Nice as is, but begs for a 650B conversion:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200882676560ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
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On Friday, January 11, 2013 5:33:21 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
wrote:
It's been awhile since I did this, but I have some pointers for dealing
with bends. Start in the middle of the bend and wrap in both directions
from there.
He looks like The Norwegian Captain to me.
On Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:56:48 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
We got lost. I blame Sean. His general saying was, Well if Grant can do
it...
All in good fun when no one gets hurt.
Stopped at a garage sale afterwards and pick up some swag.
My Hillborne and its Sugino XD2 are about 3 years old. I recently put a new
chain on and had 100% reliable chain suck on the granny ring.
Earl Grey helped me out with a replacement ring and I put it on this
afternoon. Its interesting to note how severely burred the original ring is
on several
Superb video! I'd really like to try this now.
Added Newbaums to the shopping list...
Does anyone use shellac on bars done with this type of wrap?
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I always advocate the proper disposal of worn-out parts...but that ring looks
like it may be reversible. File off the most prominent burrs, and flip the ring.
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driving into work this morning, in the dark, there were two bicycles
stopped at the end of the left shoulder on a limited access highway. No
lights.
I know how they got there, but I can't imagine why. So you weren't as lost
as they were. Glad you made the best of it.
On Sunday, January
I was impressed by Mark's articulation and by the obvious lack of
attitude among the speakers.
Packing: the packing for frames and bikes I've received have been real
works of art in themselves.
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow..I didn't know John
One of the most misunderestimated factors contributing to bike performance is a
fast-sounding catalog description.
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I did, and it works great. Pic here (please excuse the poor harlequin effort -
I was making it up as I went along. Anyway, the question was about shellac!).
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/5645451069/in/set-72157626433454817
And the great thing about shellac - that you can
Down the rabbit hole we go, talking about fast bikes, blergh. I think
there are just so many factors that go into one bike feeling fast over
another--tires, rider position, crank length, bb, spoke count, type of
rims, level of components, rider abilty, wind resistance, terrain, etc. I
like to
I am moving to Chicago in two weeks, and I want to explore the cycling
scene there. Will rent first, maybe in 'burbs near O'Hare airport.
Eventually may buy a place in a city neighborhood north/northwest of
downtown. Anyone on this list know of good trails, shops, cycling
resources, kindred
I am going to be able to answer this in 4 months or so, that is about when
my Roadeo will be coming in. I have been using the Sam as a go fast bike
for club rides, as it is my only bike so I had to make due. The Roadeo will
be my fast bike once I get it, so I will be able to compare the two on
I think the simplest way I can put my topic question is: Why does Grant
describe it as their bike for fast rides? I am just interested in what it
is about this frame, and what they designed into the frame, to make it for
that intended purpose. It is not mentioned in their description on
Michael wrote
The description on the site led me to believe it is the fastest bike they
make... However, it doesn't say what makes it that way
OK, I'm still kind of guessing what it is you are after, so I'll ask and
answer my own questions, and see if that helps at all. I'm trying to
answer
I agree this is really helpful.
Brian, how many rolls did you need? I'd guess you needed two rolls of
Maroon. Did you get away with only one roll of yellow?
On Friday, December 28, 2012 12:51:45 AM UTC-8, stonehog wrote:
I finally got the hang of getting a video set up on doing a
Hi Charlie,
I'm interested in purchasing the Atlantis -- looks like a great bike and
just what I am looking for! I did a test-ride on a 50cm Sam Hillbourne and
that fit great (I'm 5'1). I am hoping that the 51cm Atlantis will fit.
Could you help me with a few questions? First, I live in
Hi Chris,
I flew up November 30th form Burbank on a stormy day, my wife and I rode
the Hilsen, Hillborne and Betty Foy and a couple others, the Riv crew were
great, Rich educated me on their wheels and Keven was his usual helpful
self. I ordered a AAH with custom color and Brian just sent me
Hi Tommy-
It wasn't till I saw the Burnside Bridge that I realized it was *YOUR
Bombadi*l! That was a quick build and a beautiful one. Love the handlebar
tape.
Ride safely! You'll never go wrong listening to Smitty Manny.
Dennis in PDX
On Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:45:54 PM UTC-8,
+1 on the OR Randonneurs, a very nice group of riders, several Riv riders -
for club rides, the Portland Wheelman have daily rides of varying distance
and difficulty. Check their website at: pwtc.com. Look for the rides tab.
Dennis in PDX
On Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:11:13 AM UTC-8, Eric
I'm selling my Homer Hilsen. It's a little over a year old, in good shape.
