Re: FPSM : (was Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline)

2023-09-07 Thread Luca Lutterotti
t;> http://fpsm.radiographema.com/ <http://fpsm.radiographema.com/>) where we >>>> don’t care about extra lines as it is a Rietveld search-match. We don’t >>>> need to identify or search peaks. We don’t use peak positions, we just fit >>>> with the Rietveld. It is sl

Re: FPSM : (was Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline)

2023-09-07 Thread Luca Lutterotti
No they did not, I think the reviewer was American, in fact he was also wining about unfair competition by the EU that provides funds to develop technologies directly competing against US companies….. The FPSM was originally developed in 2013-2014 inside one EU project. I would have not develope

RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-07 Thread Scott Speakman
/ ) Unrestricted Document -Original Message- From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr On Behalf Of Reinhard Kleeberg Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 2:19 AM To: rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do

Re: FPSM : (was Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline)

2023-09-07 Thread Reinhard Kleeberg
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Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-07 Thread Matthew Rowles
d Philips 1710 diffractometer, > > > > vertical sample holder, scintillation counter, not much used because we > > > > had better instruments, hence this stupid test ;-) > > > > Armel > > > >> envoyé : 7 septembre 2023 à 10:57 > >> de : Reinh

Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-07 Thread Reinhard Kleeberg
@ill.fr objet : Re: Step-like basline Dear Luca, sorry, I don't understand the "mosaic crystal" eplanation, especially not the "non-centre position" issue. IMHO, when the pattern was measured at a "powder" Bragg-Brentano configuration, in reflection mode, axial an

Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-07 Thread Le Bail Armel
gt; Best>>>> Armel>>>>> envoyé : 6 septembre 2023 à 16:57>>> de : Frank Girgsdies >>> >>>> à : Le Bail Armel >>> >>>> Cc: Rietveld_L >>>> objet : Re: Step-like basline>>>>>>>>&g

Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-07 Thread Reinhard Kleeberg
aud: http://maud.radiographema.com <http://maud.radiographema/> On 6 Sep 2023, at 17:43, Le Bail Armel wrote: Dear Frank, Same as you. I have not a complete solution. Best Armel envoyé : 6 septembre 2023 à 16:57 de : Frank Girgsdies <mailto:girgs...@fhi-berlin.mpg.de>> à : Le Bai

FPSM : (was Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline)

2023-09-07 Thread Jonathan WRIGHT
tp://maud.radiographema.com/><http://maud.radiographema/ <http://maud.radiographema/>> Begin forwarded message: From: Reinhard Kleeberg Subject: Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline Date: 5 September 2023 at 08:56:15 CEST To: rietveld_l@ill.fr Reply-To: Reinhard Kleeberg Dear Luca, I comp

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-06 Thread Matthew Rowles
gt;> > Radovan Cerny >> > >> > Envoyé à partir de Outlook pour Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> >> > >> > From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr on >> > behalf of Reinhard Kleeberg >> > Sent: Tuesday, Septemb

Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-06 Thread Luca Lutterotti
es (I have a prototype running there). >> >> Best regards, >> >> Luca >> >> <http://www.unitn.it/> >> >> Luca Lutterotti >> Dipartimento di Ingegneria Industriale >> Università di Trento >> via Sommarive, 9 - 38123

Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-06 Thread Luca Lutterotti
gt; à : Le Bail Armel mailto:le-bail.ar...@orange.fr>> >> Cc: Rietveld_L mailto:Rietveld_L@ill.fr>> >> objet : Re: Step-like basline >> >> >> Dear Armel, >> >> Thanks for this nice quiz! >> >> However, after identifying the follow

Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-06 Thread Le Bail Armel
Dear Frank,Same as you. I have not a complete solution.BestArmelenvoyé : 6 septembre 2023 à 16:57de : Frank Girgsdies à : Le Bail Armel Cc: Rietveld_L objet : Re: Step-like baslineDear Armel,Thanks for this nice quiz!However, after identifying the following spectral impurities: Cu K_beta, W L_alp

Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-06 Thread Frank Girgsdies
Dear Armel, Thanks for this nice quiz! However, after identifying the following spectral impurities: Cu K_beta, W L_alpha1,2 W L_beta1,2,3,4 and W L_gamma1, I am stuck now, leaving bout 1/2 to 1/3 of the tiny extra peaks unexplained. Some of them look suspiciously like Cu K_alpha1+2 doubl

