Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

This thread is gold. My two cents... - cans > bottles for this and every application. Can’t remember the last time I purchased bottles. - yes, straps over bungees. But basket + net for the win. - I’m intrigued by Triscuits + Crystal hot sauce. Might one substitute Tabasco? I feel it must be v

[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?

I'm sure you still can, it's just not going to be promoted anymore because the price and wait got too close to "shoot, I might as well buy a custom." I predicted a good while ago that we would end up here, the production MUSA frames just weren't making sense anymore. -- You received this mess

Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

Rubber bungees. And, for a while now I've been thinking there should be RATCHETING STRAPS made on a scale for bikes. Better than cinching, ratcheting can't be beat. Does it exist? On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 11:35:44 PM UTC-4, Ray Varella wrote: > > Chicharrones are what inspired commercial

[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?

Damn. Wish I had ordered one. On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 11:00:55 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > It sure looks gone to me, the metamorphosis to all MIT production Rivs is > almost complete. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" gr

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

Thank you for the feedback. I wish the Jones was easier to test ride, but not many shops carry it. However, my in-laws do live near Talent so I might have to swing by. The more I ride the Joe, and now that I have Boscos on it, the more I like the fat tire, long chainstay design. Of course t

Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

Chicharrones are what inspired commercially produced pork rinds. The carniceria up the street makes them two ways, one is similar to pork rinds, the other has more skin and meat. Those are better for simmering with your beans or dicing up and sprinkling on top. Ray -- You received this messa

Re: [RBW] Atlantis ~ 1999

Wildly appropriate as long as it isn’t geared to high. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To pos

[RBW] Is the Roadeo gone?

It sure looks gone to me, the metamorphosis to all MIT production Rivs is almost complete. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

I've never tried Triscuits and hot sauce; I've got a pint bottle of Louisiana hot sauce (and a pint of Sriracha, for that matter) so I should buy a box. And I confess I've never tired chicharonnes. Must look out for some. On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:27 PM, Ray Varella wrote: > I would never talk

[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?

According to the geometry page it should fit 700x35: https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry mike austin tx On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 9:45:18 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote: > > I was looking for the Roadeo on the Riv site, and couldn't find it. I am > thinking of going to a Compass tubeless t

[RBW] Re: Slightly OT: Route 66

If you're a trout fisherman on the return drive east, you hit Cottonwood Campground (San Juan and Simon Canyon), Durango, Conejos, Chama, Brazos, Costilla, and head south along the Mora. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Is the Roadeo gone?

I was looking for the Roadeo on the Riv site, and couldn't find it. I am thinking of going to a Compass tubeless tire in a 700x35 size and was wondering if it would fit my 59cm Roadeo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To uns

[RBW] Re: Slightly OT: Route 66

If you are heading towards Reno from the Bay Area, before you get to Donner Summit, there is a town called Nyack. Park there and ride through Emigrant Gap till you get past Sugar Bowl Ski Resort. A bit further up the road, the view opens up to see Donner Lake. There’s lots of Granite Boulders t

Re: [RBW] What’s the largest cassette

FYI - An 11-speed Shimano mountain cassette will fit on a 9-sp hub. But then you'd also want an 11-sp derailer and shifter. Not all that expensive, IMHO. I just made the switch on my non-Riv mtb. On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 11:20:05 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote: > > Yep, the 8- and 9-speed XT rea

[RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

I would never talk anyone out of their pork rinds but triscuit crackers flooded with crystal hot sauce go great with cold beer. The basketweave pattern in the cracker holds copious amounts of the hot sauce and you sort of slurp it out of the cracker before you chew it. Pork rinds go great with

Re: [RBW] Atlantis ~ 1999

Can you see your bike when you're riding it? :) On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 9:11:18 PM UTC-4, Adam in Indiana wrote: > > Not an Atlantis, but I have an SLX 1x11 drivetrain I'm planning on putting > on my Sam Hillborne... Not sure how the modern 4-arm black crank is gonna > look with the frame,

