Also, the data were cherrypicked. For some reason, the number of helmeted
riders who died was up sharply in 2010, 2011 and 2012. But the pie chart
left out 2011 and 2012. And what is going on with that rise? The total
cyclist deaths stayed about the same. Maybe some type of riders started
wearing
I was down in the Bay Area for my every six weeks visit, and was able to
wrangle together a posse for an overnight at China Camp. I was also able to
fit in a visit to RBW to get some bigger shoes for my California bike,
Winkie. Turns out he fits 650B x 54s too.
Pictures prove I almost spent waaay
Beautiful set up.
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I'm of the camp that wears a helmet. I'm keeping the one I trashed this winter
when I slipped and washed out on the slime of condensation and salt drippings
from cars in the parking garage at work. I was rattled but fine to go on, when
home and examining the helmet, it clearly snapped at an
I would love to see the same chart for car wrecks. Walking deaths. Stair falls.
For biking in the Netherlands.
I know a guy who was in a bike crash. He lived, with no head injury. He was not
wearing a helmet. I'm not convinced that is why he lived, with no head injury,
but it is a correlation.
The data is irrelevant. It doesn't matter how many helmets you're wearing
if you go head-to-head with an automobile in a collision. But by yourself
on a bicycle, 12 mph with just the wrong impact will kill you. All of us
are going to flip our bikes at some point. Wearing a helmet then will
Beautiful road - thanks for the photos.
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:13:52 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
Patrick, it looks a great ride. I enjoy seeing photos of spring rides in
other parts of the country.
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Sold! Thank you!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 6:55:17 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
1 pair, slight wear on the center tread, plenty of life life. Near new.
$70 shipped.
Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157644305916249/
With abandon,
Patrick
Sold as a lot, $55 for the both pairs, including shipping. I received these
with my Quickbeam and if they were put on a bike they were hardly ridden at
all. Like new condition. Grip Kings have the box.
Photo:
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Here's a counter-link:
http://www.vox.com/2014/5/16/5720762/stop-forcing-people-to-wear-bike-helmets
At this point, I think it's more important that we encourage people to
bike, rather than scaring them out of biking. That alone will help
awareness and hopefully change transportation
I agree that the data are irrelevant-- but, the reason that I wear a helmet
is that if I'm in a collision, then I don't want the excuse to-be the
cyclist wasn't wearing a helmet.
In virtually all of the bike/auto collisions covered in the Boston-area
media, there's a statement Cyclist was/was
Mounted Stampede Pass tires on my road bike two weeks ago. ~50 mile mixed
MUP and road riding yesterday.
Wow! These replaced 700x30 Grand Bois Extra Leger. Difference was notable
nonetheless. Smoother, faster, more comfortable. There is a gravel path
that runs beside the MUP for a few
The EMTs I know refer to riders without helmets (and here we are talking
riders out where there is traffic) as organ donors. Yes, it's a choice,
and you shouldn't be forced either way. Having fallen at 13 mph and been
surprised with how hard my head whipped down and struck the asphalt
(wearing a
Great looking commuter!
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On Monday, May 19, 2014 12:49:51 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote:
A while ago, I asked about commuting with Rivendell's and this is the
thread on that.
Done, Faith Incarnate :) No fees to you.
May the Lord bless you and keep you this day, brother.
Bruce
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Sold as a lot, $55 for the both pairs, including shipping. I received
these with my Quickbeam and if they were put
Sold! Thank you, Bruce! May God startle you with joy!
With abandon,
Patrick
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I'm so glad your Sam has come together for you! That's an amazing feeling
when you get things dialed in, isn't it? Enjoy!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 10:49:51 PM UTC-6, blakcloud wrote:
A while ago, I asked about commuting with Rivendell's and this is the
thread on that.
I think we can all agree that just being reasonable about this whole thing
is at least somewhere to start. To wit, VIA Bike Snob
http://www.kentreporter.com/news/258036131.html
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Bruce Herbitter
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The EMTs I know refer to riders
http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/33119301/170136654.0_standard_755.0.jpg
my, what a confident, dashing, GQ-catalog-tv-personality-quality idiot.
On Monday, May 19, 2014 8:42:50 AM UTC-5, Eunice Chang wrote:
Here's a counter-link:
I do not wear a helmet. I learned early on riding the Hunqapillar that the
subtle weight and movement of the helmet on my head really messes with my
vertigo. I experienced an amazing sense of freedom through Grant's take on
helmets (aka they aren't the magic most think they are), which allowed
I think Edwin is on the track of the right question: exactly how dangerous
is cycling? From the statistics I've read, not that dangerous, less
dangerous than walking, IIRC.
