[sage-devel] save bug (filename dependent behaviour when saving list)

2010-02-26 Thread Felix Salfelder
Hi all, there is a problem with save(), (at least) with sage 4.3, 4.3.1, 4.3.3. I found trac#2046, but i am not sure if it is connected. somehow the .sobj-suffixing mechanism seems to be broken. i'd suggest just leaving the filenames as specified. see below for the details. regards and thank

[sage-devel] make test fails on over 100 items with sage-4.3.3

2010-02-26 Thread ErwinJunge
Hello sage-devel, I built sage-4.3.3 and then ran make test. The test failed on over 100 items, see the log here: http://pastebin.com/3fF3HMbu The machine I did this with has the following specs: OS: Linux Processors: 4x Opteron 280 Memory: 8GB When I ran the build and when I ran the test this

[sage-devel] Re: make test fails on over 100 items with sage-4.3.3

2010-02-26 Thread ErwinJunge
Hi again, I tried running the failed tests again, and now they all passed. Strange... Any ideas on why the tests failed the first time and not the second time? Greetings, Erwin Junge On Feb 26, 10:57 am, ErwinJunge erwinju...@gmail.com wrote: Hello sage-devel, I built sage-4.3.3 and then

[sage-devel] Re: experimental spkg: CHomP -- call for votes

2010-02-26 Thread mhampton
On Feb 18, 6:00 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: We don't need a vote for experimental -- that's only for optional and standard. So, I've addedchompto experimental just now. Can you clarify this? My understanding was: 1) An experimental package addition should have a trac

[sage-devel] Re: dream machine ideas

2010-02-26 Thread mhampton
One thing that would be nice is to have a faster machine than t2 running solaris. -Marshall On Jan 22, 1:52 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We are considering purchasing a new computer for the sage.math cluster, which will act partly as a Sage notebook server.The budget is

Re: [sage-devel] Re: dream machine ideas

2010-02-26 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:20 AM, mhampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: One thing that would be nice is to have a faster machine than t2 running solaris. We have disk.math.washington.edu, which is an 8-core 2.3Ghz opteron with 32GB of RAM, which runs *OpenSolaris*. Also, one could setup a Solaris

Re: [sage-devel] Re: dream machine ideas

2010-02-26 Thread David Kirkby
On 26 February 2010 15:31, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding sparc solaris, there are fast machines on skynet.  -- William Is there anything quicker than the Blade 2500, which is quite old? The fastest processor that machine could have is 1.6 GHz, which is pretty damm slow by

[sage-devel] Re: experimental spkg: CHomP -- call for votes

2010-02-26 Thread mhampton
I got those networking failures when trying to build chomp on t2, using sage-4.3.0.1. If someone built chomp on t2, what sage version were you using? Thanks, Marshall On Feb 20, 10:25 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Robert Bradshaw wrote: The code looks quite clean - only

[sage-devel] BipartiteGraph status

2010-02-26 Thread Ryan Hinton
I'm having a lovely conversation with myself in the comments for trac #8350 that I want to share. :-) There are two related problems. 1. The current BipartiteGraph class is incomplete, see trac #1941. I want to use it, so I'm trying to plug some of the holes. In particular, trac #8350

[sage-devel] Re: experimental spkg: CHomP -- call for votes

2010-02-26 Thread John H Palmieri
On Feb 26, 8:51 am, mhampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: I got those networking failures when trying to build chomp on t2, using sage-4.3.0.1.  If someone built chomp on t2, what sage version were you using? Did you use the .p0 version of the chomp spkg? See below for the link. I built it on

Re: [sage-devel] Re: experimental spkg: CHomP -- call for votes

2010-02-26 Thread David Kirkby
On 26 February 2010 17:44, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 26, 8:51 am, mhampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: Did you use the .p0 version of the chomp spkg? See below for the link.  I built it on t2, but by hand: executing the commands in the spkg-install file manually,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: make test fails on over 100 items with sage-4.3.3

2010-02-26 Thread David Roe
No idea. They're all timeout failures, but the other timings seem reasonable. If it doesn't pop up again I wouldn't worry about it too much. David On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 5:46 AM, ErwinJunge erwinju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, I tried running the failed tests again, and now they all

Re: [sage-devel] BipartiteGraph status

2010-02-26 Thread David Joyner
This is an interesting post. A few informal comments below. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Ryan Hinton iob...@email.com wrote: I'm having a lovely conversation with myself in the comments for trac #8350 that I want to share. :-) There are two related problems. 1.  The current