Re: [RBW] Atlantis ~ 1999

Not an Atlantis, but I have an SLX 1x11 drivetrain I'm planning on putting on my Sam Hillborne... Not sure how the modern 4-arm black crank is gonna look with the frame, but I was planning on posting a few pictures when it's all done so everyone can judge. On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 8:33:3

[RBW] Re: Inbound commute via Sackville Street

Shoji, Always fun to come across a sign that has a meaning beyond it's intended use. Your AHH looks really smart too! Earlier this year I came across this sign in a deep valley in the North Moors National Park in England. It had a Rivendell feel for me. The name, the landscape; I don't know bu

[RBW] Riv bags for sale on website

I think they're redesigning certain models, and old designs are being moved out in anticipation. I might be wrong too, but that's what I've gathered through conversations with staff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsu

[RBW] Re: Carradice Bags for sale

All bags have sold. Thanks to all who made purchase! Steve On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 6:20:09 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote: > > > > Hello Bunch,

[RBW] FS/FT: Brooks, Albatross, Technomic, Patagonia, Zefal, Sunrace, Jandd,

Lil bump. Still have all of this excluding the Clem hat. Offers welcome too -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@goog

[RBW] google group recommendations

Joe, It is “Bicycle Lifestyle”; still around but gets less traffic than some of the others mentioned. It’s a great resource for questions and issues with dynamo lights. Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe f

[RBW] Re: Slightly OT: Route 66

If you plan to stay a night or two in Santa Fe then I can recommend the 'rail-trail' that heads south from the historic Santa Fe depot to the town of Lamy. Mix of paved multi-use path and hardpack dirt. http://brokenspokesantafe.com/trails/ Lots of other good suggestions on the link-- Rail

[RBW] Riv bags for sale on website

Or more accurately, not for sale. Was just on the shop website and was amazed at how the majority of bags are either out of stock or discontinued. I have more bags than a normal human should own but I always liked their offerings. I recall some talk a while back about the maker retiring or some

[RBW] Re: Slightly OT: Route 66

I have advice in the form of a film that I haven't watched yet. This is a risky recommendation because some of our list members are extremely offended by the marketing stylings of Rapha, but here goes: outskirts This film appears to be

[RBW] FS: 61cm A. Homer Hilsen - Frame + Fork + Headset or Almost Complete

Hi all, Continuing on my (slow) downsizing project, I've decided to sell my 61cm Waterford built AHH. The bike is in excellent condition with just a few paint chips. - Frame, fork & DuraAce headset: $ 1,000 + shipping via Bike Flights While the bike is still assembled, I can include: - Sugino XD2

[RBW] Slightly OT: Route 66

My son & I are a few days away from a road trip to the West Coast. We are taking our bikes & my plan is to do some riding!!! Heading out of Dallas I plan on hitting Palo Duro Canyon, Santa Fe, Sadona, gradually making our way up to the Fresno area & then a few days in the bay area. Including Rep

[RBW] google group recommendations

Peter White used to have one, Bicycle Life or BL, but I can't find it now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@goog

Re: [RBW] Should I be concerned?

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:55 AM, Doug Van Cleve wrote: > I should have mentioned that RBW bikes in general are pretty sturdy and I > would ride it without concern. You might consider getting the frame/fork > alignment checked, although if it steers and tracks normally it probably > won't buy you

[RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

Ah, but by the time I lose four black straps I’ve more than paid for the Irish color tax which allows them to be seen without being annoying. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this gr

[RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

Thanks all for the suggestions for grimly and ascetically cheap, Amazon-sourced, ski-purposed, or stretch system alternatives, but I am part Irish and thus love Bulgarian straps, and besides, would prefer to support Rivendell despite its Bay-area prices. -- You received this message because you a

Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

"Ray: Thanks, I'm sold on the Bulgarian straps; and at only $8, they're True Value-cheap." Bah! and you call yourself a cheapskate? $8 each is a king's ransom. Any real spendthrift/skinflint would substitute a Coughlan's Arno strap for an Irish strap or a Bulgarian strap. Arno straps are cl