Is cycling more dangerous than skiing? Do skiiers wear helmets? What about
people showering in poreclain-covered bathtubs?
You are all welcome. I wish I were a better photographer. The little green
tunnels look prettier in reality than they do in my iPhone photos.
Interesting. Our bosque is beautiful, but perhaps much of its beauty is,
almost, by contrast with the surrounding desert. Now desert has its own
beauty,
Patrick, thanks for bringing up skiing/snow sports:
From NYT
(http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/01/sports/on-slopes-rise-in-helmet-use-but-no-decline-in-brain-injuries.html?_r=0):
Although skiers and snowboarders in the United States are wearing helmets
more than ever — 70 percent of all
Hello! I have a practically brand new 52cm Bosco Bar (nitto). 25.4 diam that I
will not be using.
Bought from Riv for $93+ tax
$75 (incl shipping)
Its a super comfy bar for sure!
Thanks and happy pedaling,
Beth
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My go-to LBS is ModSquad bicycles at 115th and Frederick Douglas. They
have a wide array of bikes, including some by Handsome as well as others.
Cheers,
Tim C.
New York, NY
On Saturday, May 17, 2014 9:21:13 PM UTC-4, Kainalu wrote:
Bike Works down South of your niece had a
The frame was designed as a 'semi-relaxed road bike' with clearances up to
700x35 w/o fenders.
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 10:00:21 PM UTC-5, stoker wrote:
Hello all –
I listed this Frame/Fork/HS and FD a while back and had some interest but
then I chickened out. I have finally come to the
DP - I'd look to replace the brake cable housing and ferrules.
Jon in Phila
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I am 100% against helmet laws.
That is not 100% against helmets, just against the laws which require
persons to wear them.
I wear my helmet every time I ride on a pay-to-play ride where they require
them. Past that I'll take some fresh air thank you.
The pie chart really just makes me laugh.
I have my Quickbeam's front CR720 yoke set up fairly high, and with Koolstop or
Yokozuna pads. The original crappy Shimano low-profile cantis had the yoke
almost resting on the M12 rack's center post. So maybe a 2 inch difference?
Just measured - my Tektro CR720 straddle cable yoke is 6 cm
I (a helmet wearer) think of wearing helment in 3 different ways.
1. it has proven working for me personally in 2 occasions; both times the
helmet cracked but my skull remained intact; they were medium-speed
collision, once when I ran into the back of a dump truck and fell to the
ground,
Actually, this study was seriously flawed and it was pulled from
governmental websites for this reason. I still wear a helmet, but this BS
study (and others like it by other auto insurance companies) is an effort
to make biking look VERY DANGEROUS so that you will drive your car (and buy
So what would a Rivendell designed helmet look like, I wonder? Those early
leather football helmets maybe? (Think Coneheads)
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Doug Williams salg...@minbaritm.comwrote:
Actually, this study was seriously flawed and it was pulled from
governmental websites for
Sold!
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Hi Patrick,
I love the pics of the wind in the wild.
I noticed the brake cable housing wasn't taped to the albastaches. If
you're experiencing squishiness, it could be that the cable housing is
moving quite a bit and contributing to the feel. If this is the case, I
would guess that your rear
Well, the rains around the Mid-Atlantic postponed Friday's scheduled Bike to
Work Day, so today was it in little Delaware. I took my most recent build, my
single speed Bombadil with some unusual details, on my longest commute route,
mostly on trails (a combination of pavement, gravel and
I was wondering the same thing.
Who sells a helmet that is:
- MUSA
- Reusable or repairable (eek!)
- made from a material thought to be out of date but that offers superior long
term durability
- Values practicality classic aesthetic over performance and space age
aesthetic
- Is lugged
- Is
Cinelli Leather Hairnet. Black. Period.
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 12:52 PM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote:
I was wondering the same thing.
Who sells a helmet that is:
- MUSA
- Reusable or repairable (eek!)
- made from a material thought to be out of date but that offers superior
long
I remember my little brother at age 4 on his old-fashioned, 20 wheel, high
and tippy tricycle, sprinting down our concrete driveway (which had a
slight slope), going for gold. Not invariably but very often he'd gradually
tip over forward and sideways and, since he had a big head on a stick body,
I'm thinking about a S24O over the weekend on the CO. Has anyone ridden
it recently? Can you report on the conditions? With all the rain we've
had the last few weeks, would like to know what kind of shape the towpath
is in, thanks for any help!
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Bicycles in our country are still an anomaly on the road, unlike the other
countries mentioned here, where a significant bicycle contribution to
traffic is the norm. You need to do everything you can to alert drivers of
your presence - Blinkies - and to protect yourself - helmet. But back to
Th,is is the one I put on the tandem:
http://www.acecosportgroup.com/shop/k-edge-chain-catchers.html
More expensive but more elegant too. I've used one with a hose clamp and
plastic cover which was cheap enough and worked OK.
