Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

2015-08-30 Thread Reid
But getting back to the original subject, the Appaloosa, can anyone compare it to known Riv models? One description on the web site says it's like an Atlantis with upsloping head tube. So does that mean Atlantis weight tubing rather than AHH weight tubing? Specs that allow for drop bars? Mostly

[RBW] Re: Decisions, decisions.

2015-08-30 Thread Garth
As a bit a weather junkie myself , I go to various radars all the time . Being just East of you we know how often it rains/snows here , the Northwest US has no corner on rainy/snowy/cloudy days ! Countless times though these green blobs on radar turn out to be just light rain and/or

[RBW] Re: Decisions, decisions.

2015-08-30 Thread ascpgh
Chose the commuter for visibility and downpour control, I'll see how that works. Pictures as appropriate. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 6:03:01 AM UTC-4, ascpgh wrote: Here I sit looking at the news and having coffee and some breakfast before the local bike advocacy

[RBW] Decisions, decisions.

2015-08-30 Thread ascpgh
Here I sit looking at the news and having coffee and some breakfast before the local bike advocacy group's big urban ride and the green blob is coming. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j2HYcuq1YQk/VeLSFHboayI/Cf4/UYsnugtrYE8/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2015-08-30%2Bat%2B5.48.02%2BAM.png I

[RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-08-30 Thread Doug Williams
UPDATE: Ride with GPS reports that it has been 611.8 miles since I converted my Babyshoe Pass EL's on my tubeless ready Pacenti SL23 rims to tubeless. So I suppose I should give a midterm performance update. Short version: ZERO flats! Wonderful! Great! Should have done it sooner! If you

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

2015-08-30 Thread Lungimsam
I'm holding out for a super light tubing, standard tube width, low trail, canti brake, 650b, carbon brush in the headrube, seat tube taillight braze-on, wireless front dropouts, Rivrandobike. They have done everything but, I think, so far. MTN, all road, road, touring, country, single speed,

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

2015-08-30 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/30/2015 05:03 PM, Lungimsam wrote: I'm holding out for a super light tubing, standard tube width, low trail, canti brake, 650b, carbon brush in the headrube, seat tube taillight braze-on, wireless front dropouts, Rivrandobike. Odds are, you won't get any of that from Rivendell except

[RBW] Next Bomba Tire

2015-08-30 Thread 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch
http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/cazadero-tires-700c650b-x-42mm I have about 1000 miles on the 700 version and I have been extremely happy with the performance on gravel, pavement, and dirt. They are smoother and quieter than the RR. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

2015-08-30 Thread drew
yeah, my understanding is that this is basically a sam with wider clearances and cantis. im trying to remember the conversation i had with them about it and im pretty sure that it's gonna be made by maxway and priced like a sam... then again, i also remember something about it being sold as

[RBW] Re: How to get out Brooks sit bone divets sop the rear frame down;t dig into my rear end.

2015-08-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
I'd fix it by buying a Rivet saddle. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 9:57:34 AM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote: So I have only had this saddle for 10 months and I have divots where the sit bones sit to the point of feeling the rear of the frame dig into my rear end when I ride

[RBW] Re: How to get out Brooks sit bone divets sop the rear frame down;t dig into my rear end.

2015-08-30 Thread Lungimsam
Rivet doesn't make sprung saddles, or I would try one. I emailed them about it. They don't like the weight of a sprung saddle, and they didn't get the appeal of sprung. I like sprung saddles. Just wish the leather shape wouldn't change so easily. Brooks is coming out with a Cambium type

[RBW] Re: How to get out Brooks sit bone divets sop the rear frame down;t dig into my rear end.

2015-08-30 Thread 'velo59' via RBW Owners Bunch
How similar or different is a Brooks Flyer from a Lepper Swiss Army Bike saddle? I've got a Lepper that came with a large lot purchase years ago and I've only ever taken it out of the box to admire. Send me a private message and we can compare saddle dimensions. Jason Cloutier Pawtucket, RI

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

2015-08-30 Thread Ron Mc
It's a very good formula and looks like a great bike. It will probably have a wider market than the proto Appaloosa. On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 1:24:08 PM UTC-5, drew wrote: yeah, my understanding is that this is basically a sam with wider clearances and cantis. ... -- You received

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

2015-08-30 Thread Ron Mc
A Sam by any other name. On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 1:33:23 AM UTC-5, Reid wrote: But getting back to the original subject, the Appaloosa, can anyone compare it to known Riv models? One description on the web site says it's like an Atlantis with upsloping head tube. So does that mean

[RBW] Re: FS: Saddle Wedges - Color Test Bags - $50 shipped - Orange, Maroon, or Tan