Re: [RBW] What’s the largest cassette

Yep, the 8- and 9-speed XT rear derailleurs can accommodate a 36t cog. If you want even lower gearing, you could fit a 40t cog by adding a Wolftooth Roadlink. Sunrace makes 11-40 9-speed cassettes. On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Forrest Harvey wrote: > Whatever the largest they make is which

[RBW] Re: Waterford RS12 52cm with TerraFerma fork 700 or 650 plus Mafac brakes

Bruce, congratulations. Looks like you picked up a sweet frame. Smaller frame sizes don’t seem to come up for sale that often (this one would have fit me as well). Have fun with the build. Please do post pictures. Best regards, Rich -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] google group recommendations

I also belong to the “650b” group and “Classic Rendezvous lightweight vintage bicycles“ group. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bu

Re: [RBW] What’s the largest cassette

Whatever the largest they make is which I believe is either a 12-34 or 12-36 On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Carla Waugh wrote: > What’s the largest cassette I can use with a nine speed XT rear der and a > 40 chainring on a 1 x 9? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed t

[RBW] google group recommendations

For some reason my attempted searches for cycling related google groups never result in my finding any. Maybe there are no others that are of interest to a Rivendell and iBob kind of rider. Are there others that RBW Owners Bunch members frequent? Doug -- You received this message because you a

[RBW] What’s the largest cassette

What’s the largest cassette I can use with a nine speed XT rear der and a 40 chainring on a 1 x 9? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owne

[RBW] Re: Should I be concerned?

That's what I was afraid of, I bought it off a guy on the pace line forum. On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 12:12:12 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > The seller owes you money. I hope it wasn't an iBob 'cause - regardless of > how well it survived - that bike definitely got run into something solid.

Re: [RBW] Should I be concerned?

aside from some no-handed shimmy, the bike rides and handles great! But just for piece of mind I think I'll take it to assenmacher to get it looked at. On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 11:55:37 AM UTC-4, Doug Van Cleve wrote: > > I should have mentioned that RBW bikes in general are pretty sturdy a

Re: [RBW] Re: Should I be concerned?

Yeah, hard to tell from photos. But I recommend taking it to a competent shop that can check its alignment. On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 12:30 PM, Jeffrey Marco wrote: > The bottom of the top tube and the down tube look ok to me, no ripples or > cracks. The fork looks bent back slightly. I've looked

Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

I’m going to repeat Voile straps. Damn near I’m real able, stretch enough to cinch down and come in shiny colors! -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

Patrick, you said smooth roads for short distances. I would think that 3 bungee cords would do the trick just fine. I would "X" two of them side to side, and then one longitudinally with the rack. I've found that a pretty good strategy for a box load. -- You received this message because you a

Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

Ana, I find one strap is adequate ... until it isn’t. Grin. On rough roads/trails, one strap, no matter how snug, allows the load to twist around and that can get interesting. Thus, my minimum of two, and adding a third to the seat post when bulkier. I did 40 lbs in my ShopSack this way recently

[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

Has anyone actually tried the very inexpensive version Wald sells for the basket? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr.

[RBW] Should I be concerned?

The seller owes you money. I hope it wasn't an iBob 'cause - regardless of how well it survived - that bike definitely got run into something solid. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop re

[RBW] Ride Report - HHH W&OD Overnighter and Beer Sampling Adventure

Delightful story and photos! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

Re: [RBW] Should I be concerned?

I should have mentioned that RBW bikes in general are pretty sturdy and I would ride it without concern. You might consider getting the frame/fork alignment checked, although if it steers and tracks normally it probably won't buy you anything... Doug On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:48 AM, Doug Van Cle

Re: [RBW] Should I be concerned?

