Re: [RBW] Re: my joe appaloosa setup

It's the wider one, 710. It's wide. Really wide. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: > Is your Jones bar the 660 or the 710? > > On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 4:35:31 AM UTC-4, Patrick D Kelly wrote: >> >> I've put together an album with a lot of tedious

[RBW] Re: my joe appaloosa setup

Is your Jones bar the 660 or the 710? On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 4:35:31 AM UTC-4, Patrick D Kelly wrote: > > I've put together an album with a lot of tedious details about how I've > configured my joe appaloosa, including: > > * surly front rack > * jones loop h-bar > * interesting rear light

Re: [RBW] Re: my joe appaloosa setup

I had been trying to think of some way to add some space there for a while when I remembered those little extender things in my parts bin. I was pretty surprised that they actually worked, but the work really well. It really is a lot more solid than it looks in the photo. I was pretty pleased with

[RBW] Re: my joe appaloosa setup

oh, nevermind -- it's a lock for the saddle. On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 4:35:31 AM UTC-4, Patrick D Kelly wrote: > > I've put together an album with a lot of tedious details about how I've > configured my joe appaloosa, including: > > * surly front rack > * jones loop h-bar > * interesting rear

[RBW] Re: my joe appaloosa setup

A I clicked on the picture and saw the explanation: "This is the "standard" rear battery light from rivbike. I have a longboy rear rack, mounted as low as possible. When the light is mounted flush on the rack, there is very little space between the tire and the light. I used a couple of

[RBW] Re: my joe appaloosa setup

Tell us more about the rear light mounting! Edwin On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 3:35:31 AM UTC-5, Patrick D Kelly wrote: > > I've put together an album with a lot of tedious details about how I've > configured my joe appaloosa, including: > > * surly front rack > * jones loop h-bar > * interesting

[RBW] Re: my joe appaloosa setup

Well that just made my day! Great selection of parts. I also agree the Jones bar looks wonderful on that bike. Is that the Cambium C-17 or the new C-19? (looks like the 17 to me but thought I'd ask) Congratulations on the bike! On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:42:34 AM UTC-4, Clayton.sf wrote:

[RBW] Re: my joe appaloosa setup

Hey Patrick: what is it that thing you have zip tied to your seat post? On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 4:35:31 AM UTC-4, Patrick D Kelly wrote: > > I've put together an album with a lot of tedious details about how I've > configured my joe appaloosa, including: > > * surly front rack > * jones loop

[RBW] Re: my joe appaloosa setup

looks great - especially like the bars On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 3:35:31 AM UTC-5, Patrick D Kelly wrote: > > I've put together an album with a lot of tedious details about how I've > configured my joe appaloosa, including: > > * surly front rack > * jones loop h-bar > * interesting rear light

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Hi Bill, Thats a very nice Joe Appaloosa!!! Makes me tempted to buy one for myself :-) Give us ride report please if you get the chance. Thanks, Ed Fausto On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > I do like the pedals a lot. It's got a great sealed bearing.

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Bill - this is terrific, as usual with your bikes. Hope to see it and you someday soon. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 7:55:20 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: > > Super beautiful build. > I haven't been paying as close attention to the new Riv bikes as perhaps I >

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

oops - forgot to add the photo: On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 4:50:45 PM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote: > > Not to hijack Bill's thread, but I thought this was interesting.

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Not to hijack Bill's thread, but I thought this was interesting. Same B65 fenders on my Clem. First of all, I hadn't noticed or considered it until reading this discussion, but sure enough - the chain did in fact rub on the fender in the lowest two gears. What's interesting is that I was

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Yup. I learned that this past weekend when I shifted to my big cog for the first time ever on my Clem. Never needed to until I happened upon some muddy trails. I just picked up a set of P65s for Clementine, so I'll try to just trace the cutout from the P65 onto my B65. SKS fender material is

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Detail of the drive side rear B65 fender. On the non-drive side I had to > cutaway just the section for the chainstay. On the driveside that cutout > extends much higher to provide chain clearance for when I'm in the

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Looking good Bill! Rivs always look better with fenders, at least to me. On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 10:06:31 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Pics prove my morning coffee run has a nice view, and proves that I can > dremel plastic > > >

