[sage-devel] Sage days in Orsay

2008-07-13 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Dear Sage and *-Combinat developers, I have secured some preliminary funding from my university in France to organize some Sage days there (Orsay, 35 minutes by local train from downtown Paris). The idea is three fold: - Have a followup to Sage Days 10 in Nancy, surfing on its wave,

[sage-devel] Help fixing pari shared library across all platforms

2008-07-13 Thread François Bissey
Hi all, Recently David Kirkby tried to compile sage on solaris express and it blew up on pari. Turns out the pari shared library is build without any PIC flag and that caused his linker to just give up. Turns out that the problem is in fact widespread across a number of archs where the linker

[sage-devel] Re: Gap closing or widening to Mathematica?

2008-07-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Jul 13, 12:54 am, mhampton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can assure you that many mathematicians use mathematica in thier research; I used to.   That was my impression too, although I am not a mathmatician. I have worked with people who have used Mathematica for serious maths research. Like

[sage-devel] Re: Help fixing pari shared library across all platforms

2008-07-13 Thread David Roe
I'm running OS X 10.4 and the warning about DT_TEXTREL doesn't appear in my install log. Good luck! David On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 3:51 AM, François Bissey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Recently David Kirkby tried to compile sage on solaris express and it blew up on pari. Turns out the

[sage-devel] Re: Help fixing pari shared library across all platforms

2008-07-13 Thread mabshoff
On Jul 13, 3:51 am, François Bissey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Hi François, Recently David Kirkby tried to compile sage on solaris express and it blew up on pari. It really depends on the toolchain on Solaris and as is a gcc configured with the Sun ld will not work for various reasons

[sage-devel] Bug in ComplexIntervalField

2008-07-13 Thread saucerful
Some weird behavior in ComplexIntervalField: CIF(0) != CIF(-1, 1); This should be false (as the value 0 is contained in both intervals), but it returns true (using whatever version is on sagenb.org). A little deeper: print CIF(0); 0 print CIF(1); [1. ..

[sage-devel] Re: Is this intended SAGE behaviour?

2008-07-13 Thread John Cremona
Hi Nils, Your message sent to my old email address in Nottingham, or I would have replied sooner ;) I'm forwarding the reply to sage-devel. No, it is not my code. The only problem is that the function calls E.lseries().L_ratio(), and L_ratio() calls misc.verbose() without importing the misc

[sage-devel] Re: book that uses sage

2008-07-13 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 6:08 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will the book be available online, or do I need to save the copy now? Save your copy now! I signed the contract with springer 8 years ago before I worried about things like making books freely available online.

[sage-devel] Re: Gap closing or widening to Mathematica?

2008-07-13 Thread saucerful
I was interested in seeing the performance differences between MATLAB and some open source offerings so I googled and came across this: http://www.sciviews.org/benchmark/index.html It seems like MATLAB did not have a huge edge in performance over R when the test was done, but that Octave was far

[sage-devel] Re: Bug in ComplexIntervalField

2008-07-13 Thread saucerful
I see. Yes I agree it should be false. Consider: CIF(RIF(0)) != CIF(RIF(-1, 1)) True RIF(0, 0) != RIF(-1, 1) False That these two comparisons should be different makes no sense, does it? Also why is it that CIF(0) seems to not have an interval, while CIF(1) does? On Jul 13, 4:35 pm, Nick

[sage-devel] Re: Gap closing or widening to Mathematica?

2008-07-13 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 13, 10:50 pm, saucerful [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was interested in seeing the performance differences between MATLAB and some open source offerings so I googled and came across this:http://www.sciviews.org/benchmark/index.html I have seen this benchmark, it's outdated and i think

[sage-devel] Re: Gap closing or widening to Mathematica?

2008-07-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Jul 13, 10:42 pm, Harald Schilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forget one point (for me the probably biggest one) - the community. Especially around matlab you have a wide range of open source (public domain, do what you want. ..) code on the web, spread over many websites. So, if you need

[sage-devel] Re: Help fixing pari shared library across all platforms

2008-07-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Jul 13, 8:00 pm, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: solaris express and it blew up on pari. It really depends on the toolchain on Solaris and as is a gcc configured with the Sun ld will not work for various reasons beyond Pari. I've just built 4.3.1 with binutils 2.18. I will see how that

[sage-devel] Re: Gap closing or widening to Mathematica?

2008-07-13 Thread David Philp
On 14/07/2008, at 8:06 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: On Jul 13, 10:42 pm, Harald Schilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forget one point (for me the probably biggest one) - the community. Especially around matlab you have a wide range of open source (public domain, do what you want. ..) code on

[sage-devel] Re: R / Aqua / CoreFoundation / Mac OS X

2008-07-13 Thread David Philp
Hi... This doesn't seem to be the hottest topic of all time. More below. On 12/07/2008, at 12:16 AM, mabshoff wrote: On Jul 10, 11:23 pm, David Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David, R does not work inside sage if LD_LIBRARY_PATH includes /sw/lib. (Which it ordinarily wouldn't, that

[sage-devel] Re: Gap closing or widening to Mathematica?

2008-07-13 Thread Robert Dodier
Harald Schilly wrote: On Jul 13, 10:50�pm, saucerful [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was interested in seeing the performance differences between MATLAB and some open source offerings so I googled and came across this: http://www.sciviews.org/benchmark/index.html I have seen this benchmark,

[sage-devel] Re: Gap closing or widening to Mathematica?

2008-07-13 Thread Michael Brickenstein
Uh, I don't know what you are complaining about the GAP to Mathematica could widen? I work heavily on exactly that goal!!! - increasing the distance to their Gröbner bases implementations ;-). I would make myself ridiculous, if I would do benchmarks against it. Just for conformity, I enter the