I find, especially with triples, that sooner or later something
Trade found. Thank you!
With abandon,
Patrick
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Patrick, my apologies for being so slow about this. Here are some shots:
https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A2Gf693ZGJjHyX
These were taken before I put the Grand Bois Cerf tires on took the front
rack off. Since then I went back to a Selle Anatomica saddle and now use a
nice old Rhode
This is why eat more turkey:
http://www.tylervigen.com/view_correlation.php?id=989
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:01:50 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
Came across this as I was following links from a post in my Twitter feed.
Let the debate begin. FWIW, I wear a helmet when I ride.
sorry
cant get member email addresses
i need one gripster pedal but not quite 40$ worth
if you dont find a better offer i am could offer a bit less
thanks
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Thanks, Mike -- very pretty bike. I just got the Phil spindle replaced with
a 103 for the 7410 crankset (hope Stevie's hammer method was appropriate)
and ordered a nice pair of Simplex Retrofrictions from a listmember for
mine. Hope to assemble this week. Will post photos, too.
On Mon, May 19,
I don't like wearing helmets, but I do wear a helmet at night when I need
to give a quick blast to drivers who are entering a traffic circle or at a
stop sign getting ready to pull out onto the road to alert them of my
presence so they don't broadside me. There is no way to tell if they
Based on the evidence it I think it's hard to say what to do because there
is so much conflicting evidence.
However, this site has lots of good info: http://www.bhsi.org
I recently read an article on that site (can't seem to find it now though)
where they describe using caution in ascribing
Great looking ride.
Was it H.L. Menken who said a bad day fishing is better than a good day at
the office! Lots of people make the mistake of picking up a beater to
commute on. It's been 3 1/2 years since I retired and I still have good
memories of my commute, which, like yours was about an
Tom, you continue to astound me with your aesthetics and bike set-ups.
Love to hear more about those rims and why you set up the Bmbadil as a
single!
xo RCW (where it's raining cats and dogs today)
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Additional questions: Are those the rims from your A.N.T.? And did you do
a serious beauty make-over of your black stealth Bombadil?
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Amen to this! I was commuting 15 miles each way on beaters when my '03 Curt
Goodrich custom was hanging on the wall gathering dust. I had local builder
Dave Porter add Campy 1010s, fix-ified it, and commuted on it for 2 years,
with great pleasure. It's still my errand bike of choice.
Mencken also
There have been thousands of years of non-helmeted humans riding on
horseback.
I wonder why they never thought to use helmets? Unless they wore them under
their cowboy hats.
I think in horse riding the only folks who use helmets are the show horse
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Many equestrians wear helmets. I rode by a gathering of horses and their people
a week ago, and many (most? I didn't get an accurate count) of the riders were
wearing helmets. It's a long way to fall when you're on a horse, and they were
riding out in the country where it would easy to hit a
When I see equestrians on the trail they are usually wearing helmets.
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
Many equestrians wear helmets. I rode by a gathering of horses and their
people a week ago, and many (most? I didn’t get an accurate count) of the
I am curious as to why helmeted horse riding didn't come about until the
1900's(?), when there were thousands of previous years of un-helmeted horse
riding, except for armour-ed combat on horseback.
So, in modern society, I wonder why we are so safety conscious about
helmets in cycling
easy, because you can take your chances or improve your odds.
On Monday, May 19, 2014 6:08:23 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
I am curious as to why helmeted horse riding didn't come about until the
1900's(?), when there were thousands of previous years of un-helmeted horse
riding, except for
Deek, you truly are blessed! You keep posting these trade requests and I'm
like Ha! He's never going to find someone willing to trade *THAT* for
*THAT*, but every time I'm wrong. Shows what I know. Clean living,
paying off for the Deek!
On Monday, May 19, 2014 1:10:28 PM UTC-7, Deacon
Very nice condition. These are the ones that work with calipers and cantis.
$30 shipped
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Benefits of worrying about this stuff? Longer lifespans!
With few exceptions, 30,000 days is the average human lifespan - 40,000 if
you're lucky. However, two-thousand years ago average life expectancy was less
than 20 years or about 7,000 days. It is difficult to imagine, but most of our
Yes, cyclists don't wear helmets in Europe and Asia...and they ride much
more than we do. Studies have repeatedly shown that helmet laws and even
volunteer wear a helmet campaigns REDUCE ridership. Reduced ridership
makes the remaining cyclists less safe. It is well established that
increased
Man is always seeking the cause of everything . Assigning praise and
blame with the whim of the wind .
