Re: [sage-devel] Re: Integer from mpz_t

2015-08-19 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 12:36:07 PM UTC+2, vdelecroix wrote: On 19/08/15 12:31, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 12:21:36 PM UTC+2, vdelecroix wrote: Note that all the solutions given will *copy* the mpz_t to the Integer. Is that what you

[sage-devel] Re: Integer from mpz_t

2015-08-19 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 11:19:30 AM UTC+2, Ralf Stephan wrote: Given an mpz_t, how to most effectively create an Integer? The best I can come up with is through the string representation. Or, of course, by patching integer.pyx. Am I missing something? From Cython you can use the

Re: [sage-devel] [sage-cloud] slowness with sums of ideals in ZZ[a, b]

2015-07-31 Thread Pierre
OK cool ! Thanks again ! On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 10:40:46 PM UTC+2, Justin C. Walker wrote: On Jul 31, 2015, at 08:36 , Pierre wrote: Hi, I have asked a version of this question here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-support/2KJQhOf-N7Y However I now have

[sage-devel] [sage-cloud] slowness with sums of ideals in ZZ[a, b]

2015-07-31 Thread Pierre
about computations over ZZ, using singular, not being trustworthy. Sage 6.2 doesn't have that. Could it have an effect on the speed? Anyway, just wanted to point this out. It would be lovely if this could be fixed as some point. I'm really enjoying the cloud ! Thanks, Pierre -- You received

Re: [sage-devel] [sage-cloud] slowness with sums of ideals in ZZ[a, b]

2015-07-31 Thread Pierre
takes about 92ms on my laptop (Sage 6.8.rc1, core i7-4600 @ 2.10 GHz). So if it's a Sage 6.7-thing, it's fixed again :-) Johan William Stein writes: On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Pierre pierre@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hi, I have asked a version of this question

Re: [sage-devel] The future of polybori

2015-06-13 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Your plan does look good to me Martin. Just note it wont be trivial. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Sage Days 65 mini report

2015-06-13 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
sage-devel or sage-support (or sage-install or sage-apple or sage-osx :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Sage Days 65 mini report

2015-06-13 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
OS X in VM's? Is that legal? Maybe only on OS X hardware? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[sage-devel] Re: sage-6.7 build failed on Cygwin64 for python-2.7.8 No module named crypt

2015-06-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Le lundi 8 juin 2015 13:54:01 UTC+2, Stefan Auracher a écrit : In the past I had the same experience. I did it but in the last years, but it was really difficult. But recently I tried an install of cygwin with the setup-x86_64.exe --no-admin switch and it worked very well wihout any

[sage-devel] Re: sage-6.7 build failed on Cygwin64 for python-2.7.8 No module named crypt

2015-06-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Le lundi 8 juin 2015 14:22:20 UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori a écrit : Le lundi 8 juin 2015 13:54:01 UTC+2, Stefan Auracher a écrit : In the past I had the same experience. I did it but in the last years, but it was really difficult. But recently I tried an install of cygwin with the setup

[sage-devel] Re: sage-6.7 build failed on Cygwin64 for python-2.7.8 No module named crypt

2015-06-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Le lundi 8 juin 2015 18:02:46 UTC+2, Stefan Auracher a écrit : How to do this ? I found in ~/sage-6.7/src/module_list.py Extension('sage.rings.polynomial.pbori', sources = ['sage/rings/polynomial/pbori.pyx'], libraries=['polybori-' + polybori_major_version,

[sage-devel] Re: sage-6.7 build failed on Cygwin64 for python-2.7.8 No module named crypt

2015-06-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 2:49:40 PM UTC+2, Stefan Auracher wrote: the logfile ~/sage-6.7/logs/pkgs/python-2.7.8.log at the very end after make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/XX/sage-6.7/local/var/tmp/sage/build/python-2.7.8/src' failed with: Installing valgrind suppression

[sage-devel] Re: Trac git interface half broken?

2015-05-22 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
It seems the trac/git failure was not caused by the lack of space on /tmp as it is still dysfunctional. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[sage-devel] Trac git interface half broken?

2015-05-21 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Dear all, In case the one in charge was not aware, it seems the trac git interface is half broken. For instance, http://git.sagemath.org/sage.git/diff/?id=2341c22ee7ce66cd1cf80949b1a7c9a4f6e5431f shows no diff. Best, JP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[sage-devel] Re: Trac error

2015-05-21 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Thanks. On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 9:29:18 PM UTC+2, Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: Le jeudi 21 mai 2015 19:22:53 UTC+2, Volker Braun a écrit : fixed Thanks! Eric. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this

[sage-devel] Is anyone trying to build Sage on old x86 without MMX?

