Congrats. That's really cool you found one. Don't beat it up "too" much.
My 2 cents:
- If by "riv stock" you mean nitto, consider using a different, cheap
seatpost for a while. The kid seat will most likely clamp around the post
and mar it up. Not long after that, you'll likely get a trai
On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 6:49:23 AM UTC-7, Max S wrote:
>
>
> Biggest impulse purchase ever, but such an easy riding bike, and fun for
> the whole family! Wanted the sage colorway in size small. Alas, they ran
> out, so we settled on orange in medium — less good, because it’s more
>
That's speaking your peace and countin' to three for certain!
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First production QBs ended up being made by Panasonic, I believe.
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Total speculation:
the QB was conceived as a low cost, utilitarian bike with minimal frills. The
stamped steel dropouts were stong and effective (not to mention ingenious at
the time), but not especially pretty. The FJ was intended to be very much the
opposite.
Plus, manufacturing and desi
Don't beat yourself up, john. You would have only had a 5 second window to get
one anyway. I wonder what it would cost to have Blue Lug ship one.
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So I'm not sure what happened with the delay in the public message here,
but Paul was nice enough to respond and we finished this conversation by
PM. Just wanted to say though that, for anyone considering this, you
should take a good hard look. His bike is gorgeous and, as I told Paul,
it's a
Tom - regarding the 2x chainring wide/low configuration: It's not a
problem at all - you just might need a longer bb spindle. That's what I
have on mine, with a pant guard in the outer position. Fender needed
notching, but tire is fine. One great thing about this setup, that I've
never hea
When I was first building up my 59cm Clem, I used 2.4 Maxis Ardents. I can
only find the few random photos below, though. They fit the frame just
fine but, as you note, the front would likely be too tight with a fender in
use. (Kind of a nitpick of mine actually - that something that is as
If so, could I please see some photos and bother you to take some measurements?
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56cm version of the Clem Smith Jr.; 700c wheels like the 59, but perhaps
slightly shorter chainstays; all-lugged construction. Done.
I know that the Clem was conceived as a 'beater' bike of sorts, but why
shouldn't the bike I ride 75% of the time be my nicest? If/when I do a
custom, this is
On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 8:51:54 AM UTC-7, lconley wrote:
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> I have 22 bicycles, 9 of them Rivs ...
>
Nothing to add to the main disucssion, but DAMN. I thought I was the worst
one here! You're my new hero! (Really)
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On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 5:19:36 PM UTC-7, Dave Grossman wrote:
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> ... The fact that they spec bikes with parts that could have been found 30
> years ago is what makes them endearing.
>
>
^ This is true. However, because I'm the kind of guy who will only buy a
bike that I believ
(Please excuse my sloppy typing and syntax in the above posts. Too much of
a hurry today, and wish there was an edit feature...)
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Grant made comment in the last year or so, that the idea of a "plus" sized,
hunqapillar-ish bike came up several times a year among Riv staff members.
Thought maybe your inquiry was dovetailing with other, ongoing concept
ideas...
On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 2:20:03 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard
Wait - are you saying Roman indicated that this could become a
possibility? I've avoided the temptation of posting to your other thread,
because I have way too many dream bikes / fantasies / wishes. However in
regards to this particular model idea, I'll give an emphatic "yes," but
with the fo
Funny. I use velocity rims as often as possible, because i like to buy
american-made. I bought one custom built, full wheel from them and my customer
service experience was also fantastic. The only reason I've never done it
again is because they only have black hubs. Who are all these people
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 6:32:49 PM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
Call RBW And ask which of their bikes has the thinnest tubing and shortest
> chains stays. I’m no expert but I think
... they will tell you that your priorities are skewed and that you're
shopping at the wrong bike co
René, since nobody has said it yet, thank you for making the effort!
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The Romulus came in a canti version. It was basically an inexpensive
version of the Rambouillet. Not sure how it compared to the Legolas,
weight-wise . I always assumed that since Legolases (Legola? Legoli?)
were/are built-to-order as a cyclocross racing specific bike, that the
tubing was ta
The fact that the Sams are again being offered in a canti version makes
them a hard option to ignore but, if you really want to try the lighter
bike or it is more in lines with your budget, I agree with the minority
here who predict that the Roadini would be perfectly adequate.