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Bill, it is looking great! Well done. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Coming together beautifully! Fantastic detail with the granny gear clearance. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 11:06:31 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Pics prove my morning coffee run has a nice view, and proves that I can > dremel plastic > -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Pics prove my morning coffee run has a nice view, and proves that I can dremel plastic View from the Cemetery overlooking The El Cerrito hill. GG Bridge in the

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

I spent a bit of time installing a set of B65 SKS fenders on my Joe Appaloosa last night. I will post Images when I get to my computer. Normally one would mount the front fender stays to the eyelet under the fork tips. That eyelet is occupied by my Nitto Big Front rack. That rack has a

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Use plastic tankards, lads. Like they have in Scotland. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10083843/Scottish-outrage-at-nanny-state-plan-to-ban-pint-glass-in-Highlands-pubs.html On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:26:55 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Thanks, Bill. We'll drink a

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 8:53:37 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > Horses for courses! > Haha. LITERALLY! :-) Anyway...I went by HQ again today, since I had overlooked a good fender solution. I bought myself a set of B65 fenders, plus an extra stay-kit to do some additional

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

It's s pretty. I love that color! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Horses for courses! On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > I have no immediate plans to take the Appaloosa on single track. I have > ten bikes including a proper mountain bike. I don't think of the Appaloosa > as a single track mountain bike. I'm thinking

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

I have no immediate plans to take the Appaloosa on single track. I have ten bikes including a proper mountain bike. I don't think of the Appaloosa as a single track mountain bike. I'm thinking of it as a camping bike, a leisurely road bike and maybe a multi week loaded touring bike, and I

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

My Atlantis is getting a similar changeover. Since the fenders have been pretty much useless here on SoCal (oh El Nino, where is thy soaking?), they're coming off & while I'm at it a pair of 45 mm Marathon Mondials (at a svelte 760 grams ea) get installed for RSR. May just leave 'em on if the

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Wow! I wander off for dinner & come back to a possible duel. It was entertaining there for a while. Thankfully we've drifted back to bike geeking. dougP On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 7:59:11 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: > > Whew! I was literally on the edge of my seat there. > Okay,

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Whew! I was literally on the edge of my seat there. Okay, figuratively, but it was pretty tense going! "Do you bite your thumb at me, sir?" Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Bill, do you have any singletrack miles on it for comparison? I wonder about long stays being a negative, as in my limited experience, I prefer shorter stays on dirt for a) climbing b) manuals c) switchbacks. It seems like going to 430mm from 450mm helps me in these me in these three areas, and

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Thanks, Bill. We'll drink a glass together one day. On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Apology accepted. Unnecessary 18th century duel cancelled. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch"

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Apology accepted. Unnecessary 18th century duel cancelled. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Kieth: that was well and modestly stated. Thank you. I shure as shit thought BL was dissing me, but -- you won't believe it, but it's true! -- I have been wrong before. No, really! So: If I misunderstood Bill, and made much ado about nothing, I wholeheartedly and fulsomely apologize to Bill and

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

I cannot retract calling Patrick Moore a Grant hater for the simple reason that I never called Patrick Moore a Grant hater. I will repeat: Patrick Moore is not a Grant hater. I will add that bertin753 is not a Grant hater. This is not a retraction because I never called anyone a Grant hater. I

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Ok kids, I think something got lost in translation here. Back to your positions..start over! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

I'm kind of clumsy with my words sometimes, and frequently put my foot in my mouth or insult people in on-line forums - without meaning to. You typically don't suffer from the same malady, Patrick, so I hope you'll take this in the kindest possible way, as it is intended: You're reading

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Tell you what: I'll offer an olive branch. You retract "Grant hater" and I'll retract "fool." We'll each say what we want about list topics, and forbear criticizing others' opinions. Deal? Patrick "gnothi seauton" Moore On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Wow. Um, OK. I'll just turn the other cheek. My Appaloosa is a nice bike. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

You are a fool. There, I've slapped you across the face with my gauntlet and insulted you. It's up to you to challenge me to a duel; weapon of your choice -- epithets, irony, cruel satire, cold sneering, hot cursing -- you choose. Hell, I'll arm wrestle you. For the rest, I believe far less

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

You a Grant Hater? Gawd no. Your profile appearance on iBob is bertin73 or something like that. My reference to iBob is that it is extremely fashionable to scoff at Grant and at Riv as a beach cruiser company. Many on iBob think that Grant reached his apex with the 1993 RB1 and it's been

