Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-08 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks for the great suggestions everyone. Jan, it is the front brake. I wrote Mitch at MAP and BQ. Theo (from BQ for those who don't know) and Mitch both answered me very quickly. Mitch was kind enough to file a set of washers for me and he just sent them today with my decaleur (just back from

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
I have bolt-on RAIDs on my Kogswell P/R. The back brake does squeal sometimes. To fix, I squirt the rim with water from a water bottle, then go ride a bit with the brake on. I believe what's happening is oil or something like it (handling the rim changing a flat tire will induce it for sure,

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-08 Thread Jan Heine
Tim, sorry to hear that your Compass brakes are squealing so much. We are trying to figure out why they are totally silent on most bikes after a short break-in, but squeal persistently on a very small number of bikes. We have a few hypotheses that we are testing. It's a bit hard, since none of

[RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-08 Thread Ryan Fleming
to be honest I'm not really sure which way Grant is going to go with this...I'm OK with either On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 1:37:30 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: > > Of course there is Ryan, aesthetics!! Post-mounted centre pulls are the > epitome of bike bling > > > On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Lungimsam
Tim, Sometimes the first ride in the rain, or throwing some water on rims and pads and ride around using brakes should help them bed in and make the squeal stop. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this gro

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Braxton Colagross
Perhaps the position on the fork makes the difference? Canti posts would be lower than center pull posts. On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 12:00:30 PM UTC-7, Justin August wrote: > > A few years ago when I inquired about Paul Racer braze-ons on a Hilsen I > was told "no" by Riv due to fork/seatstay

[RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread William deRosset
On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 7:26:01 AM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote: > > Which model/s do they fit? None from stock. You can find a set of RAIDs or at least a RAID yoke to bolt 'em on, but otherwise, it is a new paint job and torch work. Best, Will William M. deRosset Fort Collins, CO -- You r

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread William deRosset
Dear Tim, If they're squealing now after 100mi, and a short shot with a flat file on the pads to get a fresh surface + an alcohol wipe of the rim doesn't fix it, then no: The front brake will not stop squealing until it wears in the slop in the pivot bushing. And they are very, very loud. Thi

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread ted
I experimented with a Raid front brake on my AHH, and experienced fairly persistent squeal. Jan writes that the Compass brakes stop squealing after a few rainy rides, but living in the SF area (ie rains almost never) I wasn't much comforted by that. My impression is that both cantilevers and R

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
Jan claims they are 'self-toeing' and quiet down after 'a few rides'. I had M.A.F.A.C. Racer posts brazed onto a frameset as a low-cost test to see if I would prefer braze-on centerpulls for a hypothetical custom in the future. They squeal like a banshee, and since I have several bikes, it's

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Not to hijack the thread but...I just got my custom MAP with Compass centerpulls and I have a question. Will the front break stop squealing like a banshee after they break in a bit?!?!? I'm using them with HED Belgium 650b rims (brand new). I've only been riding it about a week. Probably around

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Lungimsam
Once I saw an Atlantis with fenders and non-adjustable rack in my LBS. I saw all the open space between the tire and fork crown and thought how easy it must be to mount fenders and non-adjustable rack on a canti-bike. This after installing vo rando rack and honjos on a sidepull bike. -- You re

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Justin August
A few years ago when I inquired about Paul Racer braze-ons on a Hilsen I was told "no" by Riv due to fork/seatstay thickness issues. Since they have hinted at being willing to do cantis on Hilsen frames that seems to have changed. Perhaps they changed tubing specs or got similar tubing with less

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 04/05/2016 11:21 AM, Kieran J wrote: I think it's fair to say that the Compass brakes are almost exclusively geared towards custom frames. True, because they don't include the backing plate, and so are intended for braze-on use only. However, as has been noted before, frame builders who

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 04/05/2016 10:15 AM, William R. wrote: There are many more knowing members here who can correct me if I'm wrong... But, I'm fairly sure that none of the stock Rivs are compatible with the Compass centerpulls. Not without having a frame builder braze the posts on, no. With that said, I'm

[RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Mark Reimer
Of course there is Ryan, aesthetics!! Post-mounted centre pulls are the epitome of bike bling On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 1:00:20 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote: > > Hi Shoji...you're right...those Paul folks think of everything...I'm > getting the center mount on my mixte...I live in the flatl

[RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Ryan Fleming
Hi Shoji...you're right...those Paul folks think of everything...I'm getting the center mount on my mixte...I live in the flatlands and I feel there is no real functional advantage to me to get braze-on mounted centerpulls On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 12:16:34 PM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote

[RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Garth
Look at BQ as a "magazine" in support of their preferences for bikes. So of course they are going to sell what suits their preferences, just like Riv and every other manufacturer, seller etc. does. It's natural to do this. So of course what's written is going be about why they prefer what

[RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Shoji Takahashi
+1 for Shimano CX70 cantilever brakes. I have 'em on my Hunqapillar, swapping out Tektro CR720s. CX70 are easier to set up and stop the bike quicker (when I want that feature). I used standard straddle cables instead of the quicklink(?). Paul centerpulls are available for center mount (i.e., n

[RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Ryan Fleming
If you're going for cantis I think you won't do much better than these...they work great http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/brc3.htm For centerpulls...those old Mafac Racers are excellent brakes and no braze-ons required; Paul centerpulls don't need braze-ons either as far as I know On Tuesda

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Eric Norris
If you want to get a feel for what the Compass brakes are like, find a set of Mafac Racers, which were the inspiration for the Compass model (many parts are interchangeable). The Racers come in a version that will mount to pretty much any Riv frame. I have Racers on two bikes, and like them a

[RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Lungimsam
Right now I don't want to get the Compass brakes. Just wondering if anyone here uses them on their Rivs. I am more interested in cantis for my next bike, unless there is a compelling reason to go with cpulls. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Ow

[RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Kieran J
I think it's fair to say that the Compass brakes are almost exclusively geared towards custom frames. If you are dying to put some long-reach centrepulls on a Riv, use the Pauls. KJ On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 10:24:32 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: > > Wow. Sounds like a niche of a niche boutiqu

[RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Compass centerpulls require special braze ons, so they won't fit on off-the-shelf Riv models. You might be able to get them on certain customs (which I think was mentioned in a Blug post). They might fit on adapters (Mafac?) to permit them to fit on center mounts. shoji On Tuesday, April 5,

[RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread Lungimsam
Wow. Sounds like a niche of a niche boutique item. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: Anyone using Compass centerpulls on thie Rivendell?

2016-04-05 Thread William R.
There are many more knowing members here who can correct me if I'm wrong... But, I'm fairly sure that none of the stock Rivs are compatible with the Compass centerpulls. With that said, I'm sure you could have any of the Waterford built Rivs: Hilsen, Roadeo and Atlantis (or a custom) built with