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-06 Thread Alan W Hewat
--- > *De :* rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr de la part > de Alan W Hewat > *Envoyé :* mercredi 6 septembre 2023 11:17 > *À :* Le Bail Armel > *Cc :* Rietveld_L > *Objet :* [EXTERNAL] Re: Step-like basline > > "*The biggest improvement was synchrotron radiation*

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-06 Thread Radovan Cerny
ny.htm De : rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr de la part de Alan W Hewat Envoyé : mercredi 6 septembre 2023 11:17 À : Le Bail Armel Cc : Rietveld_L Objet : [EXTERNAL] Re: Step-like basline "The biggest improvement was synchrotron radiation". No. The biggest imp

Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-06 Thread miguel gregorkiewitz
Nice example for real world, Armel! These huge flakes are by no means single crystals, so I tend to interpret the small peaks in the feet of the maxima as stemming from slightly misaligned regions, sort of graininess. Did you try under the polarizing microscope? Best Miguel El mié, 6 sep. 202

Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-06 Thread Alan W Hewat
"*The biggest improvement was synchrotron radiation*". No. The biggest improvement for the profile refinement of atomic and magnetic structures (Rietveld refinement in the strict sense) was high resolution neutron powder diffractometers with large area detectors :-) Even SR gives undue weight to he

Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-06 Thread Le Bail Armel
Hi,In the same subject.A special "powder pattern" to play with (try to explain all peaks) :http://cristal.org/muscovite.pdfBestArmel ++ Please do NOT attach files to the whole list Send commands to eg: HELP as the subject with no body

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-06 Thread Shay Tirosh
> > Radovan Cerny > > > > Envoyé à partir de Outlook pour Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> > > > > From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr on > > behalf of Reinhard Kleeberg > > Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 1:49:57 PM &g

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-05 Thread Reinhard Kleeberg
of Reinhard Kleeberg Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 1:49:57 PM To: rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline Dear Luca, I completely agree and will be very happy to have a 1D detector with sufficient energy resolution to resolve a "pure" Cu K

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-05 Thread Radovan Cerny
From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr on behalf of Reinhard Kleeberg Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 1:49:57 PM To: rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline Dear Luca, I completely agree and will be very happy to have a 1D detector with sufficient energy re

Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-05 Thread Reinhard Kleeberg
4-14 (Office), -34 (X-Ray lab)  Maud: http://maud.radiographema.com <http://maud.radiographema/> Begin forwarded message: From: Reinhard Kleeberg Subject: Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline Date: 5 September 2023 at 08:56:15 CEST To: rietveld_l@ill.fr Reply-To: Reinh

Fwd: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-05 Thread Luca Lutterotti
ma.com <http://maud.radiographema/> > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Reinhard Kleeberg > Subject: Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline > Date: 5 September 2023 at 08:56:15 CEST > To: rietveld_l@ill.fr > Reply-To: Reinhard Kleeberg > > Dear Luca, > I co

Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-05 Thread Reinhard Kleeberg
iew is right. Regards Habib -- Message d'origine -- De "Reinhard Kleeberg" <mailto:kleeb...@mineral.tu-freiberg.de>> À "Habib Boughzala" mailto:boughz...@yahoo.com>> Cc rietveld_l@ill.fr <mailto:rietveld_l@ill.fr> Date 04/09/2023 11:07:50 Objet Re:

Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-05 Thread francois Goutenoire
f view is right. Regards Habib -- Message d'origine -- De "Reinhard Kleeberg" <mailto:kleeb...@mineral.tu-freiberg.de>> À "Habib Boughzala" mailto:boughz...@yahoo.com>> Cc rietveld_l@ill.fr <mailto:rietveld_l@ill.fr> Date 04/09/2023 11:07:50 Objet Re

Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread Reinhard Kleeberg
gt;> À "Habib Boughzala" mailto:boughz...@yahoo.com>> Cc rietveld_l@ill.fr <mailto:rietveld_l@ill.fr> Date 04/09/2023 11:07:50 Objet Re: Re[2]: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline Dear Habib, the phenomenom "satellites or edges" originates from the

RE: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread Cline, James P. Dr. (Fed)
<mailto:james.cl...@nist.gov> https://www.nist.gov/people/james-p-cline (301) 975 5793 From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr On Behalf Of Luca Lutterotti Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 1:08 PM To: rietveld_l@ill.fr Cc: Habib Boughzala Subject: Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline Dear Habib, Re

