[Repeater-Builder] Re: Commercial Trunking repeater

If you're intersted in talking more about Commercial Trunking options we might possibly go somewhere else. This group is probably sick of the thread already and I'm not sure how proper it is to yak about the subject here. cheers, skipp

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Commercial Trunking repeater

> CSI Seems to have some nice controllers however there could > be an issue here with radios being cloned and then put onto > my ltr without my knowledge. Sounds like you're more worried about a clone problem that most people would need to be. Just pay attention to what's going on and you'll p

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Receiver Wanted

ahhh when you are looking for part with blind eyes,,, i have the TLD8272B which is good for 132 to 150 mhz, dont laugh at me al G Original Message Follows From: Kevin Custer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Receiver Wanted

well i have check in the Micor i have here,there is the : TLD5321A ,which is by my big 2.5 inch Red Motorola book the Exiter TLD8272B , TRN6006A1 Audio and squelch it may seems that i am missing one control card what would be like in Master 2,a Repeater card or Repeater Control Card ??

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Commercial Trunking repeater

OK first off Thanks everyone for your help. Trunking is a fairly new concept here so bare with me as I ask a few more questions. First off, CSI Seems to have some nice controllers however there could be an issue here with radios being cloned and then put onto my ltr without my knowledge. Is t

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Receiver Wanted

gervais fillion wrote: > hi kevin > i may have found one receiver near my qth,, > i made an offer i am waiting the responsewhat is the value for a used > receiver on the market??now A Real TLD8272 receiver sells on eBay for $125.00 or more. They are very rare here in the US. You may be abl

[Repeater-Builder] selectone ST-40

I'm looking for technical info for the Selectone ST-40 . any Ideas ...Luc VE3JGL.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Commercial Trunking repeater

> > It depends how it was programmed. Each unit could have a unique > > ID. But, your system would be limited to 250 radios or so. > > Joe M. > > There were group ID's, but no unit ID's. Maybe if you gave each unit a > group ID, and then set the radios to scan for all groups. But everyone > wou

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Receiver Wanted

hi kevin i may have found one receiver near my qth,, i made an offer i am waiting the responsewhat is the value for a used receiver on the market??now gervais,ve2ckn Original Message Follows From: Kevin Custer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeat

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Commercial Trunking repeater

> Mike Morris WA6ILQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I remember reading an article several years ago about a problem > with LTR... It's a "reported problem"... and it's easily detected, prevented and dealt with when found. The "reporter" was someone doing a sales pitch for the Passport Format.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Commercial Trunking repeater

> LTR is good for businesses, contractors, etc, but it does have > a slow(er) channel access time then other formats. In a good system the difference in access time should not really even be an issue or even noticed by the user. Plus there is no LTR requirement for a non voice control channel r

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Commercial Trunking repeater

You have the basic idea. If someone has 10 radios, they use 10 IDs. The radios need not scan all groups - only those 10 used in their company. I maintained such a system with many companies on it. Some all used one group. Some had unique groups for each radio. Some had several groups. Some had grou

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Commercial Trunking repeater

mch wrote: > It depends how it was programmed. Each unit could have a unique ID. But, > your system would be limited to 250 radios or so. > > Joe M. There were group ID's, but no unit ID's. Maybe if you gave each unit a group ID, and then set the radios to scan for all groups. But everyone woul

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Commercial Trunking repeater

It depends how it was programmed. Each unit could have a unique ID. But, your system would be limited to 250 radios or so. Joe M. Jim B. wrote: > > > I remember reading an article several years ago about a problem with LTR... > > Joe's trucking goes out and buys time on a trunked system and 5 >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting back on topic WAS: A little OT perhaps...

At 01:18 PM 01/30/07, you wrote: >Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: > > 4freq 220 (2m Motran modified) > > and 6freq 440. > > > > Mike WA6ILQ > >I think you mentioned that once before-it'd be interesting if there was >an article for that...I have a Motran in the garage with a M-70 DTMF >head and a GLB for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Commercial Trunking repeater

> I remember reading an article several years ago about a problem with LTR... > Joe's trucking goes out and buys time on a trunked system and 5 > radios, then has one of them cloned into 10 more. Trunked operator now has > 15 users and Joe is paying for 5 plus airtime. The article mentioned an >

[Repeater-Builder] Getting back on topic WAS: A little OT perhaps...

Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: > 4freq 220 (2m Motran modified) > and 6freq 440. > > Mike WA6ILQ I think you mentioned that once before-it'd be interesting if there was an article for that...I have a Motran in the garage with a M-70 DTMF head and a GLB for it...have to change the offset oscillator-i

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Commercial Trunking repeater

Then you hear a radio on the air with the same ID as one on your bench and either shut them off or threaten 'theft of services' charges. Then, if you're a particularly nasty person, you charge them for the units that were not paid for as long as they had them. Joe M. (no, I have no trucking co) M

Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...

At 11:52 AM 2007-01-30 -0500, you wrote: I cannot believe how incredibly stupid legislators are. The problem is NOT with using a cell phone, or anything else. The problem is that (1) these people are CRAPPY drivers, and do not belong on the road in the first place, and (2) driver's education in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...

At 08:52 AM 01/30/07, you wrote: >Ken Arck wrote: > > but the morons who run our State are considering this (time to > > mobilize Oregon hams(coming to a State near you?) > > > > http://www.leg.state.or.us/07reg/measures/sb0200.dir/sb0293.intro.html > >I cannot believe how incredibly stupid

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Commercial Trunking repeater

At 08:51 AM 01/30/07, you wrote: >wadeds2003 wrote: > > Hello everyone. I am a Icom, Vertex, HYT dealer out of Canada. I am > > looking at putting up a UHF trunking repeater in the 450-470 MHz > > range. I think I am leaning towards a LTR system however I do not > > have very much expirence with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT ...

There was a joke about the Italian cab-driver who'd brag about waving at the girls out both windows -- at the same time ... Ummm.. nevermind. Tho there might be some correlation to what lawmakers are using for brains. > "Jim B." wrote: > It ticks me off when I see these people that insist on t

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: I'm not that bold - new manufacturer?

At 09:32 AM 01/30/07, you wrote: > > Didn't China take over Taiwan back in the 80's or something? > >Not on your life. > >A very tense armed standoff has been in place for many many years. Mainland china considers Taiwan to be a rebellious province. Taiwan, and the rest of the world considers it

Re: [Repeater-Builder] I'm not that bold - new manufacturer?

At 08:04 AM 01/30/07, you wrote: >Kevin Custer wrote: > > Their stuff has flooded eBay for several months. > > I'd say it's made in China > > No further comment, > > > > Kevin > > > >Just wait till we start seeing Chinese cars...you thought the Yugo was >bad... >-- >Jim Barbour >WD8CHL Oh? You

[Repeater-Builder] Re: I'm not that bold - new manufacturer?

> You could ask the guys at Sealand (http://www.sealandgov.org) - but > they wouldn't sell to the Pirate's Bay last week. LOL. Hmm.. Would be an interesting site for a repeater. 1000' tower? Hmm, let me check with the zoning board. Hey ME, is it ok? Might be interesting when the weather gets rou

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Commercial Trunking repeater

30 January 2007 Hello Everyone After seeing many posts for Commercial Repeaters I am compelled to post this Commercial Message. We import the R F Technology product from Australia. I started using this to satisfy my need for high power, reliable, servicable, agile repeater systems. Over the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: I'm not that bold - new manufacturer?

On 1/30/07, Dave VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I was thinking Hong Kong voice>nevermind... > > Yup. Britain leased it from the chinese, and the lease ran out. > > I wonder what a country goes for these days? :) You could ask the guys at Sealand (http://www.sealandgov.org) - but th

Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...

New Mexico has a similar bill awaiting passage. Only the hands-free verbiage is missing in the New Mexico bill. Hams are not excluded from the ticket. The fine is $30 plus court costs. 73 - Jim W5ZIT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: T

[Repeater-Builder] Re: I'm not that bold - new manufacturer?

> I was thinking Hong Kongnevermind... Yup. Britain leased it from the chinese, and the lease ran out. I wonder what a country goes for these days? :)

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: I'm not that bold - new manufacturer?

Dave VanHorn wrote: >> Didn't China take over Taiwan back in the 80's or something? > > Not on your life. > > A very tense armed standoff has been in place for many many years. I was thinking Hong Kongnevermind... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL

[Repeater-Builder] Re: I'm not that bold - new manufacturer?

-- > They promise the moon and almost deliver it. The radios work pretty > well except they shoot themselves in the foot with what appears to > be a 3-cent mic element. So the tx audio sounds like the user has > a sock/rag (or equiv) in his/her mouth. If they get the tx audio > problem fixed.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: I'm not that bold - new manufacturer?

> "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just wait till we start seeing Chinese cars...you thought > the Yugo was bad... I have seen the new Chinese made cars for the US Market... and if the one I've seen becomes available for regular sale here in the US... GM and Ford are going to be in much

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 820 MHz duplexer problem:urgent !!

