[RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Tom Mainelli
Thanks for all the great feedback. Much to ponder as the wait continues. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Garth
Get one of each. Install those quick cable splitters and you can switch any time you like ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Mike
On Monday, November 18, 2013 10:03:32 AM UTC-8, Garth wrote: Get one of each. Install those quick cable splitters and you can switch any time you like ;) I like this idea! Coupled with DT shifters, swaps would be super quick and clean. I've had my Hilsen for over 5yrs now and been

Re: [RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Patrick Moore
I'm curious about this too for my Fargo, so I'll chime in. It would be nice to make the Fargo more switchback competent with fatter and sturdier tires, bigger cassette, and other-than-drop bar. Swapping tires and cassette is easy. It's the bar that takes time. First, it would be a matter of

[RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Shoji Takahashi
If you use bar-end shifters, and you're switching to/from bars that accommodate, then you can do so without needing cable splitters or even additional bar ends. Here's a tutorial (not mine-- I used this to move from moustache to albatross): http://www.tamiasoutside.com/2008/08/24/barcons/ I

Re: [RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Shoji. This will work only if the swap is mindless and immediate: I am an immediate gratification sort of person. I'd want to be able to disconnect 4 cables quickly, remove stem, plop new stem/bar on the steerer (...ER...ER...ER), tighten, reconnect, and motor off into the sunset. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Garth
Yes Patrick , this is my idea too, it must really BE quick ,as in disconnect, remove bar/stem/cable to split point, put on other stem/bars/cables, and re-attach. Done. No Adjusting, other than the stem height which is a no brainer, (for most ... lol). The DaVinci splitters come in both

Re: [RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Garth
Yes Patrick , this is my idea too, it must really BE quick ,as in disconnect, remove One Unit(bar/stem/cable to split point), put on other Unit, and re-attach. Done. No Adjusting, other than the stem height which is a no brainer, (for most ... lol). The DaVinci splitters come in both

Re: [RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Perry
For switch-ability of cockpits, shifter cable splitters need to be installed. A good location is between the downtube and the bb cable guide for both front and back. Alternatively, the rear shifter cable can be split between the bb cable guide and chainstay rear derailleur boss. For brakes,

Re: [RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks -- that's useful. Can anyone else comment on the question of cable drag or absence of it, with the splitters? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Patrick , this is my idea too, it must really BE quick ,as in disconnect, remove bar/stem/cable to split

Re: [RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Perry
Set the splitters up correctly from the start and here is no problem whatsoever with shifting and switching is easy peasy. Did it for a quite a while. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread dougP
My Atlantis has Davinci cable splitters on the shift cables. With 8 speed Shimano indexed bar ends there is no adjustment needed. However, I put them on to make the bike easier to disassemble for shipping. I think you'd have to be careful at set-up to use them for quick change of handlebars.

Re: [RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
Now THOSE are some proper diagatubes! Dozens of lovely diagatubes! On Monday, November 18, 2013 1:32:59 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/18/2013 03:04 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: Thanks -- that's useful. Can anyone else comment on the question of cable drag or absence of it, with the

[RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Michael
If you usually ride drops, I'd say get the drop build. If you get drops, you might always wonder how it woulda been with drops. So just get it outta your system first. Then, get a set of Albii and put 'em on after a month and see which you like better. I have tried drops, Albii, and

[RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Michael
PS- You don't need no stinkin' splitters. Just undo the shifter pods an move them onto the Alba's. And you are gonna have to change the brake cables to MTB cables anyway to match the MTB levers for the Albas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Peter Morgano
That Moulton is amazing, never seen one in the flesh or ridden one but hope springs eternal. On Nov 18, 2013 7:38 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: PS- You don't need no stinkin' splitters. Just undo the shifter pods an move them onto the Alba's. And you are gonna have to change the

Re: [RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/18/2013 07:01 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: Thanks, Steve. Curious: you own so many bikes and ride so many miles: how does the Moulton compare to your favorite rando bikes in efficiency, handling, and that all important and ill-defined feel? Moultons have an interesting and unusual feel,

[RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-18 Thread Howard
Hi Tom, I'm a fellow lurker and, like you, I am waiting on a new Sam. I selected the albas mainly because my other bike has drops and I wanted a bit of variety in the stable. The way I see it you can't go wrong with either one. -Howard On Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:26:21 PM UTC-5, Tom

[RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-17 Thread Brian Campbell
I vote drops. I have had Alba's and don't care for them. I like Noodles. On Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:26:21 PM UTC-5, Tom Mainelli wrote: I've been lurking for some time, so I thought I'd introduce myself as I enter the home stretch of a long wait for my Sam. My name is Tom, I cover tech

[RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-17 Thread Johnny Alien
I always used drops on everything until I got my Sam with albas. If I had just one bike it would have Albas on it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
Albas, without a doubt. Worst case scenario is you decide you want to experiment with other bars. But the albas are amazing bars. Also, don't be afraid to get a tire that will give you the option of dirt and trail. You may well be surprised how much you enjoy impromptu exploration that Rivs

Re: [RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Bars are almost as personal as saddles, but I like Drops. My favorites: Road, lowish: bar none, none, none (NPI): Grand Bois Maes parallel -- narrow! 37 at hoods widening to ~40 at ends of hooks. I like them! The Noodles are almost as nice, if I use a stem 1 cm longer. This puts the Noodles a

[RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-17 Thread john
I've been riding a Hillborne since 2009, and I vote drops. Specifically the Nitto Noodle. According to the catalogue, as a 6' male, I ought to be riding a manly 46 or 48 cm bar, but I guess I'm more of a non-manly man, and really love the 44cm Noodle. I guess you could get a different

Re: [RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-17 Thread cyclotourist
98% of the time on the road, but for how long and at what intensity do you ride on any given outing? I like A-bars a lot, but find drops give more positions that I appreciate on rides over an hour. At higher speeds your are quite the wind brake as well. At 10MPH that doesn't matter as much, but if

[RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross

2013-11-17 Thread Tom Virgil
I am also Tom and I own a Sam. My Sam has inverted Albas. See here.http://www.flickr.com/photos/20853610@N05/10012872764/ It is my personal preference. They work well for me using Sam as an All Rounder country bike. Sam gets ridden on the road at a good clip, on dirt trails without