For what it's wo
That 57 is still sitting there specifically so that Patrick Moore, who's been
saying for ages that he'd like to get a more road-ish Rivendell singlespeed,
has had every possible opportunity to pull the trigger.
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Yes, measurement is to the TOP of the seat tube or, more accurately, to the top
of the lug measured at the SIDE of the seat tube. (Scalloped shape makes it
confusing.)
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Deacon Patrick, glad you're back! Justin, WOW. Congratulations - daughters are
the best. Merry Christmas, group!
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Glad to hear you pulled the trigger, after all that. Congratulations
On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 2:51:23 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
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> they said its a homer blue and thats what i ordered
>
>>
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I'm just catching up - but that sounds like what i expected to happen with
the 59. Glad I didn't want one, because work would have kept me away at
the crucial moment - not unlike trying to sign my kids up for after-school
clubs. Such a bummer that Grant couldn't get one though.
I'm not sure
>"But with long (and slanted!) track ends, why not fixed? What am I missing?"
I had to read it a couple of times to understand, not being a fixed gear rider.
Basically, he's saying there's too much chance of pedal strikes with such a
low bottom bracket. Think corners without the ability to ke
Assuming the grilver is the same or similar to the first batch of clems and
then cheviots, I'll say it is way better in person. Single handedly made me
like metalic colors again. And, unlike any other riv color i can recall, it
looks equally fantastic with black components or that cheap looking
Thanks for posting. It's interesting reading the old pre-release stuff,
and comparing to how it came out in the end. Did Curt and Joe actually
build the first QBs, or did they go straight to Panasonic? Anybody know?
On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 3:10:10 PM UTC-7, tc wrote:
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> I finally fou
Here it is. Send him a PM.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/tony$20xo-2$20fork%7Csort:date/rbw-owners-bunch/XzUkZ8LS6sM/-f-NvmvBBAAJ
On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 6:28:43 PM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:
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> Seems like there was somebody else recently, on thi
Seems like there was somebody else recently, on this list or the ibob list,
looking for a fork with more clearance and enough steerer tube for a 59cm
XO-2. Tony, perhaps? Maybe somebody else will remember, or I can find the
thread.
On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 8:44:38 AM UTC-7, Conway B
The perforations should allow the tape to breathe and dry out after a ride,
meaning LESS moisture buildup, if anything. I always thought that was the
reason for the perforations in the first place.
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Replacing an axle and adding spacers is ORDINARILY very easy, and that's the
place to get them. The question here is whether or not the suzue hub has a
typical threaded axle with screw-on cone/race that can be transferred, or if it
has some sort of fixed shoulder that's part of the axle. I'd l
I have a set of 26" bolt-on, 120mm suzue hub wheels that i wanted to convert to
QR axles once. When sheldon was alive, he told me that it wasn't practical to
change axles on those suzue hubs, unfortunately. I would assume that swapping
in a longer one would be equally difficult, but don't real
Damn. Gotta be fast around here.
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All of the first gen All Rounders had 26" wheels. Toward the end of the
model's run (early 00s), frames this size and larger moved to 700c. (I think
Grant mainly liked the proportions better.) Prior to that, there just weren't
wide enough tires available for the big wheels. 26" still has a l
Hmmm...
First of all, congrats on the family!
As it turns out, I have a well-used 60cm Quickbeam that I've been
considering putting some love into, including a new paint job. One of the
things that's kept me from doing so is the thought that, if I'm going to go
to the trouble, I should really
( I meant to say R-539 brakes on both of the above instances - not 533 )
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I'm curious about Don's comments regarding tire clearance. Does the Roadeo
really have more chainstay clearance than the Rambouillet? It sure doesn't
look like it in the last thumbnail image currently on the website. I'm also not
sure this is the critical area - I would have guessed that the
ction is similarly flared
outward, EXCEPT that the very end is bent back toward parallel with the
bike frame, to solve the problem I mentioned.
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 8:48:16 AM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:
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> My preference for "normal" dirt drops like the WTB and Nitto ones, i
My preference for "normal" dirt drops like the WTB and Nitto ones, is
aligned with the flare of the bar - so rotated a bit from vertical. Part
of the reason for the flare is that it more closely mirrors the natural
angle of your grip. If you rotate the bar-end shifters vertically, you
have
Give the wider bar some time. I can almost promise that, after you get
used to it, you will never be able to use narrower bars again!