2015-08-30 Thread Julian
John, that's a lovely AD Vent Noir! I had one many moons ago -- it's one of the bikes I regret selling. Julian Westerhout Bloomington, IL On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 9:42:14 AM UTC-5, John Wilson wrote: + 1 for David's wedge, highly recommended. John Wilson Greensburg, PA USA On

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

2015-08-30 Thread cyclotourist
Could be. But if this does everything and more, that would be a lot of redundancy. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Daniel D. dddon...@gmail.com wrote: But folks at riv keep on mentioning that the Sam is in fact coming back next year? On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 6:45:21 AM UTC-7,

[RBW] (Somewhat OT): Women's Unracer Bike Shop Opens in Alexandria, VA

2015-08-30 Thread Kevin Lindsey
Apologies if this is too off-topic, but this afternoon I stumbled on Lotus Pedal (www.lotus-pedal.com), a new bike shop that just opened in Old Town Alexandria. It's heavy with Linus and Pashley bikes, pushes Brooks saddles, and is aimed chiefly at the burgeoning women riders market. Amanda,

[RBW] PSA: Dave Moulton coming to the West Coast

2015-08-30 Thread dougP
http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com/ Retired frame builder Dave Moulton arrives in Portland Sept 29 and will be traveling south, departing San Diego Oct 17. He apprenticed in England and eventually built his own frames here. Many years ago I heard him speak and found him to be delightful.

[RBW] Parts cleanout sale

2015-08-30 Thread Anton Tutter
My semi-annual parts cleanout sale. $5 shipping CONUS on each item, or buy three items and get free shipping CONUS. Reply off-list if interested. Photos of everything: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0Bim8tw3tRGfnIyMUlrMi1uNUpaQkY4S3VsWHFwdnA1Sk0zNlFDU3BaQ0h4bG5DWFlRYk0usp=sharing

[RBW] Re: How to get out Brooks sit bone divets sop the rear frame down;t dig into my rear end.

2015-08-30 Thread Zach Duval
Tension and report back? I've had nothing but favorable impressions (pun semi-intended) of my Brooks Select (non-sprung), which I've used regularly a bit longer than a year, other than the damnable dye leaching, which I still haven't solved satisfactorily. . . On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at

[RBW] WTB XXL Butternut Color Shorts

2015-08-30 Thread Amit Singh
Does anyone have a pair laying around that never get used? Private message me. Thank you! Amit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

2015-08-30 Thread Garth
They have not done a production long chainstay frame for individual sale , like the one I linked above, or like Leisl's custom . No, the Clems don't count as they were budgeted as complete bikes only and very limited in sizing. As for low trail , how long can you hold your breath ?

Re: [RBW] How to get out Brooks sit bone divets sop the rear frame down;t dig into my rear end.

2015-08-30 Thread Joe Broach
Lungimsam, In my recent experience (n=6, including B17s Flyers), Brooks below the Champion Special/Select/Pro level are disposable saddles. The leather gives out in a year of hard riding. You can lace/tension/reform, but it'll never be as nice as the models with better leather. That said, report

Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-08-30 Thread cyclotourist
Good report! I'm VERY close to giving up on my non-sealed 700C set up. My ride was ended by goatheads today. Had to call in for support as I was close enough to home to not want to change fix two flats in the blazing hot 100F sun. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Doug Williams

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

2015-08-30 Thread Garth
I hope this is not a new model as there is nothing to me that distinctive , like the other prototype apple-oos-a that has the extra long chainstays and swooping middle tube. That is very unique , the model listed is as it GP says a Sam with some extra clearance . I look forward to

[RBW] Next Bomba Tire

2015-08-30 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Since I got excellent advice on my XO-3 tire questions last week I'll put a slightly different one up today regarding the Bombadil... I'm already pretty sure what I am looking for and am just caught in some paralysis by analysis and/or sticker shock. Primary purpose for this tire set would be

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

2015-08-30 Thread cyclotourist
When a Riv model goes away, it never comes back (Legolas the partial exception). So don't plan seeing a Hillborne anytime soon. But really, why should it come back if the Appaloosa is mostly the same bike but with wider clearances.? I think Sam geometry and a bike w/ wider tires is great

[RBW] Re: How to get out Brooks sit bone divets sop the rear frame down;t dig into my rear end.

