Re: [RBW] Hot Waxing Chains

What I’m curious about is what results one with get with other lubes applied in the same manner as NSF. Can’t wait for your report, Patrick. Of course I can always try myself. Count me skeptical of any magic in NSF but I am intrigued. Bill S -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Hot Waxing Chains

Deacon, sorry to read this, but glad you have found a way to deal with it. Be well. Michael On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 7:11:46 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Michael, > > I sold the chain saw after me bludgeoned brain. I can't be near the loud > motor. I use a Silky saw now. the 14"

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-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [RBW] Hot Waxing Chains One more satisfied customer, I guess! NFS is the one lube that from reports I would consider using in place of Molten Speed Wax. Must get around to buying some.Question to you sandy/dusty/silty surface riders: I'd

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Michael, I sold the chain saw after me bludgeoned brain. I can't be near the loud motor. I use a Silky saw now. the 14" blade goes through stunningly thick downed trees for quick(ish) human powered trail work. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 4:54:37 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer

Re: [RBW] Hot Waxing Chains

Patrick, in hind sight I suspect I did overdue it, out of insecurity. Like Moses who insisted on striking the rock twice. Michael On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 6:07:17 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > One more satisfied customer, I guess! NFS is the one lube that from > reports I would

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Deacon, do you actually own chain saw? I owned a chain saw for many years, decades actually. Then one day I looked down and noticed that I still had to legs and two hands and decided I would sell my chainsaw while I was ahead. I still own many dangerous tools, including a 3HP table saw, a

Re: [RBW] Hot Waxing Chains

I just use 8 drops and I’m good to go! > On Jun 5, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > One more satisfied customer, I guess! NFS is the one lube that from reports I > would consider using in place of Molten Speed Wax. Must get around to buying > some. > > Question to you

Re: [RBW] Hot Waxing Chains

One more satisfied customer, I guess! NFS is the one lube that from reports I would consider using in place of Molten Speed Wax. Must get around to buying some. Question to you sandy/dusty/silty surface riders: I'd be interested to hear how NFS performs in dry conditions of this sort. I'm talking

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Inspired by this thread, I will see if chainsaw oil applied so sparingly but not wiped off accomplishes much the same thing. Still working through me huge pint I bout a few years ago. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

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4:45 AMTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comReply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [RBW] Hot Waxing Chains Never heard of it, but they certainly make extravagant claims!   The idea of only using 12 drops for an entire chain and then letting the cogs redistribute sounds interesting

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now. > > Robert Tilley > San Diego, CA > > Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device > *From:* mhec...@gmail.com > *Sent:* May 28, 2020 4:18 PM > *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > *Reply-to:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [RBW] H

Re: [RBW] Hot Waxing Chains

If others can compare NFS with Molten Speed Wax on sandy terrain from personal experience, I'd very much like to hear from them. Patrick Moore, who is nonetheless pretty happy with MSW. On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 11:56 AM Robert Tilley wrote: > I have recently switched over to NFS lube after

Re: [RBW] Hot Waxing Chains

@googlegroups.comReply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: [RBW] Hot Waxing Chains Greetings, one and all.  It has been a long time, at least a few years, since my last post and I am just assuming my membership is still active.At 75+, I still ride regularly, although not the distances I used to.  I live

[RBW] Hot Waxing Chains

Michael, It’s good to see you back! Always liked reading your posts. Glad you’re doing well and out there riding. My experience with cleaning/lubing chains and the resulting contamination mirrors yours. Happy I only have three chains to clean:-) The waxing vs. conventional lubing topic comes

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Note that Molten Speed Wax works much better than mere paraffin, despite it's silly name. On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 5:51 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > https://moltenspeedwax.com > > I ride in very fine silty sand and find that waxed chains pick up almost > no dirt. I use this stuff in a small

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Note that I ride where the average annual rainfall is about 9"; I expect the stuff would work less well in Seattle. On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 5:51 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > https://moltenspeedwax.com > > I ride in very fine silty sand and find that waxed chains pick up almost > no dirt. I use

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https://moltenspeedwax.com I ride in very fine silty sand and find that waxed chains pick up almost no dirt. I use this stuff in a small crockpot and a with a masterlink and find it easy and fast apart from waiting for the wax to melt and ensuring that the chain soaks in the liquid wax for 15

[RBW] Hot Waxing Chains

Greetings, one and all. It has been a long time, at least a few years, since my last post and I am just assuming my membership is still active. At 75+, I still ride regularly, although not the distances I used to. I live in a small town in far northern VT, which has mostly dirt roads. I just

Re: [RBW] Hot waxing chains?

Rock-n-Roll Gold lube comes in a 16 oz bottle, which is a pretty good value. Use it liberally and it will keep the chain relatively clean. (wipe off excessive of course) I use gold on my geared bikes, and the messier blue version on single speed/fixed gear chains. On Wednesday, June 6,

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btw, slop is why I went to Wippermann stainless chains - I hated seeing flash rust on the chain after using the hose to rinse slop from the bike. Since the rest of my bikes are hose-proof, decided to do the same with the chains. On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 5:29:17 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

Re: [RBW] Hot waxing chains?

hi bro, thought I made that clear. This became my system because it is way far the most efficient use of my maintenance time, and best system for life of my drivetrains (I'm running a 47T TA - try finding another one of those). . What I learned before with the dry lubes was they would sling

Re: [RBW] Hot waxing chains?

Has there been careful testing of this, ie internal pressures pushing out the wax and, for that matter, all lubes, and wet lubes flowing back in? At any rate, I seem to be getting as good chain mileage, if not better, with Molten wax as with "dry lubricants" - Pro Link, Purple Extreme, Orange Seal

Re: [RBW] Hot waxing chains?

