looked like a great time...a civilized adventure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to r

Re: [RBW] Re: New Herse Crank (and BQ Spoiler Alert!)

2011-07-09 Thread cyclotourist
Ba-dump-bump! But seriously folks, a wider Q seems to helped out my IT band problem. YMMV etc. On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: > Looking at the web site I see the DaVinci/White Industries Q factor is > listed at a whopping 158 mm. Jeez! A stance that wide would getcha

[RBW] WTB/WTT: My Waterford R-33 for your X-33, Legolas or similar cross bike

2011-07-09 Thread Will
I've got a lovely red Waterford R-33 frame here with a (gasp) carbon fork. You really can't get a lighter steel frame; the ride on this bike is simply wonderful. Absolutely stunning paint job with blue flames creeping up the form and frame. Here are the details: http://waterfordbikes.com/now/framed

Re: [RBW] Re: independence day weekend

2011-07-09 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
It was a bike-picnic and not an S24O. But the gear was a joy to use and the resulting meal was delicious. The oatmeal and coffee were made by boiling about 24oz water, which took about 12 min. The salami and eggs took about 15-20 min combined. I used about 5-6oz of fuel (85-90% denatured alcohol

[RBW] I'm pretty excited about my new dynamo wheelset

2011-07-09 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Looking good. I keep trying to take mine off but even with longer days they come in handy. Got two hours of night riding in tonight.. You are going to love those wheels! Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this