Part of the reason this works is because the new geometries are so much
better than the old NORBA ones.
On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 11:17:05 AM UTC-7,
A suitable pipe cutter is going to be cheaper than the bike shop labor -
especially in these days of Chinese imports. For me, that's always a
no-brainer rationalization for owning a new tool. Next time it will be
free, plus you'll have it available for plumbing projects, too! FYI, using
a p
Damn, I wish this was a 3-Speed. Somebody from the flatter parts of the
country should snag this deal.
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By the way, I think I saw Grant say that the chainstays on the Blue Lug
single speed frames are going to be fillet brazed at the bottom bracket
(?) I'm sure that adds to the cost a bit but, in case anybody doesn't
think it's worth it or is bothered by the idea of a non-lugged connection,
here'
On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 5:37:31 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
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> From what Grant's written about the coming bike.. "• 120 rear spacing, new
> rear dropouts---track style...two eyes for rak & fendr. No der tab. Angle
> like Quickbeam's, long, too." it may work
>
>
>
Judging by the number o
On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 5:55:49 AM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
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> Anyone think this could work? 120mm O.L.D.
> https://janheine.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/hub_gb_hf_5sp_6sp.jpg
>
> Could use spacers and the like if you want to run a true single speed
> setup or could maybe make a 5speed w
Agree that the appaloosa is not comparable, with it's smaller tire clearance.
The ability to fit a 2.5" tire, with fenders, is what sets the clem and hunq
apart.
If one of the clems fits really well, I'd have a hard time telling someone they
would should get a hunq. But don't compromise if it
On Friday, November 10, 2017 at 11:03:50 PM UTC-7, Ian A wrote:
> In that case, why do models like the Rodeo and Blue Lug SS need to have more
> limited clearance than, say the Hillborne, considering they all can use the
> same model of long reach brakes?
>
> IanA/Edmonton Canada where wider tir
You didn't actually ask a question. ;-) But from my observations, I think
Riv has always correlated fatter tires with larger loads. Or at least a
propensity for a rider to try to haul more than they should. So i think that
if a particular model is designed for unloaded, fast riding and uses
Have you considered just buying an additional bike for winter use? In the
end, it might not cost much more, would probably be less hassle, and would
help preserve your precious Hunquapillar by sparing it from harsh winter
riding conditions. Used fat bikes are unbelievably cheap these days. I
You are a true gem, Philip. I learned recently that there is a Rivendell
Owner's page on facebook, too. It's a closed group, so you won't be
broadcasting to all of facebook. Might be worth a try as well.
On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 9:42:43 AM UTC-6, Philip Meyer wrote:
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> Hi All,
>
> I'
I think you've gotten your answer, but wanted to add my vote that you
absolutely want the 52. No question. I think it would be almost perfect, which
makes you very lucky because the limited number of sizes can be a problem. Im
6'1 1/2" with a 87cm pbh, and my 59 is marginally too big. Reach i
Damn, that's a nice looking bike! Looks like it fits well, too. I don't
usually like black components. But that is a tasteful combination.
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Couple more thoughts, Melanie: I'd forgotten about a very short-lived
experiment i did with trigger shifters on an albatross bar. Ironically, on the
same bike i now wish to try boscos on now, i posted pics in this thread a
couple of years ago:
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rbw-own
Clayton, how did you get the clamps past the bend on the choco bar? Could you
share pictures?
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Melanie, do those shifters detach from the mounting clamp? If so, I'm
wondering if something like this would work, on the straight section near the
stem clamp:
https://paulcomp.com/shop/components/sram-shifter-adaptor/
These are 31.8 and possibly sram specific, but i can't believe someone hasn
Second eric's suggestion of the surly open bar. It's kind of awkward looking
too, but a really nice width and shape in use. At least it's 25.4, and you
could always wrap it in bar tape.