It is not possible to get a notch that is 8 MHz wide. What you probably have is a pass band filter. It sounds like you have what is called a "duplexer" for an 800 MHz trunking system. The "duplexer" is usually a set of 4 or 6 cavities set up as a wide band pass filter for the receive side. The

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

> Normally for side-mounting on a normal tower, one wavelength will get > you close to an omni pattern, I'm not trying to get to an omni pattern, I know that's impossible. What I want to do is approximate the pattern that I will get, and look at that (using RM) against the terrain, and see wh

[Repeater-Builder] Re: I'm not that bold - new manufacturer?

> Didn't China take over Taiwan back in the 80's or something? Not on your life. A very tense armed standoff has been in place for many many years.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: A little OT perhaps...

> As is likely the case for most people here, I learned how to drive with > the steering wheel in one hand and a microphone in the other. If you > can't do that, you do NOT belong on the road! Ah, but you see we are (largely) engineers, and suffer from the mindset that the way you fix a prob

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hand Held radios as repeaters

gregmrfs wrote: > Hi! > > I want to build my first repeater using 2 hand held radios mounted in > a pelican case with a gel cell for power. > > I have no idea where to start or what is required to build the > repeater. Can anyone give me some ideas on connecting the radios? So > far I think I hav

Re: [Repeater-Builder] I'm not that bold - new manufacturer?

Ken Arck wrote: > At 08:04 AM 1/30/2007, you wrote: > > >> Just wait till we start seeing Chinese cars...you thought the Yugo was >> bad... > > <---Good point. One hour after you fill them, they're empty > > Ken They'll run on fish-heads, though... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...

Ken Arck wrote: > but the morons who run our State are considering this (time to > mobilize Oregon hams(coming to a State near you?) > > http://www.leg.state.or.us/07reg/measures/sb0200.dir/sb0293.intro.html I cannot believe how incredibly stupid legislators are. The problem is NOT with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MICOR BASE OR REPEATER ON BATTERIES?

Doug Dickinson wrote: > You CAN run a Micor base station on 12VDC, but you > have to arrange a switchover from the 12V supply to > the regulator board in the Micor power supply. As was > said, you need 9.7 or so volts to run much of the > control and logic functions and the power supply > derives t

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Commercial Trunking repeater

wadeds2003 wrote: > Hello everyone. I am a Icom, Vertex, HYT dealer out of Canada. I am > looking at putting up a UHF trunking repeater in the 450-470 MHz > range. I think I am leaning towards a LTR system however I do not > have very much expirence with trunking repeaters as they are not all

Re: [Repeater-Builder] I'm not that bold - new manufacturer?

Kevin Custer wrote: > Kevin Custer wrote: >> I'd say it's made in China > > Scratch that, you are correct, Taiwan > http://www.temwell.com.tw/BS%202+2%20size.htm > > Kevin Didn't China take over Taiwan back in the 80's or something? -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...

Ken Arck wrote: > <---Then you shouldn't use it. It's not up to the Gov't to tell you that > you CAN'T use it. > > By the way, my understanding is that after NYC put their cell phone ban > in place, it had ZERO effects on accidents. Leave it to politicians to > enact crap that doesn't work

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

Dave VanHorn wrote: >> I would suggest 1/2 wave away from the surrounding metal as a > minimum, but try and get as far away as you can. >> > > Yes, but what's bugging me is that I'm sure there are BAD distances, > especially up close within 1-2 wavelengths Normally for side-mounting on a nor

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

Ok, the sector thing is interesting, but we've drifted FAR away from the question I was trying to answer. Can anyone direct me to information, or modeling software (preferrably free) that can predict the pattern of an omni antenna, at various distances from a large cylindrical water tower?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...

Jack, I see your point, done that my self. But if u set up will in a parking lot, and while driving, hit the PTT key, your relativly safe. Seeing as how this is a techinal field, not many "ID10T"s are out there. Think most of us can multi-task holding a mic and driving at the same time. Like

Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...

At 08:16 AM 1/30/2007, you wrote: On the other hand, I need to join in here. True it seems like everyone has a cell phone glued to their ears these days. But from the ham radio aspect, cell phones aren't nearly as attention consuming as setting up your mobile whilst driving! Many times I've

Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...

On the other hand, I need to join in here. True it seems like everyone has a cell phone glued to their ears these days. But from the ham radio aspect, cell phones aren't nearly as attention consuming as setting up your mobile whilst driving! Many times I've swerved dangerously all over the ro

Re: [Repeater-Builder] I'm not that bold - new manufacturer?

