[RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-17 Thread Forrest
To all who responded to original question of Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy, thank you. Very helpful. -- Forrest On May 16, 6:25 pm, Patrick in VT wrote: > On May 16, 5:49 pm, Aaron Thomas wrote: > > > Interesting. That hasn't been my experience with the Grifo XS at all. > > I like the XS, espe

[RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-16 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 16, 5:49 pm, Aaron Thomas wrote: > Interesting. That hasn't been my experience with the Grifo XS at all. I like the XS, especially the tubular (although I do get some tread peeling)! i've done a bunch of cyclocross racing on it, and it probably is preferable on "trails" to a slick. but

[RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-16 Thread Aaron Thomas
Interesting. That hasn't been my experience with the Grifo XS at all. I've ridden the same trails on both Jack Brown greens and Grifo XS. For me, the small knobs offer quite a bit of grip in sections that leave the JBs slipping and spinning out. I haven't had any cornering issues on asphalt wi

[RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-16 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 16, 12:04 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > And do the Grifo XSs roll well on pavement? the XS has a very, very soft tread and I wouldn't be surprised if it started to peel away if used primarily on the road. I've used both the clincher and tubular - and like them - but it's not going to offer

[RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-16 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 15, 11:44 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > But how do the Paris-Roubaix and the GB do on firm dirt and gravel? Would I be > pushing it? I've pushed both over many an unpaved surface. no flats/sidewall tears, but they get chewed up pretty good. lots of nicks in the tread and rough surfaces d

Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 08:55 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: > > Strange to me. I've ridden many miles on 23 mm tires of gravel. > Unless the gravel is loose it's not a problem. But then I grew up > doing a lot of riding on gravel; I just keep going because it doesn't > feel funny to me. It's probabl

Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-16 Thread Aaron Thomas
The Grifo XS roll beautifully on pavement! Just as well as (actually, possibly even faster than) the JB Greens, despite the nibbly knobs. And I'm not saying that to dis' the JB Greens, which I like a lot and think are really great tires. I've ridden the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix on gravel/dirt a

[RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-16 Thread Swami
I made the exact switch you are describing. My Seven Rando bike had Ruffy Tuffys which I loved. Great ride, no flats luckily after nearly 500 miles but they are so light and thin that I felt a flat was inevitable. My riding has changed recently with me riding through Boston at night and I didn't wa

Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-16 Thread Tim McNamara
On May 16, 2011, at 7:19 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 21:44 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > >> But how do the Paris-Roubaix and the GB do on firm dirt and gravel? > > I was on one dirt road ride last year where a friend had 28mm > Paris-Roubaix tires. She flatted almost imm

Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 21:44 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > But how do the Paris-Roubaix and the GB do on firm dirt and gravel? I was on one dirt road ride last year where a friend had 28mm Paris-Roubaix tires. She flatted almost immediately as soon as we got on the gravel, and then flatted again

Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-15 Thread cyclotourist
I haven't used the Grifos, but the tread is really minimal from when I looked at them. It's not going to slow you down :) That's the XS model, not the regular Grifo which is more of a lugged cyclocross pattern. The GBs are really nice tires. I think you would like either size, although if you l

Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks, David. I ride this bike mostly on pavement -- the dirt here in my area is too sandy for anything except really fat and soft tires -- but I want to be able to take short detours off the bike path and off the pavements in, say, Corrales, near my house. I'd prefer a good road tire that does ac

Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-15 Thread cyclotourist
Grand Bois 28s are good on the hardpack. Great all around tires, although they're wearing down really fast IMHO. I had the 30mm ones as well, and those had problems, but so far the 28s are great. If you want something a little larger, consider the Challenge Grifo XS. Touch of tread would be grea

Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The Roly Poly got nixed on BQ's rollout reviews, tho' I don't necessarily buy everything they say (too many variables, IMO). But how do the Paris-Roubaix and the GB do on firm dirt and gravel? Would I be pushing it? I've been thinking of a pair of JB Greens, which I've tried and liked, but can easi

[RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-15 Thread Aaron Thomas
For a nice tire around 28 mm wide, I'd opt for the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix, the Grand Bois Cerf, or the Roll-y Pol-y. I have limited experience with the Schwalbes (didn't like 'em) and quite a bit of experience with the Ruffy Tuffy (very durable and long-lasting, but a bit dead feeling). The th

[RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-15 Thread Mojo
I have used the 700X35 & 26X1.5 Marathon Racer (MR) and the 28mm Ruffy Tuffy (RT) (is there any other size RT?). It is hard to compare tires of such different size. Both tires ride harsh at pressures of ~70-75psi in the MR and ~80-85 in the RT. Both have been quite flat resistent for me. The MR see

[RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-15 Thread MichaelH
I run the racers (26x1.6) on my tandem and have run the ruffy-tuffy on my Ram, so it is impossible to compare the ride but the racers do seem more puncture resistant with tougher sidewalls. I found the r-ts to be a pretty good all around tire on the Ram but have moved to sportier selections since

[RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy

2011-05-15 Thread GeorgeS
I have used both tires on my Rambouilet. The Marathon is definitely the more puncture resistant tire. I've had only one flat on those tires and that was the result of an unlucky encounter with a roofing nail. The Ruffy feels a little more lively but not nearly as springy as the Grand Bois tires.