SOMA has a new bar called the Osprey, that is available in 25.4 and silver
finish, albeit the cheap "shot
Here's another thought, prompted by eric's comment:
One big issue with larger Surly frames like the 62 you're contemplating, at
least to me, is poor fit due to too-short head tube/stack height. For some
reason, as great as their bikes are, they refuse to proportionally scale these
dimensions
I know it's not quite the same thing, but there's always the option of a white
industries eccentric eno hub. Works on ANY riv frame. There was a blug entry
or reader article or something, that specifically said that this was the reason
Rivendell is unlikey to do any more single speeds (of cour
Remember that Rams had relatively short top tubes - roughly a half cm
shorter than, say, a current Roadeo or Homer of comparable size.
So a 62 ram had a 59 top tube, whereas a current 61 Homer also has a 59 top
tube. And, when you factor in typical tire sizes, the standover height is
1.82cm (3
Your life is pretty damn nice at the moment! Did you think the hunquapillar
was appropriate, and did you miss the ice cream truck at all, for carrying
everything?
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You posted photos as I was typing my question. Thanks again. Indeed, it
looks like the fork crown is STILL the limiting factor. Curious
On Monday, October 2, 2017 at 8:50:41 AM UTC-6, iamkeith wrote:
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>
>
> On Monday, October 2, 2017 at 6:53:38 AM UTC-6, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
On Monday, October 2, 2017 at 6:53:38 AM UTC-6, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
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> Is the tire clearance maxed out with those 2.4's?I recently rode some
> 27.5+ and they were amazing.
>
>>
>> I'm kind of curious about this too - though from a fender-ability
question as much as from a bigger tire
Thank you for posting. It's been hard to get pictures of these. Can you
us what the saddle height is in your photos? Congratulations, btw!
On Sunday, October 1, 2017 at 7:51:57 PM UTC-6, MountNormal wrote:
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> Howdy folks,
> So the 56 650b Hunqapillar arrived! I've attached a couple of pic
I have no idea why, but I have my eye on a Yamaha TW200. "Low & slow,"
lightweight, easy to handle, high floatation tires, seems ideal for exploring
without a lot of impact or obnoxiousness.
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Equinox. Very pretty nonetheless, and makes me jealous. It's already snowing,
here in Wyoming. :-(
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Interesting news fluff story today. I guess the BBH store was just a wee bit
too ahead of its time. Always surprises me, the things that become fashionable:
Bury the Hatchet: The Humble Ax Becomes Hip
http://nbcnews.to/2fbjAuZ
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"It is kinda funny though how one day they recommend this, then another day
they recommend that, and every day is different ! Thank goodness there is only
one this and one that and one day , it keeps things looking "normal" ! 😁"
I think that the big thing that's changed is the quality and supp
Actually, it says free shipping anywhere in US. I looked too, but can't afford
at the moment. You, however, are out of excuses. ;-)
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It's the later, and it is beautifully made. As Riv says, much nicer than
anything you should expect to still find in this day and age.
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Riv built up one of the rosco bubbe bikes with one, and posted pics on the blog
or instagram or something. Perhaps a year or less ago?...
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I use drawstring crown royal bags - for almost everything - out of decades-long
engrained habit. So at any given time my saddle bag will have three or more in
it as sub-organizers: camera, lighting system, wallet & cell phone, patch kit
and tools. At home, other bags contain pocket knives, firs
On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 8:55:17 AM UTC-6, rw1911 wrote:
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> Jan did very well for himself. I submit
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/112439926538 where the buyer got a very nice
> build for a true steal of a price.
Agree - that's a screaming deal. I kind of wish I'd seen that one and
cou
I guess i don't see how that could be considered a high or artificially
driven-up price. It's still considerably less than any current, lugged
production frame - US or otherwise - and, in near perfect condition, has just
as much life left in it. It's also historically significant and more uni
https://youtu.be/w2X3vVMdh-s
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Regarding "not getting one yet, and keeping it on the radar": The subject line
of the recent newsletter said "last of the Clems," but then never elaborated in
the newsletter itself. If you think you want one, I'm thinking it might be
good to do so sooner than later, or at least ask riv what th
Jay, i dont recall how tall you are, but i'd be careful regarding that logic,
if your goal is to not have an upright position. If you are between sizes, the
longer top tube will almost certainly force you to use reach-back bars like
boscos. Those put you quite upright on their own. Then, add
I dont think anybody suggested this yet but if, and ONLY if, one of the Clem
Smith Jr. frames fit you well, that could be a best of both worlds option. It
has the longer top tube similar to the hunq. (better for flat or swept back bar
options, less toe overlap issues if riding on trails or slow
You must have adequate standover clearance then.