2015-08-30 Thread Frank Brose
I tightened the tension bolts on my flyer when the butt divots got larger than I liked. Worked for me. On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 10:57:34 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote: So I have only had this saddle for 10 months and I have divots where the sit bones sit to the point of feeling the rear of

[RBW] Re: Next Bomba Tire

2015-08-30 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Takashi - that sounds like a really interesting post, I'm looking forward to it! Chris - That Bee Line looks sweet, great price to and I'm sure 2.2 would fit reasonably well. Not sure it'll fit fendered which was an unmentioned desire-ment in my post... not sure I want to run fenders since

[RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

2015-08-30 Thread Garth
I for one hope the prototype shown here is not going to be called a new model , as there isn't -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

2015-08-30 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I'm interested to see how the pricing shakes out of these new Riv models... If the Appaloosa ends up looking like this web special why would they ever bring the Sam back in the line up. We've all been conditioned to want wider and wider tires after all. It's a great head badge to!

[RBW] Re: Next Bomba Tire

2015-08-30 Thread Takashi
I recently did a test, in which I rode 6 pairs of 700c tires on a same route and measured time. Thunder Burt, Furious Fred, and Marathon Mondial did good job. Rock n Road was not so good. I will post results later, but it might take some time... Takashi 2015年8月30日日曜日 22時24分36秒 UTC+9 Tony

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

2015-08-30 Thread Daniel D.
But folks at riv keep on mentioning that the Sam is in fact coming back next year? On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 6:45:21 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: When a Riv model goes away, it never comes back (Legolas the partial exception). So don't plan seeing a Hillborne anytime soon. But

[RBW] Re: Next Bomba Tire

2015-08-30 Thread Lungimsam
I like Compass and GB tires. I have never gone EL on them though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Next Bomba Tire

2015-08-30 Thread Chris in Redding, Ca.
Hey Tony, How about this one http://www.jensonusa.com/Bicycle-Tires/WTB-Bee-Line-Race-275-Tire Chris Redding, Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] How to get out Brooks sit bone divets sop the rear frame down;t dig into my rear end.

2015-08-30 Thread Lungimsam
So I have only had this saddle for 10 months and I have divots where the sit bones sit to the point of feeling the rear of the frame dig into my rear end when I ride now. People say these saddles last for 20 years or so. But mine is becoming unrideable at this point. Any advice? It is a

[RBW] Re: Next Bomba Tire

2015-08-30 Thread Garth
FWIW Tony you can buy the Big Ben Performance and all Schwalbe tires online from German websites. Even with the cost of shipping , usually $22 or so, it's a great choice especially if you buy multiple pairs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Next Bomba Tire

2015-08-30 Thread Chad
The German Schwalbe site is showing a new 650b x 50 version of the Marathon Mondial. http://www.schwalbe.com/en/tour-reader/marathon-mondial.html I think I'm going to try these on my first gen Bombadil if they become available in the states. I'm running Quasi-Motos right now and they are

[RBW] Almost OT, Mini Moto vs Neo Retro

2015-08-30 Thread Michael Hechmer
I have decide to get our tandem repainted over the winter and as part of that am considering moving from the Paul's Racer (studded) brakes to either Mini Motos or Neo Retros. I want to increase brake clearance from the 38MM w/fenders of the ctr pulls, which otherwise are great brakes. I

[RBW] Re: Next Bomba Tire

2015-08-30 Thread Justin August
I came here to post the Caz's. I have them on my Saluki and love them. -J On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 10:40:16 AM UTC-7, Tony McG wrote: http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/cazadero-tires-700c650b-x-42mm I have about 1000 miles on the 700 version and I have been extremely happy with

Re: [RBW] Next Bomba Tire

2015-08-30 Thread cyclotourist
It's been mentioned elsewhere, but hard to beat the Thunder Burts for a mixed terrain tire. Come right in @ 50mm. Light, flexible, roll well on road, hook up well on dirt. Wear out pretty fast. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Chad cschoentha...@gmail.com wrote: The German Schwalbe site is

[RBW] Re: (Somewhat OT): Women's Unracer Bike Shop Opens in Alexandria, VA

2015-08-30 Thread Kevin Lindsey
That's Old Town Alexandria, Virginia. On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 6:02:00 PM UTC-4, Kevin Lindsey wrote: Apologies if this is too off-topic, but this afternoon I stumbled on Lotus Pedal (www.lotus-pedal.com), a new bike shop that just opened in Old Town Alexandria. It's heavy with Linus

[RBW] Finally! Chauncey-modified 2003 Curt

2015-08-30 Thread Pondero
It looks great so far! More photos and all your impressions when you have a chance, please. Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Almost OT, Mini Moto vs Neo Retro

2015-08-30 Thread 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch
The mini-moto work very well on my old Santana Noventa; they saves our lives twice on RAGBRAI last year. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Next Bomba Tire

2015-08-30 Thread Jim Bronson
I love Jan's tires but wow $168 is pretty breathtaking. The 4 tires on my car cost $330 out the door with mounting, balancing, tax and road hazard warranty. So about the same per tire, but I'm pretty sure Compass expects you to mount and balance your own tires, and no road hazard warranty is

Re: [RBW] Next Bomba Tire

2015-08-30 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I just picked up 4 of the new pari-moto's for $30-something via Boulder bikes and thought it was a deal... your ebay link makes me want to do a lifetime buy! :) I just ordered four new tires for my car this week to... $300 shipped w/ an $80 rebate which should cover the mounting/balancing.