Re: Re[4]: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread Alan W Hewat
reflections broadening, asymmetry, shifting ...etc ... and can be >> related to the material behavior. >> Now, what is the physical (crystallographic!) property responsible of >> this phenomenon? let's open the floor for a large discussion. >> >> >> Habib

Re: Re[4]: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread Roberto de Avillez
. > > Regards > Habib > > > -- Message d'origine -- > De "Reinhard Kleeberg" > À "Habib Boughzala" > Cc rietveld_l@ill.fr > Date 04/09/2023 11:07:50 > Objet Re: Re[2]: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline > > Dear

Re: [EXT] [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread Luca Lutterotti
" mailto:boughz...@yahoo.com>> > Cc rietveld_l@ill.fr <mailto:rietveld_l@ill.fr> > Date 04/09/2023 11:07:50 > Objet Re: Re[2]: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline > >> Dear Habib, >> the phenomenom "satellites or edges" originates

Re[4]: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread Habib Boughzala
w is right. Regards Habib -- Message d'origine -- De "Reinhard Kleeberg" À "Habib Boughzala" Cc rietveld_l@ill.fr Date 04/09/2023 11:07:50 Objet Re: Re[2]: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline Dear Habib, the phenomenom "satellites or edges"

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread Payzant, Andrew
> https://www.ornl.gov/staff-profile/e-andrew-payzant From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr on behalf of Reinhard Kleeberg Date: Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:47 AM To: Habib Boughzala Cc: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr , rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Step-like basline Habib, obvi

Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread Reinhard Kleeberg
Habib, obviously your instrument is equipped with a not cooled solid state 1D detector (maybe Bruker Lynxeye?) and a Ni filter what is used for "selective" absorbtion of the Cu K beta radiation. What you see in the pattern is mainly a significant part of the tube emission spectrum, diffracte

Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread Habib Boughzala
Dear all, I would like to send you my witness related to this kind of observation. I can assure that our Bruker D8 is clean and optimized! In many cases of well conditioned thin film (spin coating or controlled diffusion) material this kind of phenomenon is visible around the highest reflection

Re: Re[2]: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread Reinhard Kleeberg
esponsible of this phenomenon? let's open the floor for a large discussion. Habib -- Message d'origine -- De "Alan W Hewat" À "Reinhard Kleeberg" Cc rietveld_l@ill.fr Date 04/09/2023 09:29:08 Objet Re: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline Reinhard is

Re: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread Reinhard Kleeberg
;- Kurt >> >> >> >> *From:* rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr *On Behalf >> Of *Thomas Gegan >> *Sent:* Sunday, September 3, 2023 9:16 AM >> *To:* Bish, David L ; Shay Tirosh ; >> Fernando Igoa >> *Cc:* Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr) >> *Subject:*

RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread alancoelho
t; *Sent:* Monday, September 4, 2023 2:53 AM > *To:* Thomas Gegan < <mailto:tom.ge...@basf.com> tom.ge...@basf.com>; Bish, > David L > < <mailto:b...@indiana.edu> b...@indiana.edu>; Shay Tirosh < > <mailto:stiro...@gmail.com> stiro...@gmail.com&g

Re: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread Frank Girgsdies
etveld_l-requ...@ill.fr *On Behalf Of *Kurt Leinenweber *Sent:* Monday, September 4, 2023 2:53 AM *To:* Thomas Gegan ; Bish, David L ; Shay Tirosh ; Fernando Igoa *Cc:* Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr) *Subject:* RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline Hi,  Are these things modeled in

RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread alancoelho
esult. Cheers Alan From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr On Behalf Of Kurt Leinenweber Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 2:53 AM To: Thomas Gegan ; Bish, David L ; Shay Tirosh ; Fernando Igoa Cc: Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr) Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline Hi, Are

Re: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread Alan W Hewat
lot of baggage to put in a refinement but if it makes the results > >> better… > >> > >> > >> > >>- Kurt > >> > >> > >> > >> *From:* rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr *On > Behalf > >> Of *Thomas Gegan > >&g