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Bill made me spit coffee out my nose. Thanks alot.
The Saluki in question appears to be from early in the run, before tektro made
the rivendell-requested 559 sidepull brake, so it has cantilever brakes.
That, and possibly some different lugs, is a difference.
Normally i like cantis but, in th
Do a forum search using the terms "clem," "drop bar," and "zed martinez." He
gave it a good effort, chronicled his experience in detail and, i believe,
ultimately decided against. I think riv discourages the idea, too. Top tube
length is obviously the issue, and there could of course be excep
Between these two threads, i think the group might be zeroing in on what grant
is talking about, but i'm guessing that distribution of weight to the
handlebars is the bigger issue, and that front center measurement is only one
part of that equation... and that it is too simplistic to be the main
I move my hands around constantly. So "both." It took me a LONG time to dial
in moustache bars, finding the right stem, but it sounds like you'd be a good
candidate if you can make 'em work. The main thing i'd say is not to shy away
from that 'stretched out' position - or at least don't preclu
Extra bike(s), yes! What that bike may be depends on where the island is.
Humid or arid? Hilly or flat? Salt air or lake? Sandy or loamy soils?
Dehumidifier or air conditioning in the cabin?
If the storage conditions aren't compatible with a good steel bike, I'd just
buy some cheap alumi
Yeah, Mark - i think you want you let air out, not add it!
I just took mine off my all rounder and went back to the original 1.75 compass
tires because it was so tedious to tune the bounce out. But, in my case, it
was the rim's fault - not the tire's.
Normally, the way to get a high-volume, su
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Jeesh, Matt! Hope you're ok, and hope it's just the fork that needs to be
replaced.
I guess I'd completely overlooked that part of the argument for less-stiff
blades, but now it makes sense.
Otherwise, I think this might be one of the few places where I disagree with
Grant, and believe that t
If i remember correctly, those ones were also going to be limited to smaller
sizes, to accommodate stature typical of intended market.
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Awesome. Love to hear these kinds of endings. What a great, supportive gang
you all are, out there in the bay area!!!
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Max, the velocity cliffhanger is exactly what you describe.
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Brakes dont make it more comfortable but those fat tires and wide rims, which
aren't available with rim brake compatibility, sure do.
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Funny - to me, the abilty to swap wheel sizes has ALWAYS been the best selling
point of disk brakes, but that might be because im primarily a mountain biker.
That said, i admittedly swap less than i could, if even at all. I prefer my
fat 26" front wheel to the 29er front wheel so much in gener
As noted, all-arounder is pretty apt, and also the term Grant uses often.
Of course, you realize that trying to pigeonhole something by categorizing it
completely defeats the purpose of it not belonging to a category.
I always liked chris kostman's take, with the "rough riders" / "any-bike
Looks nice. You're probably the guy to ask: would those fit on an "actual"
quickbeam?
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I currently have super motos, which are the predecessor to the g one, on my
clem, and also use it regularly on mild single track. I've had no issues with
traction, but will admit that i don't push it as hard as i might on my mountain
bike. Because of the low pressures for which the tire is int
I hope the medium mountain mixtes are as big of a hit as the extra large ones
were, and that the success prompts a run of in-between-sized large ones
And that i can afford to jump on it when it happens.
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Question: your photo is cut off and just barely shows it (perhaps by design?),
but what's up with the seat cluster? Looks like the one lug that the clem had
is going away? Did they burn through all of the unused tall bike lugs that
prompted the project in the first place? Or is the design cha
I was going to say almost exactly what Garth said. Having gone through the
same circumstances and adjustment to riding realities as you are currently,
and having done it for extended periods that allowed me time to experiment
(my kids range from 25 to 10 years old), I will say that the thing t
Glad the marks rack is going to work, and it is definitely classy looking. I
WAS going suggest something new i saw on the caradice site quite recently, but
it appears to be discontinued already. It was a version of the bagman support
with extra support struts. Still, if the marks rack doesn't
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