I rode 65 miles this weekend on my Raceface Atlas platforms and Merrill
proterras with no kind of pain whatsoever - did take a pretty good nap,
though.
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On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 5:13:59 PM UTC-5, Chris Chen
The MKS touring is a gorgeous pedal but it's very narrow. I've got grip
kings and VP-001 or Vice pedals and they're great. I rode one summer with
birkenstocks and MKS touring pedals and while it was fun it was hell on my
feet :)
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Evan E. evanellio...@gmail.com
Agreed - the MKS touring pedals are designed to use with toe clips. They
work fine as a city bike pedal for short trips, but for me anything more
than that led to foot pain with soft soled shoes. I switched to Grip Kings,
and now to VP-001s and have no pain at all.
David
Chicago
On Friday, May
I think we're in violent agreement on a number of things, Ron. Platform
pedals make sense, and it is a mechanical issue. I think the mechanical
issue includes the proper function and strength of the foot, and you
believe external support is the way to go. That is the main point of
divergence
My apologies, Ron. Thank you for clarifying.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 8:43:42 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
Deac, don't quote me out of context - I was specifically addressing
circulation pinch, as described by our friend.
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If fun appears to cause pain Ron, then it's not True Joy !Ever ! !
For something to be True, it must be absolute without exception or
contradiction or any other, ever lasting without beginning or ending, and
wholly independent .
On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 8:15:10 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc
Deac, don't quote me out of context - I was specifically addressing
circulation pinch, as described by our friend.
On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 9:05:43 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
I think we're in violent agreement on a number of things, Ron. Platform
pedals make sense, and it is a
An inexpensive, wider pedal is the first thing to try. Cage style pedals
are never going to be as comfortable with their sharp edges. I've banned
them from my bikes and only ride Grip Kings or similar.
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and I was funning with your shoe aversion, I apologize if you were offended
- what works for you may not work for me.
Had a cute implied food nazi joke with the guy at the grocery store
yesterday. He asked me what the Omega was for. I told him I don't know,
but my daughter eats it.
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Och, nae worries here, mate! I took it as a good cut to the bone Scottish
joke (admittedly good, cut to the bone, and Scottish are a wee bit
redundant). Grin.
Omegas help the foot function properly on a pedal. Without them one needs
specialized, accommodative footbinders, er, footwear. Grin.
all I know is my daughter can't pedal toe clips in her wrestling shoes
On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 10:20:57 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Och, nae worries here, mate! I took it as a good cut to the bone Scottish
joke (admittedly good, cut to the bone, and Scottish are a wee bit
redundant).
Nor I in my bare feet! Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 9:27:27 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
all I know is my daughter can't pedal toe clips in her wrestling shoes
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not exactly, because different things work for different people. I agree
with back pain dialing in reach and saddle height is very important. The
way we lean on the bars as we get older wasn't the way we rode when we were
young.
And saddle height could be a factor in circulation pinch on
Probably meant to be White Industries Urban Pedal, a very nice update of an old
Lyotard pedal. Link here: http://www.whiteind.com/pedals/
I have them on two bikes. They’re great pedals if you like toe clips (I do,
for some bikes). Not so good without the clips.
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Oh! Of course, silly me. +1 on the White's, great pedals, especially with
BG's clips.
John
On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 9:59:12 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
Probably meant to be White Industries Urban Pedal, a very nice update of
an old Lyotard pedal. Link here: http://www.whiteind.com/pedals/
And +1 for the BG clips, too – the White pedal with the BG half clips is a
terrific combo
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I'm curious. What is a Paul's Urban pedal?
I can't find a reference through the Googling.
Thanks,
John
On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 3:31:12 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
The second thing I do is vary the pedals I use. On my Ram tandem I use
Speedplay Frogs (I know clipless) and on
great-looking pedals for clips, and fast ingress
On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 12:03:21 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
Oh! Of course, silly me. +1 on the White's, great pedals, especially with
BG's clips.
John
On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 9:59:12 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
Probably meant to be White
A little off-topic, but in addition to the BG half clips, the King Cages folks
make an unusual kind of cage/toe clip that is REALLY comfortable. Pic here on
my A.N.T. Truss Bike.
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Oh man! Those are classy clips!
John
On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
A little off-topic, but in addition to the BG half clips, the King Cages
folks make an unusual kind of cage/toe clip that is REALLY comfortable.
Pic here on my A.N.T. Truss Bike.
MKS does a similar Lyotard-Berthet knockoff, as the Urban Platform Ezy
Superior.
http://www.mkspedal.com/English/catalog4.htm
Both the superelegant WI version and the MKS version are much bigger than
the original Lyotard pedals, which are all but unusable for anyone with
feet bigger than
I would suggest you begin with a visit to a good podiatrist. Find one with
good experience and a practice that doesn't focus on lots of surgery.
I have pain which I think is similar to yours, burning in the ball. Some
years ago I had a cyst removed there which had caused me a great deal of
Michael, it may be time to consult an expert, ie a good podiatrist. If you're
willing to go to Olney MD I have one, email me off list. A good one can
diagnose your problem and likely provide a solution, possibly orthotics.
Steve
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the King Cages folks make an unusual kind of cage/toe clip that is REALLY
comfortable. Pic here on my A.N.T. Truss Bike
Definitely nice. I managed to break one though. Stopped by a stop light at
a busy Chicago intersection with my right foot on the street. When the
light changed trying to
Just to pile on and to address Lungimsam's original question:
- If the pedal is a long and broad platform (such as Thin Gripster or RMX
Sneaker Pedal), then the shoe and its sole rigidity matters very little.