What's done is never done as it appears to be being done. And those who
are doing , are never doing what appears as doing.
A bit mystical these words ?
Not really , not really in
PS- when I was in China last year visiting relatives, I asked my
bike-commuting cousin why noone wore helmets. She said because it is too
hot there.
The city I was in had cyclists un-helmeted, driving
any-which-way-but-loose, in close quarters with cars.
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Oooom! (Aum)
Just teasing you, Garth.
Patrick Moore
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What's done is never done as it appears to be being done. And those who
are doing , are never doing what appears as doing.
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I am indeed richly blessed. I try to make the trades within parity for both
parties. Hopefully I haven't stepped out of bounds.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, May 19, 2014 5:12:40 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Deek, you truly are blessed! You keep posting these trade requests and
I'm
I have a set of Boscos on order at my LBS, but they're taking forever to
arrive. I hadn't thought about a shorter stem, but based on all your
descriptions, it absolutely makes sense that it might make a difference. You
guys are the best!
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Cecily,
My general rule when making changes is to change one thing at a time and
see how that works, then isolate what still needs to be changed. Of course,
I break that rule far too often, but it sure makes cause and effect easier
to sort. So I'd start with the Boscos, see how they go, and
What he said.
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Cecily,
My general rule when making changes is to change one thing at a time and
see how that works, then isolate what still needs
Actually Phillip - your experience is consistent with the theory of
cantilever brakes. AUSHTA.
Here's the link from Sheldon's site:
http://sheldonbrown.com/cantilever-geometry.html
I seem to recall another site posted in this group or on the old Rivendell
list where you could fiddle with the
Anyone own a Sam *and* a Hilsen *and/or* a Roadeo and care to tell how
they feel compared to the ride of the Sam?
Is there a big diff in the ride?
Just curious.
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This is the site you are looking for:
http://www.circleacycles.com/cantilevers/
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Corwin ernf...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually Phillip - your experience is consistent with the theory of
Och! Now my head hurts! Though, to be fair about it, there may be other
causes for it. Sardonic grin.
With abandon,
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Yeah, serious. I just play around with high vs. low and see how it goes :-)
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Och! Now my head hurts! Though, to be fair about it, there may be other
I probably won't puke, but...if I hear I that wearing a helmet won't help
you in an accident, will cause neck injury, or are actually more dangerous
than not wearing one I'llprobably go for a bike ride!
On Monday, May 19, 2014 4:21:07 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote:
Yes, cyclists don't
A wonderful build. Enjoy in good health.
~Hugh
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:49:51 PM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote:
A while ago, I asked about commuting with Rivendell's and this is the
thread on that.
Well it's still a mystery. I used some callipers to measure the BB in my
frame, it's 114 from end-to-end and my rings bottom out on the frame before
the BB taper even starts to make full contact. Using the instructions on
the white industries website, they'd have me running a spindle over 140,
Chris,
Your overnight looks awesome. Your peeps up in Oregon had a pretty
spectacular ride by the looks of it. Smith Rock State Park looks like a
must visit.
I love the fact that you have a bike all set up in SF for your visits.
~Hugh
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:27:30 PM UTC-7, Christopher
Found this all-original 1983 Fuji Touring Series on eBay
What a beautiful find! Love the chromed fork crown. I worked in a Fuji
shop in the late 70's/early 80's, and my first bikes were Fuji's. One of
these days I'm going to restore my old Fuji America that's gathering dust
in my father's
Bo,
You sure you are not interested in Grip Kings? I bought a nice set of wheels
from you for a good price and I am sure we could work out something.
Chris
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Great post, cool build. I'm glad the commuting on a Riv has been so satisfying.
Those ergon grips have been intriguing me for a while. I recently put some hi
mileage on my albatross bars and ended up with some left forearm and hand
numbness. Those might be worth checking out!
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sold.
On Monday, May 19, 2014 4:13:41 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:
Very nice condition. These are the ones that work with calipers and cantis.
$30 shipped
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I was on the GAP Thursday thru Saturday and ran into a couple of riders that
came from DC earlier that week. They may have still been shell shocked by the
deluge but none of then had anything good to say about the CO conditions.
Seems like the weather should clear and hopefully dry it out a
it's ME101
On Monday, May 19, 2014 7:43:24 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Och! Now my head hurts! Though, to be fair about it, there may be other
causes for it. Sardonic grin.
With abandon,
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That's the issue, I think...noone really knows if it helps or hurts, as of
2014.
As of May 2014 seems like no one can prove it helps or hurts
conclusively...only anecdotes and conflicting research results so far...One
must decide for oneself to wear or not to wear...
Weird thing is
Wow! Custom badges, and Rivved out Rockhopper. Far out!
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