2015-05-20 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
In http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18027, Jeroen would like to drop (partly) drop suppor for such CPUs when signals are received. I guess what would happen is that an additional SIGILL or something like that will happen because of the unsupported MMX-only FPU reset asm instruciton, but I did

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is there an online index of the standard packages shipped in Sage?

2015-05-18 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Great news! I guess we can finally have a make donwload target which only downloads standard packages now. And maybe a simple way to cleanup the upstream directory, see #16327. On Sunday, May 17, 2015 at 8:30:04 AM UTC+2, Nathann Cohen wrote: We were not talking about a catalog, but an

[sage-devel] Bug with vars()?

2015-05-06 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Dear all, My Sage 6.6 install quits after printing a depreciation warning message when I issue: sage: vars() Same is true for at least globals(). Any clue on what's going on? Best, JP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bug with vars()?

2015-05-06 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
I unpacked the sage 6.6 tarball and ran make. I'll have some trouble posting the exact output here as the machine is not connected to the network, but basically: * I'm on an amd64 Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS. * I launch: sage * I type at Sage's prompt: vars() * I get: /blablabla/pretty_print.py:147:

[sage-devel] Re: pynac may require C++11 in Sage

2015-04-28 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Latest NTL releases also require C++11. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

Re: [sage-devel] Non-Sage C code in the Sage library

2015-04-24 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 10:42:12 AM UTC+2, John Cremona wrote: On 24 April 2015 at 09:37, John Cremona john.c...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Who is the author of hyperellfrob? OK, I found it (it is actually called hypellfrob): David Harvey. David, if you are listening -- any

[sage-devel] Cythonization of Sage extensions, wildcards in module_list.py and Cython directives

2015-04-21 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Dear all, It seems we're shifting from the original way we were building Cython extensions where each extension was listed in module_list.py to use wildcards in module_list.py. See #7987 and #15410 for wide coverage tickets, and e.g. #17767 for more focused ones. This is problematic when some

[sage-devel] Re: CC vs MPC

2015-04-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 8:43:58 PM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 6:56:56 PM UTC+2, vdelecroix wrote: Hello, We currently ship two implementations of floating point complex numbers: - ComplexField: home made implementation based on two mpfr

[sage-devel] Re: CC vs MPC

2015-04-07 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 6:56:56 PM UTC+2, vdelecroix wrote: Hello, We currently ship two implementations of floating point complex numbers: - ComplexField: home made implementation based on two mpfr for the real and imaginary parts - MPComplexField: implementation based on the

Re: [sage-devel] For french readers

2015-04-01 Thread Pierre
Anyways, somewhat limited is an understatement. To be fair, the french financement est pour le moins limité means something like funding is limited, to say the least. Don't trust google ! :-) pierre -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel

[sage-devel] For french readers

2015-03-31 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Let's replace Python by Julia :p http://lavieestmaloptimisee.blogspot.fr/2015/03/les-informaticiens-meprisent.html?view=classic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[sage-devel] Re: For french readers

2015-03-31 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
/articles/fog69.html On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 12:11:34 PM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: Let's replace Python by Julia :p http://lavieestmaloptimisee.blogspot.fr/2015/03/les-informaticiens-meprisent.html?view=classic -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [sage-devel] Proposal: make _cmp_c_impl() override __cmp__()

2015-03-04 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
The few times I played with comparison functions, I found what we have quite confusing, especially the discrpancy between Python and Cython classes, so any simplification would be welcomed. And if it also eases the transition towards Python 3 that would be great. -- You received this message

Re: [sage-devel] [Debian] Strange crash in ECL

2015-02-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Not really related but it seems ECL saw an update! On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 10:43:28 PM UTC+1, François wrote: On 02/26/15 10:30, Julien Puydt wrote: Hi, Le 25/02/2015 10:56, Julien Puydt a écrit : it is a strange problem I have : using either debian's ecl or upstream's

[sage-devel] Re: [ARM] sage 6.5

2015-02-23 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 3:34:08 PM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On 2015-02-23, Julien Puydt julien...@laposte.net javascript: wrote: Le 23/02/2015 15:05, Julien Puydt a écrit : Le 23/02/2015 14:27, Julien Puydt a écrit : That will take some time though : this box isn't fast.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [ARM] sage 6.5

2015-02-23 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Saturday, February 21, 2015 at 5:25:07 PM UTC+1, Volker Braun wrote: The atlas build script just aborts with SAGE_ATLAS_ARCH=base, nothing else to see here. Pointing to a specific location for the atlas library isn't going to be much use in a binary that we distribute. On

Re: [sage-devel] sage-6.5.1?