Usual scratches: some chain-suck marks on the chainstay, chips around the
left shifter boss. Frame, fork, headset, brakes, rack, fenders, for $1300.
Here's a link to some older pictures:
Hello Rivendell folks,
As much as I like reading your posts and stories, I love the pictures the
most, so here are some of mine.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/desert-lake/
enjoy
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For sale are gently to never used items, shipping $5-10 depending on the
item(s).
See the link for the pics:
https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A1JtdOXmGa4I7p
If interested, please email me directly. PayPal is preferred.
Nitto R-14 rear rack, excellent condition: $60, included clamps.
Nitto
Peter, I'm newer on here. Is this similar to the Hunquapillar? If I'd need a
62cm in the Hunquapillar would there be a way that w the seat lowered this
could work for me? Not sure how to figure this out. Thanks in advance.
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Why does Grant describe it as their bike for fast rides? I am just
interested in what it is about this frame, and what they designed into the
frame, to make it for that intended purpose. It is not mentioned in their
description on the Rivbike.com site for the model, and I am curious.
This is
I don't know why your rides end up like this but I know who I'll look up if
I'm ever in your area. Your rides sound fun.
- Ryan
On Sunday, January 20, 2013 7:56:48 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
We got lost. I blame Sean. His general saying was, Well if Grant can do
it...
All in good fun
My feeling is that when the Rambouillet was supplanted by the AHH, a few people
felt that the added tire clearance of the AHH was a performance compromise,
somehow. The compromise was more perceived than real, but when a company is
trying to sell stuff, perception is everything. So Grant
You know, as has been covered a few times on this list the people at RBW
are really nice. If you have a question you can reach out to them by old
fashioned telephone and talk to them.
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:22 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
Why does Grant describe it as their bike
In addition to the burrs, there may be non-obvious wear in the valley of
the tooth pattern - you essentially elongate the dip. I usually match up
the new under the old to determine how much change to the shape has
occurred. The burrs are probably the cause of chainsuck, but the more
rounded
Nice bike, Hugh
The AHH sure was a fun bike to ride. Did you test ride on the trail just down
the street? The Iron Horse trail?
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That green meanie is a great looking bike! 58cm? Just splendid.
On Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:33:35 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
Hi Chris,
I flew up November 30th form Burbank on a stormy day, my wife and I rode
the Hilsen, Hillborne and Betty Foy and a couple others, the Riv crew were
The Renovelo offered now started as a Rambouillet, which is pretty
different from a Hunq. The size is fairly similar, 60cm top tube/88cm
standover for the Renovelo vs 62TT/91 standover for the Hunq. But the
Hunq takes a much wider tire and canti brakes. If you can live with
35mm tires, it's a
Just beautiful! What is that shade of green?
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If you need a 62 Hunq, then you probably need the seat raised with the 64
Renovelo you see. This Renovelo has a 2 degree up sloping TT. The Hunq's
corresponding angle is 6 degrees. This results in the Hunq's head tube position
being 4 cm higher than the 2 degree bikes, given equal seat tube
And as a follow-up, the following Rivendell's are in the 6 degree sloping TT
category: Bombadil, Hillborne, Hunqapillar, San Marcos
The following are the more horizontal TT models: Atlantis, AHH, Roadeo,
Rambouillet, Romulus, Legolas, Quickbeam, Simpleone
In the second category, AHH's angle is
Looks like a lot of people are putting on miles this MLK weekend. Great to
see them and all the new bikes coming along as well!
I was able to get out yesterday, for my first long ride (2 hr) since
Thanksgiving. I wanted to put some miles in to see if I could pull off the
115K SFR route next
Are the geometries the same? I don't follow enough to know, honestly.
-J
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The geometries are quite different. You can compare here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc#gid=0
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:08 AM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote:
Are the geometries the same? I don't follow enough to know, honestly.
-J
A call to RBW would probably answer any questions but looking at the
published Riv geometry Google doc there are differences that would make the
Rodeo more of a club bike - shorter chainstays, less rake, slightly
different ST and HT angles. Those differences plus component selection add
up to
Well, I'll be the first one to complain about the video - the slide guitar
wasn't audible enough on the outdoor jam. Excellent playing but coulda
used a second microphone to pick up the instruments better. (That's the
guitar playing side of me coming out).
Otherwise it was a very enjoyable
Hey hey,
Question about crank length and possible change. I'm riding a 59 bleriot
protovelo that I bought used with a 175mm shimano 105 cranks on it. The pedal
strike I get is kind of avoidable,but still present frequently. I've tried
the mks stream pedals that it came with, along with the
Alex-
I'd like the Northroads if they're still available, I'm in St. Paul so I
could pick them up, I live in Highland.
