Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-29 Thread UNIXMAN
On Mon, 29 Jun 1998, Scott wrote: > On 6/29/98, at 3:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Stating that NT has a great deal of downtime is a pretty broad > statement. > >> I think it would be better to put that NT has a greater potential for > >> downtime but it can be just as stable as Unix

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-29 Thread Scott
On 6/29/98, at 3:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Stating that NT has a great deal of downtime is a pretty broad statement. >> I think it would be better to put that NT has a greater potential for >> downtime but it can be just as stable as Unix. Linux/Unix do to its >> maturaty has a greater

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-29 Thread Greg Thomas
> > I've done countless NT installs (workstation and server) and about 15 RH > > installs (on the same two boxes do to my inexperience with Linux) and can > > say that Linux is not up to NT for ease of installation. Redhat is making > > great inroads but the lack up pnp support and other harware

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-29 Thread jp
> Stating that NT has a great deal of downtime is a pretty broad statement. > I think it would be better to put that NT has a greater potential for > downtime but it can be just as stable as Unix. Linux/Unix do to its > maturaty has a greater potential for uptime but it can be unstable. I have >

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-29 Thread Scott
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 6/26/98, at 2:55 AM, William T Wilson wrote: >On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Tony Wells wrote: > >> For the client workstation ease of use and penetration of >> application software is the driver. Win9x and NT are the clear > >Right. We all agree that there

Re: Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-26 Thread Lloyd Parsons
-Original Message- From: Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, June 26, 1998 3:18 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95? > >*** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *** > >On 6/26/98,

Fwd: Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-26 Thread Scott
*** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *** On 6/26/98, at 10:41 AM, Tony Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >William (Bill?) T Wilson wrote: > >Considerable time and training is also required to set up a >>Windows NT server for a corporate site that works at all; I don't WRONG. I have NO

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-26 Thread Tony Wells
William (Bill?) T Wilson wrote: Considerable time and training is also required to set up a >Windows NT server for a corporate site that works at all; I don't think >it's possible to make a stable NT server, and the training required for >making one secure and efficient is at least as much as the

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-26 Thread Damond Walker
> >BTW, "will result" is a small misstatement. These have always been >business' needs, and that's why Microsoft uses 14 AS/400s to drive their >business instead of a boatload of NT servers. > An old joke in IBM circles goes: "He makes his money with NT, but counts it on AS/400's" --

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
-Original Message- From: Tony Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, June 25, 1998 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95? >business needs for resilience will result in a demand for simple, >self i

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-26 Thread Tony Wells
birna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Tony Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, June 26, 1998 3:54 AM Subject: Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95? >On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Tony Wells wrote: > >> For the client workstati

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-26 Thread William T Wilson
On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Tony Wells wrote: > For the client workstation ease of use and penetration of > application software is the driver. Win9x and NT are the clear Right. We all agree that there is less application software for Linux than for Windows, there is no doubt about that, and that the

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-25 Thread Richard Rager
I am going to start from ground zero a little bit 0. First: Linux make one heck of a back end server! a> I does not crash. I should send BILL a check and a thank you letter for as much as the NT boxes go down, do to software problems. These are servers have only MS software installed.

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-25 Thread Cristian Tibirna
On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Tony Wells wrote: > For the client workstation ease of use and penetration of > application software is the driver. Win9x and NT are the clear > winners here. Those client OSs will stay with us until another > supplier provides a viable alternative. I'm not holding my breath.

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-25 Thread Tony Wells
On the server side, under ideal conditions, Linux could be a viable alternative to other brands of server OSs for fileservers and stuff. However I further argue below that Linux and Unix are not the OSs of the future. For the client workstation ease of use and penetration of application software

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
-Original Message- From: Michael Jinks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95? >What if (and I won't be surprised if RH does this when the gnome

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
-Original Message- From: Anthony E. Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95? >In the first place, I don't think Linux vs Win95 is as appropr

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
-Original Message- From: Rich Kulawiec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 5:11 PM Subject: Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95? >Yes to the first, but no to the second. Granmda should have a Mac, s

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-25 Thread Robert W. Canary
Wonderful Idea! So when do we start! -- robert Michael Jinks wrote: > > 20:35 6/24/98 -0400, Dale Leonard wrote: > > >If RH makes X windows a little easier to configure, then MS will have > > >NOTHING on Linux, as most people (esp. newbies) are uncomfortable with > > >the command line interfac

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-24 Thread Michael Jinks
20:35 6/24/98 -0400, Dale Leonard wrote: > >If RH makes X windows a little easier to configure, then MS will have > >NOTHING on Linux, as most people (esp. newbies) are uncomfortable with > >the command line interface. Here's a thought: There are already two "specialized" versions of Linux coming

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-24 Thread Anthony E. Greene
At 20:35 6/24/98 -0400, Dale Leonard wrote: >If RH makes X windows a little easier to configure, then MS will have >NOTHING on Linux, as most people (esp. newbies) are uncomfortable with >the command line interface. In the first place, I don't think Linux vs Win95 is as appropriate as Linux vs

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-24 Thread Dale Leonard
>> Further resolved: Linux isn't an appropriate OS for your grandma. Windows >> 95 is. >Yes to the first, but no to the second. Granmda should have a Mac, so that >she can install and configure her own software a high degree of probability >that she won't break the last piece of software she in

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-24 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 04:20:23PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: > Resolved: We should be pushing Linux as an alternative to Windows NT Server, > Novell Netware, and commercial Unixes that target x86 and comparable > "desktop" hardware, but we should not be pushing it in anything like it's > present

Re: Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-24 Thread Greg Thomas
> Further resolved: Linux isn't an appropriate OS for your grandma. Windows > 95 is. Why not? My mother, a grandma, was able to install and use RH 5.0 herself. She did nothing but complain about Windows 95 before so I sent her RH 5.0. > > And finally resolved: If you try to convince grandma

Should we be pushing Linux over Windows 95?

1998-06-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
It's a good question. I'll enumerate my views as to why not more completely as the thread continues, but in order to focus it I wanted to start this new thread around this point: Resolved: We should be pushing Linux as an alternative to Windows NT Server, Novell Netware, and commercial Unixes t