Looks to me like it might have had at least a mild front end collision, although the cracks etc. would generally be on the bottom of the top and down tubes... Maybe a roof rack incident? The BB marks might be from a kickstand, highly unlikely the BB shell has been compromised in any way (IMHO, of

Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

Once you try straps, you’ll never go to bungee cords again. One Irish strap is all you need for this particular load, but #youcanneverhavetoomanyjohnsirishstraps ;) PS - Do get the Captain Hook net. Great for the basket —just like the red one— but in a summery cool color :) -- You received th

[RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

I like NRS straps to secure stuff to the rack. They are sturdy, come in many different lengths and easy to find at places like amazon. https://www.nrs.com/search/?q=tie%20down On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 9:00:26 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Bill's encouragement to buy the basket net le

[RBW] long shot? off topic? WTB 80mm Crust stem

I know there's overlap between RBW owners and Crust owners. Anyone happen to have one of their fillet brazed stems they'r not using? 90 deg or +25. Ideally clear coat https://crustbikes.com/products/fillet-brazed-stem/ https://crustbikes.com/products/80mm-25degree-stem-gloss-black-clear-coat/

Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

Well that's easy. One of the new bungee nets :-) Hugh On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 10:29 AM Patrick Moore wrote: > Even the bungee holdout(s) have agreed that straps are better, and others > have advised straps even for pork rinds, so Irish-Bulgarian straps it is. 2 > latitudinally, 1 longitudinall

Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

Even the bungee holdout(s) have agreed that straps are better, and others have advised straps even for pork rinds, so Irish-Bulgarian straps it is. 2 latitudinally, 1 longitudinally, right? Plus a spare or 2. Now what should I add to bulk up this order? (Whoops, another thread ...) Thanks all! -

Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

The keys to odd loads with multiple loose pieces of varying densities (say you add pork rinds to your beer run) are: 1. Wrap in cloth of some sort, so all the bits help hold each other in place. I’ve used a tarp, but prefer a Shopsack as this zips shut. 2. Secure with with three “slices” of a str

Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

Bungees- I make my own bungee straps with cord and hooks found at my LMS (local marine shop). Allows me to ensure that I have bungees on hand for all occasions in the right length to get the right tension for the intended payload. But cinch strap are still all around better. Hugh On Thu, Jul 19

Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

Ray: Thanks, I'm sold on the Bulgarian straps; and at only $8, they're True Value-cheap. On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:07 AM, Ray Varella wrote: > Patrick, > I’ve used cinch straps (like the Irish straps) for all sorts of large, > awkward and heavier packages. I run two around the box left to right

[RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

Patrick, I’ve used cinch straps (like the Irish straps) for all sorts of large, awkward and heavier packages. I run two around the box left to right and one front to back. Does that make sense? It holds things very securely for post office, farmers markets or work runs. Ray -- You received th

[RBW] Should I be concerned?

Does the Downtube have the same wrinkled paint at the head tube lug? That looks like the result of a crash. Is the fork bent? Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

Sorry, again, to clarify more fully: Box of 12 bottles. Want to plunk on top of rack and strap down somehow without bothering with other bag -- have 2 panniers already. Heck, have 4 panniers and 2 remaining Carradices. I thought of a net, and I've owned one, but it wasn't taut enough to hold a box

[RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

Shopsack or any sack and Irish straps. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

I like cargo nets (bungees, but in net form), as they wrap around everything. If you're carrying bottles, I'd put them in a paper bag and then cargo net them. Probably add an Irish strap for additional peace of mind. Good luck! shoji On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 3:57:41 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moo

[RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

Arkel Tail Rider should hold 12 cans. Has a protective rain cover built in so your rare rain won’t stop you in your quest for hoppy goodness. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Waterford RS12 52cm with TerraFerma fork 700 or 650 plus Mafac brakes

I'm looking forward to it's arrival. Will post pictures after the build. Hoping it will work out as my main brevet bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

I like the idea of 12 small bar bags. But I fear they would cost more than 3 or 4 straps or bungees. So, straps or bungees? (No backpack, thanks. It's a short distance over smooth pavement, so bottles in box on rack is not a problem.) Let's try bungees first, since they're so easy to use. There m