On Sunday, January 20, 2013 11:16:06 AM UTC-6, velobandit wrote:
For sale are gently to never used items, shipping $5-10 depending on the
item(s).
See the link for the
If it's a recent 105, it's a Hollowtech BB, which is integrated into the
crank; to switch to the Sugino, you'd need a JIS square-taper BB in its
place
What tire size are you running? If you're on 32's, might want to try 38's,
that might help a bit, too... it's subtle, but, sometimes
I am continuing to clean out the parts bins and evaluate what I am actually
going to use. A few items for sale. All prices include shipping in CONUS.
Local pickup in Minneapolis/St. Paul is great also.
1. White Industries VBC Crank 170mm with 38t and 44t ENO Rings (no
crankbolts) - $150
2.
Can't reply directly via mobile, but I'll absolutely take the R-14
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Went out to look and you're correct on the Hollowtech BB. bummer. I'm
running the col de la vie 37mm tires, so not much room there. I guess will
keep my eyes open for a BB and cranks at good prices. Anyone on list
looking to clean out their garage, let me know.
On Monday, January 21, 2013
Or trade for good condition On-One Midges OR something approximating a 38
cm Grand Bois Maes Parallel (115 mm reach 125 mm drop).
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The geometry is not all that hard to figure out. A few mm of length change
will change your clearance by a few mm. A few degrees of extra lean before
you scrape. Pedal scrapes during a deep lean can be incredibly dangerous.
In my opinion, it is much more important to have the right length
Agree -- I wanted to hear more of the guitar.
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I'll be the first one to complain about the video - the slide guitar
wasn't audible enough on the outdoor jam. Excellent playing but coulda
used a second microphone
It'll surely help going to 165's.Or be bold and go with 152 Sugino's
I'm tall with big feet and switched to those with a mid foot pedal
position with Birkenstocks . I just giggle every time I ride because it's
so much fun and so wonderful feeling. You get the leverage of a longer
165's will help or be bold and go with Sugino 152's !I'm tall with
big feet and switched to these after imaging what it would feel like to
have the leverage of a long crank but the speed of a short one . So I
tried a mid foot pedal position with my Birks ... and it was Love at
I wanted more cowbell.
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:22 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Agree -- I wanted to hear more of the guitar.
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.comwrote:
Well, I'll be the first one to complain about the video - the slide
Hope the weather is good up there... looks like showers both days.
I need to get up there and ride Mt Tam one of these days.
If you stop at Riv pick me up a green 54 Hunqa.
~mike
On Monday, January 21, 2013 10:23:30 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like a lot of people are
Looks like I've got some reading/learning to do in terms of bottom
brackets. All riv's take a 100mm with the Sugino XD-2 crank is what
rivbike says on their $40 cartridge bb page. Then looking at Phil Wood
bb's on the net there are too many options
On Monday, January 21, 2013 12:26:07
FYI:
I ride a 55 Bleriot with Ultegra 172.5 cranks and MKS touring pedals with
toe clips.
The clips drag the ground when walking the bike, but there is nary a pedal
strike when cornering (non-racer style cornering).
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Also FYI:
Lon Haldeman, who is very tall and long limbed, rode 170 cranks on his
race bike according to interview in RR.
Maybe go to 170 cranks.
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Says 110mm, like this one,
http://www.jensonusa.com/Bottom-Brackets/Shimano-UN53-Square-Taper-BB
$10
On Jan 21, 10:42 pm, Dave davele...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like I've got some reading/learning to do in terms of bottom
brackets. All riv's take a 100mm with the Sugino XD-2 crank is what
I am not ready to buy yet, so I don't want to waste their time on the
phone at this point.
At this point I am still going with the Hilsen when I get to buy for all
its eylet/braze on options, even though I am a saddle bag kinda guy and
don't need racks for the riding I do.
The Hilsen
Thanks Jay. Typo on my part. 110mm. Then with Phil Wood, seems like 110
isn't an option.108, 111, 113. Not that I'm ready to drop that kind of
cash, but just trying to understand my options.