At 08:04 AM 1/30/2007, you wrote: >Just wait till we start seeing Chinese cars...you thought the Yugo was >bad... <---Good point. One hour after you fill them, they're empty Ken

Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...

You know, There is a lot of states out there and cities, and for me, bases, that permit talking on cellphones while driving. The msg that would get reported out of this would be the cell phone part as the masses in this country use cellphones all the time. I am curious as to how many other pla

Re: [Repeater-Builder] I'm not that bold - new manufacturer?

Kevin Custer wrote: > Their stuff has flooded eBay for several months. > I'd say it's made in China > No further comment, > > Kevin > Just wait till we start seeing Chinese cars...you thought the Yugo was bad... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...

Wonder if they'll be amending this to reclassify tow-trucks as 'emergency' .. or the highway dept .. or ... Time for a photo of the legislator pulling away from the drive-thru with a fresh coffee in-hand... Ken Arck wrote: but the morons who run our State are considering this (time to mobil

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

skipp025 wrote: > Which reminds me that I should have mentioned the available scan > of club using a series of yagi antennas around a wide tower to > obtain a quasi omni pattern. You can probably find the info > on the repeater builder antenna page along with the mounting offset > paper I men

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hand Held radios as repeaters

I did something of the sort using FRS radios on a hunting lease where terrain did not allow everyone to communicate with each other. I tied the audio out put of one to the mic input of the other and vice versa. They were set in VOX mode and each radio was set to a different channel. One group

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Too fast squelch on GE Master

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Really! I noticed some decay problems with an RLC-MOT we have on an SCom > 7k. I've always attributed it to COS line propagation delay in the > controller, but perhaps the 2.2 µF cap is the major culprit. We solved the > problem by using the onboard audio gating, w

RE: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...

Ken, The problem/s is/are; there is a lot of people that should not be allowed to drive much less while using a hand held communications device! Those people are the ones they are basing this law on, not those of us that have driven and used all sorts of communications equipment (repeaters inclu

[Repeater-Builder] fs-ge meter panel

someone was looking for a meter panel for a ge base. wel i found one with 2 meters on it whilst stumbling thru the 'garach'...thats how its pronounced here in chicago i have pix that i can email. it has no wiring harness. I believe its from a mastrpro base but, meters is meters. lemme know. mdm

[Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...

but the morons who run our State are considering this (time to mobilize Oregon hams(coming to a State near you?) http://www.leg.state.or.us/07reg/measures/sb0200.dir/sb0293.intro.html 74th OREGON LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY--2007 Regular Session NOTE: Matter within { + braces and plus sig

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MICOR BASE OR REPEATER ON BATTERIES?

You CAN run a Micor base station on 12VDC, but you have to arrange a switchover from the 12V supply to the regulator board in the Micor power supply. As was said, you need 9.7 or so volts to run much of the control and logic functions and the power supply derives that from 12V. You need to make tha

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower

_ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave VanHorn Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower --- In Repeater-Builder@

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Hand Held radios as repeaters

Check this out. This may be of help. http://www.arrowantennas.com/uconrtoller.html Bill Bill Collins KG4BKO EC Toombs County [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.cybersouth.com/wdcollins Vidalia, GA 146.625(-) 442.500(+)88.5 - --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by your Internet Service Provide

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Setting Up A New Repeater

Thank you for the comments, all will be accepted. To answer a couple of the questions, at the initial site, this repeater will be the only radio system in place and operating. At the final location, it will be included in a section that maintains other amatuer equipment and commercial public safe

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 820 MHz duplexer problem:urgent !!

the capacitor is ceramic type. can you please give me the construction detail of this type of duplexer. please give me. waiting for you. skipp025 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What type of material is the capacitor made from? skipp > vikas gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > please ad

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2 meter repeater

_ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave VanHorn Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:21 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2 meter repeater --- In Repeater-Builder@

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hand Held radios as repeaters

Thanks Eric, It will be for experimental purposes mainly with a fairly low duty cycle. I was looking at the UHF 470Mhz band because I can get radios cheap for those freqs. I am not sure about the seperation I am not interested in large power outputs, I am looking at 5w max. Thanks Greg ---

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Setting Up A New Repeater

_ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 5:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Setting Up A New Repeater At 02:13 PM 1/29/2007, you wrote: On 1/29/07, Jeff D

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter repeater

On 1/25/07, IF YOUR NICE I MAY TELL YOU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all another question do you need 1 0r 2 antenna's on a repeater. You need to study up at the Repeater Builder website... http://www.repeater-builder.com, same name as the mailing list. You'll find PLENTY of study materials t