[Repeater-Builder] Re: stitching schematics together

2009-09-02 Thread csahanin
I've done this by a very tedious method. Scan the 8-1/2X11 sections to BMP files, then in MS PAint create a new image the correct size and paste each section in, using mouse control to line up edges of adjacent bmp's, then print to a pdf. Its important to get the initial image size correct in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Narrow Banding and VHF Low Band

2009-09-02 Thread Tony KT9AC
Does anyone know if a MSF5000 converted to narrowband operation would be legal under Part 90 after 2013? Tony Gary wrote: Don't know where you got the below 512Mhz comment from (except perhaps a sloppy comment in a recent article printed in Urgent Communications) but here's what the R O

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread Jim Brown
One of the local repeater operators used an antenna at the top of a 100 ft tower that got bent over during last winter storms.  He put up a temporary antenna at the tower base and is experiencing some really bad desense with the low antenna. He is using a GE Mastr II base station repeater and

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
Hi Jim All, Thanks for the info responses. I took down the 224 found that the N connector on the end wasn't quite up to snuff. I am going to put a ham antenna on it - think it's a ringo2 or some such thing, just to see how an antenna with good swr will work in the desense arena. Then I'll

[Repeater-Builder] FS: Scom 7K, NHRC DADM

2009-09-02 Thread kk2ed
For Sale: Scom 7K repeater controller LED front panel Speech Synthesizer Module NO patch module, NO dadm installed. Latest firmware V2.03B Manual on CD. Unit has the normal scratches from being installed in a repeater rack, but not abused. No mods or repairs to the boards, and it works

[Repeater-Builder] FS: LDG RVS-8 voter

2009-09-02 Thread kk2ed
For sale: LDG RVS-8 voter. Unit in working condition. A little dusty from years at a site. The only minor issue is that the top cover is missing. $220 shipped. Eric KE2D 609-713-3742

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
Hi All, And the winner is. Door # 2. Put the 2 meter vertical up on the stick at the end of the hard line, the desense was worse! Perfect match at the feed line end. Took dummy load put on far end of hard line no desense. Guess it is the proximity to the antenna. Although about 100',

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread Stanley Stanukinos
look at all your repeater sheilding and interconnect cables from repeater dto duplexer and those cables. you appear to be getting signal ingress through the recieve side somehow. I have had antenna on top of the repeater using a mag mount and not had problems. Good luck this is a tough problem

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrow Banding and VHF Low Band

2009-09-02 Thread skipp025
In the real world... it's only the responsibility of the License holder to ensure the transmitter emissions are legal and based on my conversations with a few FCC types means they are within the normal legal parameters/operation/scope of the license They have much bigger fish to fry...

Re: [Repeater-Builder]

2009-09-02 Thread Herman Niedzielski
Eric Lemmon wrote: Randy, Rather than scan large schematics piecemeal, simply take the sheets to a commercial graphics shop (some Kinko's may have the 11 by 17 equipment) and have them scan the document in one piece. My local graphics shop can handle huge schematics, so I take all

[Repeater-Builder] Repeater trouble

2009-09-02 Thread John Sehring
Hi all, We have a puzzling problem with our two 2m repeater networks. They all use Mitrek's on 2m and Maxtrac's on UHF for linking; each network has a handful of satellite repeaters, all on diff. 2m freqs of course.  All satellites use one of two UHF freqs for simplex linking to their hub

Re: [Repeater-Builder]

2009-09-02 Thread Wesley Bazell
No Picture. Just a bunch of Mumbo Jumble - Original Message - From: Herman Niedzielski k2...@myactv.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Eric Lemmon wrote: Randy, Rather than scan large schematics

Re: [Repeater-Builder]

2009-09-02 Thread Wesley Bazell
Sorry about that Did not mean to send it to you - Original Message - From: Wesley Bazell wesley...@verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] No Picture. Just a bunch of Mumbo Jumble - Original

[Repeater-Builder] Text missing

2009-09-02 Thread kerinvale
Hi guys .I was wondering in my last posts some of my text was missing when I received the email . Is it a fault this end or is in the settings of the yahoo group Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715 Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater trouble

2009-09-02 Thread Paul Plack
I heard a similar problem with an ARES net in Oregon. One of the county EOC's had installed a high rooftop antenna for the hams, and could be worked on simplex for many miles, but into the main ARES 2m repeater it sounded as you described, to the point it was unintelligible. It was fine into

[Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-652/WP-653: different year, different specs

2009-09-02 Thread no6b
I dug up an old spec. sheet for the above 220 MHz duplexer in the shack today. Wondering if this sheet was available on the web somewhere (so I could throw it away - cleaning up), I did find it on Repeater-Builder at http://www.repeater-builder.com/wacom/wp652.pdf However, there are some

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread Scott Overstreet
Tim Been there and done that! My guess is that you have corrosion in the antenna on top. The corrosion makes a good wide band rectifier of your transmit power and produces sufficient noise at your receive frequency to get back through your duplexer and into your receiver as desense. Actually,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread purvissid
You mentioned 100 ft hoz separation, I don't think that is enough, but don't have a chart handy where I am now. Sid. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, tahrens301 tahr...@... wrote: Hi Jim All, Thanks for the info responses. I took down the 224 found that the N connector on

