Penn & Teller illustrate the value of vaccinations.
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2015/01/watch-2-magicians-destroy-anti-vaccine-movement-90-seconds.html
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Legislators and others might also think that people have rights beyond those
set out in the Constitution or provided
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I think I agree with everything Paul says here, and I didn't mean to suggest
naivete or anything else; I just
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I'm skeptical that state legislators (for the most part) have
more broadly. Or am I mistaken on this?
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My colleague Fred Schauer has just published a new book suggesting that neither
politicians nor most Americans care what the law is. They comply only when
there is a realistic prospect of sanctions. Discouraging, but there it is.
Which is why I also teach Remedies. An overview of Fred's book is
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I'm skeptical that state legislators (for the most part) have formed any
informed views about the constitutionality one way or another. I think they are
motivated by the things legislators tend to be motivated by: constituents,
focused intere
I'm skeptical that state legislators (for the most part) have formed any
informed views about the constitutionality one way or another. I think they
are motivated by the things legislators tend to be motivated by:
constituents, focused interest groups, the path of least resistance,
calculations of
Lederman
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Once again: What question are we asking?
I thought we were discussing what exemptions, if any, a legislature should
enact (or, more to the p
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The idea that state legislators, faced with home schooling questions, are
reflecting on
The idea that state legislators, faced with home schooling questions, are
reflecting on the "best reading" of Pierce, Yoder, or the Constitution (and
which parts of that would they be reading?) strikes me as spectacularly
fanciful. If they cared about what legal research disclosed (rather than
wha
Of course, it is also possible that these legislators believe that it *is*
unconstitutional to heavily regulate homeschooling, either because it's the
best reading of Yoder and Pierce going forward (and given the premise that
those decisions leave the point unresolved), or because they are indep
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[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene
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Doug is mostly correct. The few lower court decisions on point have generally
limited Yoder to the Amish (it is sometimes referred to in the cases and
litera
Once again: What question are we asking?
I thought we were discussing what exemptions, if any, a legislature should
enact (or, more to the point, repeal). And surely it'd be ridiculous for a
legislature to craft an exemption limited to "minors who promise they'll
never have sex."
Will, on the o
Doug is mostly correct. The few lower court decisions on point have
generally limited Yoder to the Amish (it is sometimes referred to in the
cases and literature as "the Amish exception).
However, I think it is mistake to say that the legality of homeschooling
across the country is purely a result
I much appreciate Will’s responses; let me offer some in turn.
Will writes:
(a) When you say you agree that the vaccination analysis might vary by specific
vaccine, I assume you mean that the government might have a harder time proving
a compelling governmental interest for some va
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One point which has not been mentioned in this thread is that homeschoolers and
religious communities oftentimes object to vaccination on a vaccine specific
basis, rather tha
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If I remember correctly, in Texas the tipping point was a court decision,
Leeper v. Arlington, in which the court recog
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This is impressionistic and not based on a systematic survey, but home
schoolers lost most of their cases challenging restrictions on home schooling.
For better or worse, courts said Yoder was only about
This is impressionistic and not based on a systematic survey, but home
schoolers lost most of their cases challenging restrictions on home
schooling. For better or worse, courts said Yoder was only about the Amish.
Home schoolers won their battle in most states politically, through the
legislature
I think Yoder set the stage for exemptions from schools and for people to
demand, first on religious grounds, and then on secular grounds, the right to
keep their children completely out of any schools. There was a significant
rise in home schooling after Yoder, although I do not have the stati
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