[RBW] Chauncey-modified 2003 Curt

2015-08-30 Thread Lungimsam
How many is bulk and are you getting a discounted price? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: Almost OT, Mini Moto vs Neo Retro

2015-08-30 Thread Justin August
I don't think that the Mini-Moto will gain you much clearance, realistically. Mud clearance, yes. Stopping power, perhaps. For more clearance you'd be better off with the Moto-lites or the more traditional cantis. However, with the Moto-lites you'd have to get the correct pull levers. I

[RBW] mid-Virginia overnighter

2015-08-30 Thread 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch
On August 29-30, 2015, I did this solo overnighter using a modified version of Meade Anderson's Lee's Retreat ride, along the lightly-used Civil War motor route. The new 55cm black cream Sam Hillborne tourer with a new front HAR performed in an exemplarily fashion! I left Farmville, Va.

[RBW] Re: Next Bomba Tire

2015-08-30 Thread Mike Schiller
I've been running the Panaracer Comets on my 650B campeur/all rounder. They come in a 2 size which measure 48mm on my Dyads. Not as supple as the Thunder Burts but longer wearing and fairly smooth on pavement for a knobby tire. Not too heavy at 580 gms. The Bee lines are pretty slow on

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

2015-08-30 Thread Lungimsam
Well, they gotta know there's a big market for it. Lotsa lugged Rando builders around these days in the USA. Randonneuring seems to be exploding in the USA. I think in this years PBP, the USA had more riders than any other country except France. Riv could go Taiwan or Toyo and undercut the

Re: [RBW] Chauncey-modified 2003 Curt

2015-08-30 Thread Patrick Moore
No, bulk is casual and imprecise jargon for more than 1 pair. I bought 2 from an early offer, then 5 more, all at retail. I may buy several more pairs to stock up. 2 bikes worth with a 3d wheel for one of the bikes. Odd number because I rotate front to rear and replace the front with a new one.

Re: [RBW] Chauncey-modified 2003 Curt

2015-08-30 Thread Lungimsam
I'm still deciding on if I like Loup 38 or Cypres 32 650bGB/Compass tires before I buy a bunch for the long term. Hetres ride great, but don't allow fender clearances I am comfortable with on my Sam or Bleriot. I think the 38 and 32s ride just as nice. Less weight. Easier to get between the

Re: [RBW] Next Bomba Tire

2015-08-30 Thread Patrick Moore
I forget what I paid for the cars on my 2006 PT Cruiser. It may have been as much as $400 for 4 since I bought them through my mechanic who got them from some chain -- I just asked him to do a turnkey. But I suppose overall they'd cost what you paid if I went to, say, Costco and asked for 4

Re: [RBW] Chauncey-modified 2003 Curt

2015-08-30 Thread Lungimsam
Patrick, does your Schmidt headlight wire run inside the front rack tube? Got a pic of where it pops out? Nice racks!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: Going to be in SF, looking for the Rivendell Experience

2015-08-30 Thread Manuel Acosta
Go for both. See if u can test ride a bike from BBH or from HQ. Plenty of food dinner options around the area. Good riding 15 minutes away. I was thinking of heading over there tomorrow afternoon after work. Maybe if I can convince the wife. PM if you around the area. Manny On Friday,

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Sample Appaloosa is pretty sweet

2015-08-30 Thread Justin August
Many things can be said about Riv and GP but responding to the market and following others' leads aren't some of them! -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Chauncey-modified 2003 Curt

2015-08-30 Thread Patrick Moore
Sorry, the photos should be viewed thus: 5, 1, 2, 3, 4. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, does your Schmidt headlight wire run inside the front rack tube? Got a pic of

Re: [RBW] Next Bomba Tire

2015-08-30 Thread Lungimsam
Wow. The GB/Compass prices are getting scary. Don't know what I'll do for fast 650b tires if they go up much more. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Mark Nobilette Frame ( small) and Fork for sale

2015-08-30 Thread Manuel Acosta
O. Pictures? On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 7:42:13 AM UTC-7, Santosh Iyer wrote: 1986 columbus SL lugged in excellent condition ( almost NOS, built once barely ridden) . 49 cm st and 54 cm tt. Black with white decals. I have an email from Mark himself confirming the provenance.