On Monday, January 21, 2013 12:51:08 PM UTC-8, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
Says 110mm, like this
Considering what a nuisance it is to change inner rings, I'd pitch it so as
to avoid temptation, especially as the new one solved the problem. You may
consider more frequent chain replacements. I've gone from replacing chains
whenever to every 3-4,000 miles max. It makes the expensive,
CORRECTION:
On second thought, ignore what I said about raising the seat. Everything else I
said was true but it is true that with the Expanded frames you do show more
seatpost. So yes, the 64 cm Renovelo would show less seatpost than a 62 cm
Hunq. However, the 62 cm would feel like a bigger
I've got a 107 on my Bomba w/ the XD2 crankset, works fine; but the 110
would be great, too. (My Ram has a Shimano Octalink BB/crankset, so
it's not directly comparable...)
A 170 might be good to try; but I'm still thinking 'simpler' fixes
first... can a Bleriot fit Hetres?
There may be something to what you are saying about the hamstrings as I
noticed the back problem starting when it started to get cold here
in Maryland this year and my hamstrings seem to be tighter these days (I do
some light regular stretching).
I have the bars down to 1.75cm above
bleriot can fit hetres I believe, and hope to get a pair once these col de
la vie's need replacing. May give Grip Kings a go, although I really doubt
they'll be narrower than the platform pedals or the MKS streams.
On Monday, January 21, 2013 1:12:51 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote:
I've got a 107 on
With a Tange or Shimano Cartridge, the 107 and 110 have the same drive side
length, so the 110 simply gives you 3mm more on the left.
However, with Shimano's they have a lip built into the *left* side cup also
so if you use a driveside spacer it won't sung up all the way with the
cartridge.
Sorry, all. Second link was bad. For those interested, here's the
post-reshellacking.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7107219303/in/set-72157626433454817
From: Allingham II, Thomas J (WIL)
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To: 'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE:
Do Hetres have inflation pressure ranges on the sidewalls?
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Adding more fuel to your fire, your saddle looks too far back to me. I
originally set up my AHH with the saddle pushed back due to the advice I
read, then spent 6 months wondering why I didn't enjoy riding it as much as
my other bikes -- I just couldn't get comfortable. Once I pushed it
forward
Ill take those Paul levers - mobile wont let me reply directly!
-J
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On Mon, 2013-01-21 at 13:20 -0800, Dave wrote:
bleriot can fit hetres I believe,
Joan's definitely does. Bleriot is essentially the same as Saluki, and
mine fit Hetres.
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I've been obsessively watching the weather reports... looks like this was
the weekend to be in the Bay Area!
Would you be okay w/ a gray/kidney 54 Hunq?
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Mike Schiller
mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:
Hope the weather is good up there... looks like showers both
Oh, the places my Quickbeam has taken me. Came across this blog post from 2006
as I was responding to another email … photos and report from midway through a
14-day fixed gear ride from California to Kansas.
On this particular day, we rode 151 miles across southern Utah. As I reported
that
I'm far from an expert on fit -- I probably shouldn't even be
responding here -- but under your body, that bike just looks small to
me. Are you getting decent leg extension with the pedal at 6 o'clock?
Joe
On Jan 21, 4:31 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:
Adding more fuel to your fire,
I didnt want to the the first Big Riv guy but the bike does look a bit
small.
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Joe K kube...@aol.com wrote:
I'm far from an expert on fit -- I probably shouldn't even be
responding here -- but under your body, that bike just looks small to
me. Are you getting
A used Gray/Kidney Hunqa would be even better. I shoulda bought on when
they were discounted..
~mike
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Yes you should have!!! I shoulda' picked up a 58 as well!!!
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:
A used Gray/Kidney Hunqa would be even better. I shoulda bought on when
they were discounted..
~mike
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58cm that is.
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:07 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:
Yes you should have!!! I shoulda' picked up a 58 as well!!!
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Mike Schiller
mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:
A used Gray/Kidney Hunqa would be even better. I shoulda
The best bet for mounting XD2s on a Bleriot is to contact Rivendell for BB
length. Mark's email is m...@rivbike.com. He'll know what a Bleriot runs.
On the topic of pedal strike, I can't remember the last time I did that. I
either coast through with inside pedal up, or carve the turn with a
Those differences are mostly inconsequential. Take for example the 108.
Compared to the 110, it's narrower by 1mm per side. OK, so sometimes that
can mean the difference between the crank arms clearing the chainstay, but
most of the time it's really not that important to get the BB length spot
Might be difficult to do the conversion...
From 700C to 650B, you'll need to drop the brake pads by about 19mm. That
appears doable on the front but the rear brake is already mid-slotted so
that may be problematic. Furthermore, the current brakes look to be
Dia-Compe Mod 750. These brakes have
I said sold!