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
Thanks to all... I guess it could be corrosion at the antenna, but the one that is on it now is pretty simple, not much opportunity for corrosion. I am going to put up the 2nd DB-224 tomorrow see what difference it makes... I don't really think it'll change much, but it will let me play with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread Scott Overstreet
Tim--- I forgot that you spoke of 100' antenna separation. This suggests no duplexer and two feedlines. The meat of my story is still good---a corroded transmit antenna is capable of making and radiating allot of receive frequency noise ---even with between antenna pattern attenuation, there

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
Hi Scott, The 100' of separation is from the repeater to where the antenna is located. I have a Telewave 6 cavity BpBr duplexer on the system. Single feed to one antenna. Thanks, Tim W5FN --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Scott Overstreet sc...@... wrote: Tim--- I forgot

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread n3dab
I've been following this thread on and off. I was wondering if you tried replacing the 100' plus run of RG-214 with another cable. Or if you have pulled the connectors on each end to see if they are properly installed. (I have had connectors installed by the cable supplier that were bad. in

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
Hi Daniel, I wanted to check things out on the ground before heading up to the tower. So far it's been a trainwreck! Maybe the distance is an issue. Thanks, Tim --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, daniel haines ridet...@... wrote: Why don't you raise the antenna, and get the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread daniel haines
Why don't you raise the antenna, and get the repeater out of the RF field? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: tahr...@swtexas.net Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 21:32:35 + Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense? Hi Scott, The 100' of separation is from the repeater

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
Hi Doug, I put the connectors on the hardline myself, was very careful in doing so. Also did an RF check with a dummy load on the end, and no loss/problems. I am going to concentrate on the actual connectors from the Quantar. thanks, Tim --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread larynl2
I still think it may be something in the vicinity of the antenna. What kind of building is the antenna mounted on/above? You've stated that the repeater is in a metal pole building that's 100ft. away from the antenna. It's been mentioned before in this thread, but that could be a noise

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
The antenna is on the top of a small wooden storage building. A mast is placed up against the peak of the roof, and the 224 is on top of that. The metal building that the repeater is in is my garage. Very plain, no air condx, AC power runs around the pearlings about 4' off the ground. Gonna

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Narrow Banding and VHF Low Band

2009-09-02 Thread ka1jfy
Unless someone had a standardized kit, and had the radio tested for recertification by the FCC, then NO. I know of NO pre 1997 radios that have been certificated for adherence to the current emission mask for 'narrowband'. WalterH BTW, it's after 2012. Narrowbanding must be completed PRIOR to

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread n3dab
I know the frustration your dealing with. When you did your RF tests, were you keying the XMTR. thru the local mic. or with the rcvr. disabled, or were you in the full rpt. mode and using another radio (HT) or low power signal source? My problems only showed up in the full rpt. mode, after i

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Text missing

2009-09-02 Thread ka1jfy
Yahoo is notorious for not handling HTML mail very well. Plus, if you are using Outlook, there is a specific issue with the way it codes quoted material. Best suggestion is to send only in plain text, and have it delivered in Traditional' not 'Fully Featured' format. WalterH --- In

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Text missing

2009-09-02 Thread kerinvale
Thanks I am using incredimail .ill check the settings Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715 Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au ---Original Message--- From: ka1jfy Date: 3/09/2009 08:52:13 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Fw: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread John Sehring
Does anybody use anything like Caig's DeOxit products?  I'd treat each every connector in the system, inside outside the electronic cabinets, e.g. coax connectors. I find it works extremely well, indoors out.  I've been using it for years.  I have restored equipment rendered near-useless by

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread Eric Lemmon
Tim, I believe you stated in a previous message that the antenna was 100 feet away, horizontally. That is light years away from it being 100 feet ABOVE the repeater. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] COR board for simple repeater??

2009-09-02 Thread Azman Ismail
Hi Gervais' You can check with this site www.hs9dmc.com. Regards 9w6man --- Pada Khm, 20/8/09, Rick Szajkowski va3r...@gmail.com menulis: Daripada: Rick Szajkowski va3r...@gmail.com Subjek: Re: [Repeater-Builder] COR board for simple repeater?? Kepada: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Tarikh:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] PDF Page Scanner Choices?

2009-09-02 Thread George Henry
Finally got around to looking at the model number... It's a Fujitsu fi-5750c. Several on eBay right now, a couple are under $1000. As I said, the automatic document feeder will take 11 x whatever schematics (largest Moto page I've encountered was 11x37), and it'll even scan both sides of the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread Nate Duehr
On Sep 2, 2009, at 3:16 PM, tahrens301 wrote: Don - I can put the iso-tee in line, feed the atten port into the spectrum analyzer. It should show me if the xmtr is having problems. However, the current antenna is a perfect match - no reflected power at all, so I think the xmtr 'should' be

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna SWR = Desense?

2009-09-02 Thread tahrens301
Hi Eric, Hmmm, don't think I said above the station, but if I implied it, no, it's horizontal. I can look out the window see it! Nate - I only tried the 'ham quality' antenna because I knew it would be a better match than the DB224. It was easy to change, standing on a 6' ladder! Just