Re: [RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-04-13 Thread ted
Congrats, I expect your going to be very happy. There are a lot of beautiful details on the Roadini frames (love the chainstay shaping, the stay ends at the rear drop outs, the ball socket seat lug, the filed fork ends, etc etc etc), and of course it will ride like a riv which in my experience

Re: [RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-04-13 Thread Bill Eberle in Columbus, Ohio
And 10 years from now you likely won't regret getting the Roadini. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-04-13 Thread tc
Gotcha, Ted, thanks so much for the descriptive info. I ordered a Roadini. Supporting Riv, and less stem and seat post showing, plus what I take to be a more refined frame sold me. I have no doubt that the BMC could be made to work; but, I felt better after talking with Riv that a Roadini

Re: [RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-04-13 Thread ted
Regarding the BMC road Tom writes "... better for the more flexible Gumby types" I don't think that is accurate. My BMC is much more aggressive/gumbyish than my wife's Roadini, but that is largely because that is what I was going for. I've got a -17deg 13cm stem on my BMC with 7.5mm of spacers

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-04-13 Thread ted
Tom, She said something like oh they are so different. I'm not sure I'll get a response from her that will satisfy your interest. She does describe both as seeming light and responsive. In lieu a more extensive response from her I will offer that: The Roadini has a 34/48 crank from RBW and

Re: [RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-04-13 Thread tc
Called Riv. They say there's a def difference in the ride of the Roadini vs Sam. If you're looking for road-only, and you have another gravel or singletrack bike, and don't need to haul a lot of weight, Roadini is worth it. I fantasize about long tours with gobs of stuff. It will likely

Re: [RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-04-13 Thread Patrick Moore
I'm interested in this comparison myself, as I've looked with interest at the BMC Road. On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 1:10 PM, tc wrote: > Ted, it would be great to hear how your wife compares the Roadini and > Hillborne. > > Tom > > On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 5:33:54 PM UTC-5,

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-04-13 Thread tc
Ted, it would be great to hear how your wife compares the Roadini and Hillborne. Tom On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 5:33:54 PM UTC-5, ted wrote: > > My wife has a Roadini and a Hillborne. I have a BMC Road (orange with flat > fork crown) and a Toyo built 650b AHH. All but the Hillborne are set

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-18 Thread Dave Grossman
Absolutely Bill. I suppose that was what I wanted to know to begin with. None of the three have any serious negative reviews, and they are all great for what they are individually. For me it came down to the ability to run single speed without a tensioner or ENO and the geometry of the BMC.

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-18 Thread Jonathan D.
I also think the 650b Road Plus with disc brakes would be a lot of fun. I am considering building up one of those frames if I can find reasonable priced used parts. So probably four great options now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
The only bad thing about your initial comparison was that there wasn't a 'wrong' answer. Any of the three frames you were considering are really nice. Now that you've chosen one of the three, the other two are still nice decisions, so there will be nothing wrong with deciding you 'need'

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-18 Thread Dave Grossman
I actually went with the blue. I had a lime green bike just like it before and never had a blue bike like that one. Both colors are awesome. Honestly, I really wanted the pink from his v5.0. They seem to sell out pretty quickly so I got on one before it was too late. He must make pretty

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-18 Thread 'Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch
Did you get the latest version in blue or the awesome lime green? I used 700x50 Continental Contacts on my BMC MC, plenty wide for the riding I do. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-18 Thread Belopsky
Yeah you did! On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 10:16:26 PM UTC-5, Dave Grossman wrote: > > Ended up ordering a Monster Cross > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-17 Thread Dave Grossman
Ended up ordering a Monster Cross -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-16 Thread William R.
Daniel: my Roadini came with a seat post, as it seems others did. I was surprised to see the seatpost in there when I opened up the box. I thought I read in one of Grant’s posts that seatposts would not be included. Maybe they only had a certain amount. Regarding tire clearance on the Roadini:

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-15 Thread Belopsky
100% disagree, but depends on what sort of riding one is doing. Casual, gravel/dirt? Sure I guess. Go fast? No way. On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 5:00:45 PM UTC-5, Jay Connolly wrote: > > The Rivs will run fatter. I have 700x50 Cazaderos on my Joe Appaloosa and > Continental Race Kings on my