[sage-devel] Two numerical noise tickets for review

2010-02-26 Thread David Kirkby
If anyone has a spare minute, there are a coupler of tickets I created for numerical noise issues on Solaris. http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8375 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8374 They should not take long to review. Dave -- To post to this group, send an email to

[sage-devel] Suggestion to add date+time to test.log

2010-02-26 Thread David Kirkby
If one runs 'make test' it creates a file test.log in $HOME/.sage/tmp If would be useful if that file had the date and time in its name, or even the PID so one could test multiple versions of Sage on the same machine at the same time. Dave -- To post to this group, send an email to

[sage-devel] Re: BipartiteGraph status

2010-02-26 Thread Ryan Hinton
Thanks for the reply. Response to your suggestions below. On Feb 26, 1:21 pm, David Joyner wdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: ...snip... I considered another option.  Why not just wait until an edge is added to figure out whether a node is left or right?  Because all the vertices should be in one

[sage-devel] Re: make test fails on over 100 items with sage-4.3.3

2010-02-26 Thread mhampton
You could try stressing that install a little more by testing with the -long option. If those pass then I wouldn't worry about it too much. Perhaps some system process like a file-indexer fired up in the middle of the first run? -Marshall On Feb 26, 4:46 am, ErwinJunge erwinju...@gmail.com

Re: [sage-devel] Two numerical noise tickets for review

2010-02-26 Thread Robert Bradshaw
GIven that this pops up again and again, and works on every other platform (these are not tests with lots of rounding), is there any way to get Solaris to compile the correct constant double for e? On Feb 26, 2010, at 10:29 AM, David Kirkby wrote: If anyone has a spare minute, there are a

[sage-devel] Re: experimental spkg: CHomP -- call for votes

2010-02-26 Thread mhampton
OK, your .p0 package installed fine on t2, using sage-4.3.0.1. If its helpful to you, I have a copy of that at: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mhampton/solaris/sage-4.3.0.1-Solaris-10-SPARC-sun4u-or-sun4v.tar The package that is currently in the experimental repository must be an earlier

Re: [sage-devel] Two numerical noise tickets for review

2010-02-26 Thread David Kirkby
On 26 February 2010 19:21, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: GIven that this pops up again and again, and works on every other platform (these are not tests with lots of rounding), is there any way to get Solaris to compile the correct constant double for e? There are other

Re: [sage-devel] Suggestion to add date+time to test.log

2010-02-26 Thread Nick Alexander
On 26-Feb-10, at 10:41 AM, David Kirkby wrote: If one runs 'make test' it creates a file test.log in $HOME/.sage/tmp If would be useful if that file had the date and time in its name, or even the PID so one could test multiple versions of Sage on the same machine at the same time. +1.

[sage-devel] Sanity check on objects, parents and elements

2010-02-26 Thread Florent Hivert
Hi there, In order to sanitize the behavior of objects, parents and elements in sage, I'm about to add some tests to the framework. I think they are all reasonable but I may be asking to much. Please comment about the following: 1 - Any SageObject must have an equality methods such that

Re: [sage-devel] Sanity check on objects, parents and elements

2010-02-26 Thread Florent Hivert
Hi Sorry for replying to myself. In order to sanitize the behavior of objects, parents and elements in sage, I'm about to add some tests to the framework. I think they are all reasonable but I may be asking to much. Please comment about the following: 1 - Any SageObject must have an

Re: [sage-devel] Sanity check on objects, parents and elements

2010-02-26 Thread David Roe
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Florent Hivert florent.hiv...@univ-rouen.fr wrote: Hi there, In order to sanitize the behavior of objects, parents and elements in sage, I'm about to add some tests to the framework. I think they are all reasonable but I may be asking to much. Please

[sage-devel] Re: experimental spkg: CHomP -- call for votes

2010-02-26 Thread Volker Braun
The p0 doesn't build for me on Fedora 12 gcc 4.4.3. Adding #include stdio.h fixes it. You can get the (trivially) patched src/include/ chomp/multiwork/mwdata.h from http://www.stp.dias.ie/~vbraun/mwdata.h With this change, it builds fine. Volker - build log --

Re: [sage-devel] Sanity check on objects, parents and elements

2010-02-26 Thread John Cremona
Quick question: many types have methods one_element() and zero_element() which are used a lot. For example, ZZ.one() and ZZ.zero() are aliases for ZZ.one_element() and ZZ.zero_element(). Is your intention to deprecate these longer names? John On 26 February 2010 21:16, David Roe