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Different profile? What is it? I'd like to know. Are you saying that I am a Grant hater? If so, come out and say it. I didn't think at first you were speaking of me, but this seems to say that you are. Then come out and say it openly and bravely, and take the consequences. This pisses me off

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

I want this resolved. On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Different profile? What is it? I'd like to know. > > Are you saying that I am a Grant hater? If so, come out and say it. > > I didn't think at first you were speaking of me, but this seems to say >

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

I'm currently thinking about removing the fenders from my Atlantis and installing Bruce Gordon Rock and Roads and using it more as a trail/mud bike for a while. On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 4:29:23 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote: > > Bill: > > You have an Atlantis and the Appaloosa is a candidate for

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

"Are there really such detractors? Who, and where? Who are the "inflexible traditionalists" who sneer and hate, and why would they do this? If anyone sneers, why wouldn't it be the carbon fiber fellows? Is this just incipient paranoia?" If you are joking: Good one! If you are not joking: I'm

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Bill: You have an Atlantis and the Appaloosa is a candidate for a 2 week tour? That's either high praise or heresy, I'm not sure which. In any case, the Appaloosa sounds like one hell of a bike. Longer chainstays, whodda thunk? dougP On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 4:06:37 PM UTC-8, Bill

Re: [RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Are there really such detractors? Who, and where? Who are the "inflexible traditionalists" who sneer and hate, and why would they do this? If anyone sneers, why wouldn't it be the carbon fiber fellows? Is this just incipient paranoia? FWIW, my 45 cm-stayed customs are the best handling bikes I've

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Comparing the Appaloosa to the Hillborne in my case is not quite a fair comparison because my Hillborne is set up as kind of a go-fast. Anyway, I still don't have fenders on the Appaloosa but weather cooperated today. I rode from the El Cerrito Hills down into downtown Berkeley for a business

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Great set up. I only got to test ride the Joe at Riv a little bit in the rain but I loved the smooth feel and fat tires. How does the ride compare to your Hillborne? I had thought about trading my 56 Sam for the 55 Joe just to get the ability to up the tire size. Wasn't sure it would be a

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

That is swanky ... On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 5:00:13 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > That basket with major swagger is a big Wald from Riv, modified by me. I > think I have a flickr album on the modification > > Hack-a-Basket >

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

That basket with major swagger is a big Wald from Riv, modified by me. I think I have a flickr album on the modification Hack-a-Basket Scroll to the bottom. The final 8 photos show my process. I was inspired by Jenny

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

What are you using for a basket there, Bill? On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 2:10:26 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > You are right Shoji. Even with a slammed stem this bike is still quite > upright. Since this bike could become a real loaded touring bike for me, I > am not going to rule out

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

trick ride, Bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

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You are right Shoji. Even with a slammed stem this bike is still quite upright. Since this bike could become a real loaded touring bike for me, I am not going to rule out experimenting with drop bars on this bike. My 55cm Appaloosa has a shorter effective top tube than my 58cm Atlantis. So,

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Looks great, Bill. I really like the mustard color. After looking at long chain-stay bikes for awhile, the Appaloosa looks remarkably normal (with some beautiful details). I wonder if Riv could've spec'd the Chocomoose with less rise. Slammed stem + expanded frame, and the handlebar grips are

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Sweet Ride !! Dennis in PDX On Sunday, March 6, 2016 at 5:06:12 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > > > > >

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

For a guy who only got into it today, you sure work fast! That came out beautiful. On the pedal question, Wellgo supplies some to REI that are metal (probably re-cycled aluminum) with a rubber insert on the shoe surfaces. They retail for less than $20 & are ideal for flip-flop or sandals in

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

Like! On Sunday, March 6, 2016 at 5:06:12 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > > > > > > I

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

I do like the pedals a lot. It's got a great sealed bearing. They install with an 8mm allen from the inside (no pedal wrench flats). The black body is plastic, with medals spikes. There's a model number K926 with a wavy logo preceding it. I think that might make them Wellgo brand, but I

[RBW] Re: My Joe Appaloosa

LOOKER Love seeing other folks' bikes in my size, SH and all. That girl is arm candy. How are those pedals, and any idea what they are? Never used spikes before, need something for flip flop season. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CAUSA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to