Patrick Moore
iPhone
On Jan 21, 2013, at 1:15 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Or trade for good condition On-One Midges OR something approximating a 38 cm
Grand Bois Maes Parallel (115 mm reach 125 mm drop).
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Thanks for all the replies folks!
On Monday, January 21, 2013 2:36:28 PM UTC-8, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
Those differences are mostly inconsequential. Take for example the 108.
Compared to the 110, it's narrower by 1mm per side. OK, so sometimes that
can mean the difference between the
Thanks for all the replies! I talked with Brian over at RBW who suggested
170mm crank arms on the bleriot for a rider my height.
Anyone have an extra used or new sugino xd2 170mm?
Dave
On Monday, January 21, 2013 2:36:28 PM UTC-8, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
Those differences are mostly
Nice ride report!
If it does get muddy, you're better off on Mt Tam than Diablo. Diablo mud
often makes the trails unrideable. If you head over for Diablo, though, let
us know and there will probably be some locals to show you around.
jim m
wc ca
On Monday, January 21, 2013 10:23:30 AM
According to the Rivendell Bleriot sizing chart in the Bleriot Flyer, as
posted on the cyclofiend site, I fall smack dab into the 55 size.
I was surprised how large I look on it whe I first saw the pics. I had
never seen myself on it before and always thought it would look bigger
under
By the way:
I really want to thank everybody for helping me on this. I really
appreciate it!
Kep it coming if you have any ideas. I need help.
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Nice shots!! Thanks for sharing.
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Definitely an epic ride! My legs burn just thinking of all that
distance and climbing with a fixed gear.
jim m
wc ca
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:48 PM, campyonly...@me.com wrote:
Oh, the places my Quickbeam has taken me. Came across this blog post from
2006 as I was responding to another email
Hey folks
Just wondering what the general consensus is for the best combination of fat
and supple tires for 700c. I currently have Pasela 32c on it but would like a
bit more cush if I can get it while not going full on Schwalbe tank.
Thanks!
-J
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Hey folks
Just wondering what the general consensus is for the best combination of fat
and supple tires for 700c. I currently have Pasela 32c on it but would like a
bit more cush if I can get it while not
going full on Schwalbe
Let me urge upon y'all that as porky as the Big Apples undoubtedly are (I
don't bother with the nasty, skinny 50s. The 60s I have are the LiteSkin
model at a svelte 800 gr) they do roll very well for their heft even at
absurdly low pressures.
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Jim Mather
Green bike, that looks gray in some shots? Pretty bike, either way
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
Nice shots!! Thanks for sharing.
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My first foray into the world of supple(r) tires (after trying a few different
breeds of Marathons) is with the 35c Soma New XPress tires. They feel good to
me and I run them at 65-70psi or thereabouts. They're folders as well, which is
a nice touch. 35c in the Soma is noticeably bigger than
You might want to look at the Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Road tires - they are 700x43
http://www.bgcycles.com/rock-n-road-tire.html
Regards,
Bruce Gordon
On Jan 21, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Jim Mather wrote:
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 4:01 PM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey folks
Just wondering what
Yes, that was a hard day (not the hardest of the ride) but oh my, how beautiful.
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On Jan 21, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Jim Mather mather...@gmail.com wrote:
Definitely an epic ride! My legs burn just thinking of all that
Cleaning out last Sugino XD-2 175mm Crankset with low miles $75 shipped
see photo
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/8403977496/in/photostream
also brand new pair non tour guard 32mm skinwall Pasela's $45 shipped
contact me offline if interested.
~mike
Carlsbad Ca.
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You
A good day to remember; I am dreaming of the time I will ride it.
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:40 PM, campyonly...@me.com wrote:
Yes, that was a hard day (not the hardest of the ride) but oh my, how
beautiful.
--Eric Norris
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Thanks JimD
On Sunday, January 20, 2013 12:39:17 PM UTC-5, JimD wrote:
Nicely written!
Thanks,
JimD
On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Iron Rider 1000...@gmail.com wrote:
For those who may be interested here's a link to a blogpost about by test
ride of my A.H.H.
Michael,
As I think others have pointed out, there is a link to a geometry
chart for Riv's models at the bottom of the frames page.
If you compare the numbers for same sizes I think the rodeo has less
bb drop (i.e. higher bb), shorter chainstays, steeper seat tubes, and
less fork rake. The rodeo
Beginning to price out a new AHH before the frames go up and I'm using this
bike for a variety of purposes one of which is commuting. I don't like clips or
pant protectors or special pants so I thought about one of these.
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/chrg.htm
Anyone else do this on their
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