- If the pedal has narrow/limited points of contact (such as the MKS
Touring Pedal),
pss - some people Deserve good guitars, good fishing poles and good pedals.
Both matter , as you ride with both of them together . MKS touring
pedals have such a small platform which may be fine for some, but not for
others . The VP-001 and similar Vice(much easier pin adjustment
Make sure the shoe you have is wide enough. My feet get wider as the day goes
on and sometimes if I take my shoes off and walk around the classroom for a
while (my classroom is... Interesting) when I put my shoes back on they feel
right in the ball of the foot. I try to buy the widest, flattest
Singing hymns of holistic harmony and a regimen at doctor deac's foot gym
is not necessary. This is not a stamina problem. It's a mechanical
problem. Good pedals and shoe combination is important, but numbness is
always pinched circulation. Ever ride with your wrists bent improperly
Both matter , as you ride with both of them together . MKS touring pedals
have such a small platform which may be fine for some, but not for others
. The VP-001 and similar Vice(much easier pin adjustment are a larger ,
more squared platform and can be had for 50 something dollars from
He's talking about having fun in spite of the fun causing Pain. I think
solving the pain is a high priority. But I agree he is on the wrong pedal.
On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 7:07:24 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
Both matter , as you ride with both of them together . MKS touring
pedals have
Thanks, but I have already been down both the custom orthodics surgery
route.
On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 6:31:17 AM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote:
Michael, it may be time to consult an expert, ie a good podiatrist. If
you're willing to go to Olney MD I have one, email me off list. A good one
Sorry, I was addressing the OP, who I believe is also a Michael. But Michael H
states my case in more detail re podiatrists. Cheers,
Steve
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ps - we all do this as kids, or we wouldn't be here. When something you do
releases your kid, you become contagious at it.
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The best times I've ever had fishing have been filming shows for national
tv. All because
and again, Justin, that all depends on feet - mine are 13AAA with high
arches (and no, they're not out of shape). I like my Merrills, and when
I'm not in proterras I'm in Merrill sandals
On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 7:59:19 AM UTC-5, Justin August wrote:
Make sure the shoe you have is wide
adding to correct fit, Justin, in the right shoes, you should be able to
splay your toes - the same feeling as stretching your fingers as wide as
you can, only inside your shoes
On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 7:59:19 AM UTC-5, Justin August wrote:
Make sure the shoe you have is wide enough. My
I've never thought about strengthening my feet but it certainly makes sense. I
know that strengthening my core and upper body helps my cycling, and the core
work especially has eliminated back pain so I don't know why you wouldn't get
similar benefits from trying to strengthen your feet. Also,
I agree that getting a good, full sized platform pedal is an essential
first step, regardless of whether you decide to sing hymns of holistic
harmony and a regimen at doctor deac's foot gym. Grin. (What a great line
Ron! I love it!)
Podiatrists said my feet were weak since I was 10 and put me
Someone mentioned here or on I-Bob with regard to shoes for platform pedals
using track and field throwing or shot put shoes. Having retired a pair of
5 Ten Dirt Bag shoes I took a chance on a pair of reasonably priced Asics
throwing shows ($45.00). The guy at the shoe store was a bit
my feet are happiest in some 510 freeriders vxi and vp vice or Canfield
crampons.
The keep feet on the pedal and provide enough protection from it to ride double
centuries without any foot pain. I walk in minimalist footwear or barefoot To
keep feet strong, but on the bike I like a sturdier
I agree with Ron that your foot may be flexing too much, but disagree that
means you need to increase support. I believe it means you need to decrease
support and intentionally strengthen your foot.
The arch of the foot is a windlass mechanism. When running it absorbs
energy on landing, stores
Yes, the pedal change over the shoe change seems like a better option to
try first, because, if successful, then I can wear any shoe and not be tied
to a single shoe for cycling.
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What is your foot conundrum?
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if you have a sore foot, your arch is flexing too much - some of the energy
you want to go into the pedals is going into straining your foot. Sounds
like you may need a good arch support. With toe clips or clipless you load
the ball of your foot and a bike shoe with a shank is everything to
With the right kind of platform, you can ride any street shoe you want, no
matter how good or atrocious the sole is.
Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA
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Foot pain from riding, especially on rides more than 40 miles resulting in
ball of foot puffiness (not see-able, but feels like it when walking after
riding), and tip of big toe pain, with a little tingly line down the side
of big toe.
I don't think its good to keep punishing the dogs and its
Soft sole shoes need a wider/flatter surfaced pedal to distribute
downforce. Stiff soled shoes can get by with a tiny SPD or Eggbeater type
contact. Sounds like you have a soft sole and two narrow/linear points of
contact (MKS Touring). Either wear firmer-soled shoes, or get a platform
pedal. I'd
Yep, that's the idea! I know where you can get some MKS Sneaker Pedals
cheap! $20 shipped to your door!
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, the pedal change over the shoe change seems like a better option to
try first, because, if successful, then I can
Just buy Sabots or Heiruspecs. Also, +1 on what Patrick said about
strengthening your feet. I would highly recommend walking and riding in
minimalist shoes, as I've mentioned on the other thread. Build strength in your
feet and avoid repetitive stress injuries with a free and stable platform,
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