2015-02-20 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 4:29:38 PM UTC+1, John Cremona wrote: On 20 February 2015 at 15:10, Vincent Delecroix 20100.d...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hello, We do have two very serious critical bug with the new version 6.5, namely * #17806 (MPIR compilation) *

[sage-devel] Dashes in software name or version number

2015-01-15 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Dear all, Is this still a problem? Best, JP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[sage-devel] GMP tarball not mirrored

2015-01-13 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
GMP was added as an optional package in http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/12661. Who should I CC? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[sage-devel] Re: GMP tarball not mirrored

2015-01-13 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Thanks! I also added Volker just in case. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 4:15:09 PM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On 2015-01-13, Jean-Pierre Flori jpf...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: GMP was added as an optional package in http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/12661. Who should I CC

[sage-devel] Re: GMP tarball not mirrored

2015-01-13 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Thanks! On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 4:30:48 PM UTC+1, Volker Braun wrote: Done! On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Jean-Pierre Flori jpf...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thanks! I also added Volker just in case. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 4:15:09 PM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik

[sage-devel] Re: Bug Days?

2015-01-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 4:34:22 PM UTC+1, William wrote: Hi, Would anybody be interested in helping me to organize a bug days workshop sometime in the next few months? I have plenty of funding for this for US people and can scrounge up some funds for some non-US people. Hi,

[sage-devel] Re: Build error for sage 6.4 beta 5 under cygwin64

2015-01-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 12:30:16 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 9:49:52 AM UTC+1, Sebastien Gouezel wrote: The webpage http://trac.sagemath.org/wiki/Cygwin64Port indicates that sage can now be built under cygwin64 almost out of the box. So, I tried

[sage-devel] Re: Build error for sage 6.4 beta 5 under cygwin64

2015-01-09 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 9:49:52 AM UTC+1, Sebastien Gouezel wrote: The webpage http://trac.sagemath.org/wiki/Cygwin64Port indicates that sage can now be built under cygwin64 almost out of the box. So, I tried, but I failed... Here are the problems I encountered, maybe someone with

[sage-devel] Re: How's tkinter on Macs?

2015-01-07 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 5:02:31 AM UTC+1, Nathan Dunfield wrote: I agree: Tkinter works out-of-the box on OS X with any recent source or binary release of Sage. Can you review that ticket, then? I have no experience with Tkinter myself. Sure, but what does that mean given

[sage-devel] Re: How's tkinter on Macs?

2015-01-07 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Sorry, I meant the milestone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Cygwin(64) port status

2015-01-06 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:51:29 PM UTC+1, John Cremona wrote: By the way, there is discussion of building Pari under Cygwin 64 on the pari-dev list; bugs are being discovered and fixed as I type. Great news! My last findings were that PARI behaved very badly on Cygwin64. For example

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Cygwin(64) port status

2015-01-06 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 4:02:45 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:51:29 PM UTC+1, John Cremona wrote: By the way, there is discussion of building Pari under Cygwin 64 on the pari-dev list; bugs are being discovered and fixed as I type. Great news

Re: [sage-devel] GF(3) but GF(9,'x')

2014-12-30 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
I would also be nice to be able to pass GF(3,3). If I ever find some time to implement it, I'll do it, but anyone can feel free to do it before I do. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[sage-devel] Re: GF(3) but GF(9,'x')

2014-12-30 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Anyhow, the above looks ugly. How about sage: F.z5 = GF(3, 5) and the following should also lead to the same thing: sage: F.z5 = GF(3^5) We already have that, or am I missing something? Dima Peter Op dinsdag 30 december 2014 12:35:30 UTC+1 schreef Dima Pasechnik:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GF(3) but GF(9,'x')

2014-12-30 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:40:29 PM UTC+1, Bruno Grenet wrote: Le 30/12/2014 13:31, Jean-Pierre Flori a écrit : Anyhow, the above looks ugly. How about sage: F.z5 = GF(3, 5) and the following should also lead to the same thing: sage: F.z5 = GF(3^5) We already have