Re: [sage-devel] Sanity check on objects, parents and elements

2010-02-26 Thread Nick Alexander
On 26-Feb-10, at 12:59 PM, Florent Hivert wrote: Hi there, In order to sanitize the behavior of objects, parents and elements in sage, I'm about to add some tests to the framework. I think they are all reasonable but I may be asking to much. I think your suggestions are

Re: [sage-devel] Sanity check on objects, parents and elements

2010-02-26 Thread Florent Hivert
Hi David, In order to sanitize the behavior of objects, parents and elements in sage, I'm about to add some tests to the framework. I think they are all reasonable but I may be asking to much. Please comment about the following: 1 - Any SageObject must have an equality methods

Re: [sage-devel] Sanity check on objects, parents and elements

2010-02-26 Thread Florent Hivert
Quick question: many types have methods one_element() and zero_element() which are used a lot. For example, ZZ.one() and ZZ.zero() are aliases for ZZ.one_element() and ZZ.zero_element(). Is your intention to deprecate these longer names? I had the impression that this has been already

Re: [sage-devel] Re: dream machine ideas

2010-02-26 Thread Serge A. Salamanka
One should definitely look into possibility of buying a BladCenter. The support for InfiniBand and Server RAID, many storage options and highly configurable interfaces make this system an outstanding hardware to work on. There is always an opportunity for hardware diversity also. That makes

[sage-devel] Re: experimental spkg: CHomP -- call for votes

2010-02-26 Thread John H Palmieri
On Feb 26, 1:20 pm, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: The p0 doesn't build for me on Fedora 12 gcc 4.4.3. Adding #include stdio.h fixes it. You can get the (trivially) patched src/include/ chomp/multiwork/mwdata.h from http://www.stp.dias.ie/~vbraun/mwdata.h With this change, it

[sage-devel] Re: experimental spkg: CHomP -- call for votes

2010-02-26 Thread John H Palmieri
On Feb 26, 10:13 am, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I'd copyhttp://boxen.math.washington.edu/sage/solaris/sage-4.3.0.1-Solaris-10... to your home directory, and use 'p7zip -d filename' to decompress the binary. I believe you can then add your own package and test it. Thanks,

Re: [sage-devel] Suggestion to add date+time to test.log

2010-02-26 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Nick Alexander wrote: On 26-Feb-10, at 10:41 AM, David Kirkby wrote: If one runs 'make test' it creates a file test.log in $HOME/.sage/tmp If would be useful if that file had the date and time in its name, or even the PID so one could test multiple versions of Sage on the same machine at the

Re: [sage-devel] Suggestion to add date+time to test.log

2010-02-26 Thread David Roe
+1 from me. David On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:41 PM, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.netwrote: If one runs 'make test' it creates a file test.log in $HOME/.sage/tmp If would be useful if that file had the date and time in its name, or even the PID so one could test multiple versions of Sage

Re: [sage-devel] Suggestion to add date+time to test.log

2010-02-26 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
David Roe wrote: +1 from me. David Thanks. How many +1's do we need before it gets done? I can implement this easily and quickly, so don't mind doing it myself. I currently have two versions of Sage I'd like to test, but can't do them in parallel, despite the multiple processors I have.

Re: [sage-devel] Sanity check on objects, parents and elements

2010-02-26 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Feb 26, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Florent Hivert wrote: Hi there, In order to sanitize the behavior of objects, parents and elements in sage, I'm about to add some tests to the framework. I think they are all reasonable but I may be asking to much. Please comment about the following: 1

Re: [sage-devel] Two numerical noise tickets for review

2010-02-26 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Robert Bradshaw wrote: GIven that this pops up again and again, and works on every other platform (these are not tests with lots of rounding), is there any way to get Solaris to compile the correct constant double for e? I rushed my previous email about this, since I had to leave to get a

Re: [sage-devel] BipartiteGraph status

2010-02-26 Thread Robert Miller
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Ryan Hinton iob...@email.com wrote: ... OK, assume we solve (1) by requiring an indication of which partition a vertex belongs in and raising an exception otherwise.  What about Graph algorithms that change the graph temporarily or just don't do the right thing

Re: [sage-devel] experimental spkg: CHomP -- call for votes

2010-02-26 Thread Robert Miller
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 4:00 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: We don't need a vote for experimental -- that's only for optional and standard. So, I've added chomp to experimental just now. Why don't we have a vote to make it optional? It seems like pretty solid code, much better than

[sage-devel] Procedure for experimental/optional/standard packages

2010-02-26 Thread mhampton
On Feb 18, 6:00 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: We don't need a vote for experimental -- that's only for optional and standard. So, I've addedchompto experimental just now. Can you clarify this? My understanding was: 1) An experimental package addition should have a trac ticket,