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-15 Thread Jay Connolly
The Rivs will run fatter. I have 700x50 Cazaderos on my Joe Appaloosa and Continental Race Kings on my Clem L. I think you can get a 45 on the BMC. As a gravel bike, the Joe is hard to beat -- if really fat tires are part of what you want. Took me a while and bunch of tinkering to get it the

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-15 Thread Jonathan D.
Jay- what Riv bikes are you comparing to? I like the idea of running fatter tires with the Monstercross. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-15 Thread Jay Connolly
I have a v2 BMC Monster Cross. I've run it SS and fixed, and full road. Compared to my Rivs, it feels like an aggressive road bike--much lower in the front end. The versatility of semi-horizontal dropouts is fun. I run a Surly Juggernaut on the drive side Jay On Monday, January 15, 2018 at

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-15 Thread Dave Grossman
Thanks Jay. The monster cross is appealing also because of its reach/stack numbers as well. I think it might be the way to go. I am still interested in a Roadini but I love the idea to be able to go pure single speed. Also, I have some sweet rim brake wheels waiting to be used! -- You

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-15 Thread Daniel D.
Do Roadinis come with seatposts? Mine didn't. Just BB and headset. On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 2:45:01 PM UTC-8, Dave Grossman wrote: > > its not a $300 difference. The BMC has no headset, so thats $50-100 right > there. Plus the post and B.B. on the Roadini. I’d put it at $175-$200.

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-15 Thread Daniel D.
Do Roadinis come with seatposts? Mine didn't. Just BB and headset. On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 2:45:01 PM UTC-8, Dave Grossman wrote: > > its not a $300 difference. The BMC has no headset, so thats $50-100 right > there. Plus the post and B.B. on the Roadini. I’d put it at $175-$200.

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-14 Thread Jay Connolly
Check the new geo for the BMC road plus. It's a disc frame that can run both 650B x 47 and 700c road wheels, I believe. Mike has brought the front end up. Stack for the largest size is something like 650, if memory serves. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-14 Thread John G.
Mine came with a Bottom Bracket. I have both, but I've only built up the BMC, which I really love. Others have noted the giant headtube and long chaintstays on the Roadini, which will likely alter the handling. Finish wise, I'd give the Roadini the edge. The grilver is gorgeous in person, and

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-14 Thread Belopsky
Does the Roadini come with a BB? UN-55 is $15-20. Uno seatpost is $15-20. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-14 Thread Joe Bernard
Y'all gon make me crazy with this BMC stuff. There's an actual BMC bike company which makes this ridiculous low-bar city bike which I like even though it's ridiculous. Enjoy! (and try to say Black Mountain Cycles so we know what you're talking about!)

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-14 Thread Dave Grossman
I could have put $150 for a King! On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 5:47:13 PM UTC-6, Belopsky wrote: > > That's a fancy headset you spec ;) > > FSA Orbit is $20-25. > Cane Creek 40 if you want to get fancy for $40-45. > > On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 5:45:01 PM UTC-5, Dave Grossman wrote: >> >>

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-14 Thread Belopsky
That's a fancy headset you spec ;) FSA Orbit is $20-25. Cane Creek 40 if you want to get fancy for $40-45. On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 5:45:01 PM UTC-5, Dave Grossman wrote: > > its not a $300 difference. The BMC has no headset, so thats $50-100 right > there. Plus the post and B.B. on the

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-14 Thread Dave Grossman
its not a $300 difference. The BMC has no headset, so thats $50-100 right there. Plus the post and B.B. on the Roadini. I’d put it at $175-$200. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-14 Thread ted
My wife has a Roadini and a Hillborne. I have a BMC Road (orange with flat fork crown) and a Toyo built 650b AHH. All but the Hillborne are set up as road bikes with drop bars. Down tube shifters on the Roadini and AHH, brifters on the the BMC Road. First I think a lot of folks would say the

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-14 Thread Chris
the price difference is over $300... maybe that's not much to some, but it certainly makes me wonder... just imagine what you could do with an extra $300+ when it comes to wheels or tires... I haven't ridden a Roadini, but I did have a Bleriot and when you compare the frame of the Bleriot