Re: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-04 Thread Frank Girgsdies
.@ill.fr <mailto:rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr> mailto:rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr>> on behalf of Fernando Igoa mailto:fer.igoa.1...@gmail.com>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 3, 2023 3:06 AM *To:* Shay Tirosh mailto:stiro...@gmail.com>> *Cc:* Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.f

Re: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-03 Thread Reinhard Kleeberg
ay Tirosh ; Fernando Igoa *Cc:* Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr) *Subject:* RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline I agree with a Ni absorption edge, possibly with a Kβ peak around 38° 2θ. *Tom Gegan* Chemist III Phone: +1 732 205-5111, Email: tom.ge...@basf.com Postal Address: BA

Re: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-03 Thread Matthew Rowles
t; better… > > > >- Kurt > > > > *From:* rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr *On Behalf > Of *Thomas Gegan > *Sent:* Sunday, September 3, 2023 9:16 AM > *To:* Bish, David L ; Shay Tirosh ; > Fernando Igoa > *Cc:* Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr) > *Subject:* RE: [

Re: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-03 Thread Bish, David L
Igoa ; Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr) Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline Forgot to say that the problem is absent in diffractometers with monochromator. I observed it first in a bragg-brentano diffractometer with accelrys linear position sensitive detector (panalytica

Re: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-03 Thread miguel gregorkiewitz
ut if it makes the results >>> better… >>> >>> >>> >>>- Kurt >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr *On >>> Behalf Of *Thomas Gegan >>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 3, 2023 9:16 AM >>>

RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-03 Thread Cline, James P. Dr. (Fed)
ames-p-cline (301) 975 5793 From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr On Behalf Of Kurt Leinenweber Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2023 12:53 PM To: Thomas Gegan ; Bish, David L ; Shay Tirosh ; Fernando Igoa Cc: Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr) Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline Hi, Are

Re: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-03 Thread miguel gregorkiewitz
t;> *To:* Bish, David L ; Shay Tirosh ; >> Fernando Igoa >> *Cc:* Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr) >> *Subject:* RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline >> >> >> >> I agree with a Ni absorption edge, possibly with a Kβ peak around 38° 2θ. >>

Re: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-03 Thread miguel gregorkiewitz
:* Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr) > *Subject:* RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline > > > > I agree with a Ni absorption edge, possibly with a Kβ peak around 38° 2θ. > > > > *Tom Gegan* > Chemist III > > > > Phone: +1 732 205-5111, Email: t

RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-03 Thread Kurt Leinenweber
Tirosh ; Fernando Igoa Cc: Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr) Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline I agree with a Ni absorption edge, possibly with a Kβ peak around 38° 2θ. Tom Gegan Chemist III Phone: +1 732 205-5111, Email: tom.ge...@basf.com<mailto:tom.ge...@basf.com>

RE: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-03 Thread Thomas Gegan
01.png@01D9DE60.71BF4F10] From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr On Behalf Of Bish, David L Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2023 7:08 AM To: Shay Tirosh ; Fernando Igoa Cc: Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr) Subject: [EXT] Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline Some people who received this message don't often get

RE: Step-like basline

2023-09-03 Thread Cline, James P. Dr. (Fed)
people/james-p-cline (301) 975 5793 From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr On Behalf Of Matthew Rowles Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2023 7:39 AM To: Shay Tirosh Cc: RIETVELD_L Distribution List Subject: Re: Step-like basline That's a k beta peak followed by a metal foil absorption edge followed by t

Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-03 Thread Matthew Rowles
That's a k beta peak followed by a metal foil absorption edge followed by the K alpga peak. On Sun, 3 Sep 2023, 14:50 Shay Tirosh, wrote: > Dear Rietvelders > I am attaching a zoom-in on a diffraction profile. > My question is what is the origin of the step-like profile next to a very > large re

Re: [External] Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-03 Thread Bish, David L
Regards, Dave From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr on behalf of Fernando Igoa Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2023 3:06 AM To: Shay Tirosh Cc: Rietveld List (rietveld_l@ill.fr) Subject: [External] Re: Step-like basline This message was sent from a non-IU address. Please e

Re: Step-like basline

2023-09-03 Thread Fernando Igoa
Hey Shay, Are you using a motorized slit during the measurement? These may open up abruptly to compensate for the angular dependence of the footprint and thus generate an abrupt increase in the intensity. Hope it helps :) On Sun, Sep 3, 2023, 8:50 AM Shay Tirosh wrote: > Dear Rietvelders > I