How are you sure the wear particles and sand aren't from the exterior of the chain? Those can stick to the oil, but do nothing functional except gather at the bottom of your beaker during ultrasonic cleaning. The issue with wax is that it does not replenish itself once displaced by the

Re: [RBW] Hot waxing chains?

The question of how the hot wax can get inside the rollers was answered,for me, on a video. The Australian fellow used liquid paraffin along with the solid bars of paraffin when he melted it down in a Crock-Pot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

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As the new comer to the idea of waxing chains I went to youtube for a demo. There are quite a few ranging from how to to comparison test. One that I found helpful was "Molten SpeedWax - The Epic guide to Chain Waxing It's here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKIJLBgtw1c Michael On

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I'm good for it. On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > ... If we don't win the California State Championship in 2019 I'll come > after Patrick Moore for a $50 refund. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

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I ponied up $50 for 3 pounds, so I can kick off a long term experiment with El Cerrito High School Mountain Bike Racing. Most of the racers' new chains get bought and installed by me, so I'm going to get set up to convert several racers to Molten Speed Wax. The kids are not super disciplined

[RBW] Hot waxing chains?

This just came up on Instagram: https://instagram.com/p/BjkQr4VgsK7/ https://wendperformance.com/buy-online/wend-wax-on The convenience factor is huge. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

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I ride 6000 mi/yr, run Wippermann stainless chains on 4 bikes. I have a minimum effort system that maximizes drivetrain life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

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you can get a really nice one in lieu of a trip to a dentist *or there are inexpensive ones * a glass beaker that fits chain and cleaner is also handy best result is first run in

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Ultrasonic chain cleaning? Do I need to take the chain to a dentist? Michael On Sunday, June 3, 2018 at 5:39:15 PM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: > > I've covered this a few times and shared my results with Patrick before he > picked up the habit. > Ultrasonic cleaning of a chain lubed with liquid

Re: [RBW] Hot waxing chains?

I've covered this a few times and shared my results with Patrick before he picked up the habit. Ultrasonic cleaning of a chain lubed with liquid results in a teaspoon of Wear particles and Sand, because liquid lube wets and sticks sand. Here's the bottom of the beaker after a 700-mi run with

Re: [RBW] Hot waxing chains?

Michael, My experience with Boshield T9 has been positive. I use both the spray and the dropper bottle. I clean/lube my chains every 200-300 miles. Best, Richard On Sunday, June 3, 2018 at 6:29:15 AM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote: > > I have used the one drop per link method for years with a

Re: [RBW] Hot waxing chains?

Yeah ! Lube and GO ! All I can say about "dirt" and "cleanliness" is well ... just because someone sez something is true, never makes it so. Truth Itself is True and not anything else could ever be so Trut. I realized the whole concept given by man of "clean" is based on the

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WHAT was I thinking, Michael? Grin. With abandon, Patrick, whose “woodworking” experiments are limited to 2x4 type construction sawn by handtools outdoors where no cleanup is required! Grin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

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Deacon, now you've gone from preaching to meddling! There's no way I am going to ride around with a dirty chain. Even if I were constitutionally capable of such an abomination, there is still the issue of removing the timing chain from the tandem when we break it in half and put it in the

Re: [RBW] Hot waxing chains?

Michael, what if you took the radical step of not cleaning your chain(s)? Just lube as needed and go. You may have to change your chains a week or two earlier. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

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Three and a half lengths of chain definitely calls for Sheldon Brown’s “The ShelBroCo Bicycle Chain Cleaning System“ — https://www.sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html For waxing, substitute the Phil Wood green grease with paraffin wax and the Deakins White RollerGrease with paraffin oil. -Ana,

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Pro tip: Never mistake your hot wax for your chamois cream... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

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I have used the one drop per link method for years with a great variety of lubes, some a little worse some a little better, but none great. When I was commuting 30 miles every day I took it for granted that I needed to clean the chain, rings & cogs every two weeks. Now that I'm retired and

Re: [RBW] Hot waxing chains?

By way of a minority report, I switched from Chain-L to TriFlow a few years ago, after a fervent recommendation from a bike mechanic. This struck me as eccentric at the time, too light, but I tried it and have been getting good results. Not as messy as Chain-L, does seem to keep the chain

Re: [RBW] Hot waxing chains?

My riding has the best/worst of the wet/dry/dirty/muddy. I gave up with the dry (wax) flavor and just ad a drop per link of chainsaw oil when the chain tells me it needs it (as in I hear the chain. This is my take on Sheldon Brown’s idea that most people over lube and in so doing adhere micro

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'I feel good about it and doing it raises me to a higher level of eccentricity among my friends." Ok, I literally laughed out loud. I thought I was the only person who enjoyed such feelings ;) Oh and I use wet lube if anyone cares. Jim -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Hot waxing chains?

Michael, do you live in wet or dry environs? I hear wax is best for dry but not wet. I live in humid/rainy Maryland and find Chain-L to last a couple months before a reoiling necessary. I get 100-200 miles only out of wax. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Hot waxing chains?

I do it and i don't think is s hassle. The only real advantage I see is that, by soaking the chain, you are reasonably assured each bearing gets lube on it. Of course parrifin is cleaner than oil and that's the only advantage to waxing. I clean the chain ounce every 4-6 weeks with a

Re: [RBW] Hot waxing chains?

I didn't have good results with plain paraffin after several years of using it, though others have said they get very good results. But last year I started to use "Molten Speed Wax" which seems to work much better despite its stupid name. "Better" means that the chain is quiet for at least 200

[RBW] Hot waxing chains?

I did a search on this and was surprised not to find anything. (Except waxing cloth!) After 40+ years of cleaning and lubing chains I may be ready to try wax. I recently got a recipe & process on the tandem list but wondered about the experience of people on this list. How much extra work is