[sage-devel] Re: Cygwin(64) port status

2014-12-29 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Thanks to Travis, only the ATLAS patch needs review! http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17365 http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Ftrac.sagemath.org%2Fticket%2F17365sa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNHvTmGm10lUGkMxeJuWeXDU1cA2Hg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[sage-devel] Re: where is the code for __eq__ (of ring elements)

2014-12-28 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Nathann, if you're still tens of kilometers away from the nearest pub, you might want to turn all the info here into proper documentation? On Sunday, December 28, 2014 1:45:26 AM UTC+1, Nils Bruin wrote: On Saturday, December 27, 2014 3:13:37 PM UTC-8, Simon King wrote: That's exactly what I

[sage-devel] Re: The Sage dev scripts

2014-12-27 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Friday, December 26, 2014 9:07:06 PM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On 2014-12-26, Volker Braun vbrau...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: --=_Part_5531_1685050387.1419616059330 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_Part_5532_1775001320.1419616059330

[sage-devel] Re: Cygwin(64) port status

2014-12-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: On Thursday, November 27, 2014 6:39:13 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: And I forgot http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17365 http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Ftrac.sagemath.org%2Fticket%2F17365sa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNHvTmGm10lUGkMxeJuWeXDU1cA2Hg and http

Re: [sage-devel] Plenty of review material out there...

2014-12-19 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Friday, December 19, 2014 4:03:44 PM UTC+1, Bruno Grenet wrote: I've changed recently the status of a ticket to needs review since I think it is not relevant anymore, and I wanted it to be closed. I now guess it is not the right approach... What should I do in such a case? Put it to

[sage-devel] Re: Problem building on openSUSE

2014-12-17 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
I guess this is: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/sage-devel/complex.h/sage-devel/iA3K1T8lPlQ/hyACRbExOkMJ On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 2:33:46 PM UTC+1, Simon King wrote: Hi! I just have now installed openSUSE 13.2 64bit on my laptop (it has previously been 12.3), and now

[sage-devel] Re: Problem building on openSUSE

2014-12-17 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 3:10:36 PM UTC+1, Simon King wrote: Hi Jean-Pierre, On 2014-12-17, Jean-Pierre Flori jpf...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I guess this is: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/sage-devel/complex.h/sage-devel/iA3K1T8lPlQ/hyACRbExOkMJ Yes

[sage-devel] Re: Cygwin(64) port status

2014-12-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Thursday, November 27, 2014 6:39:13 PM UTC+1, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: And I forgot http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17365 and http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/15649 which need a little love (and as it only affects Cygwin should be easy to review, at least if you trust me

[sage-devel] rest syntax

2014-12-09 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Do we have anything about that in our dev guide? Or at least a pointer to the rest/sphinx doc? e.g. http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/ref/rst/restructuredtext.html Every time I have to add doc I wonder whether I should use one or two backticks and so on and cannot find anything in our docs...

Re: [sage-devel] Re: User Survey

2014-12-09 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 6:25:56 PM UTC+1, William wrote: On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, mmarco mma...@unizar.es javascript: wrote: Yes we do, but not as completely as x86. For instance the last version that has an arm binary in the download page is 5.13. The Wolfram

Re: [sage-devel] Re: User Survey

2014-12-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Monday, December 8, 2014 9:53:51 PM UTC+1, mmarco wrote: Maybe support for arm architecture would be relevant in that respect. We do support ARM, don't we? At least I'm able to compile Sage from scratch on a Raspberry Pi and on armv7+ as well. -- You received this message because you

[sage-devel] Re: Looking for OSX buildbot

2014-12-04 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Thursday, December 4, 2014 3:38:18 PM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On 2014-12-01, Volker Braun vbrau...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: --=_Part_3157_1040776803.1417466369538 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_Part_3158_1081423206.1417466369539

[sage-devel] Sage.app binary problems

2014-11-28 Thread Stephane St-Pierre
I, just downloaded the Sage.app (OSX 10.9) from 2 different server and the resulting downloads didn't give the Sage.app, but simply the src Maybe theres a problems? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[sage-devel] Re: Cygwin(64) port status

2014-11-27 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:46:56 PM UTC+1, mmarco wrote: The result of the compilation is relocatable? I mean, would it be eventually possible to have something that windows users just unzip and runs? Or would they always need to compile it? I would say so, i dont really know if any

[sage-devel] Re: Cygwin(64) port status

2014-11-27 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
And I forgot http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17365 and http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/15649 which need a little love (and as it only affects Cygwin should be easy to review, at least if you trust me)!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel

Re: [sage-devel] Compilation Error sage 6.4.1 : installing package ecl-13.5.1.p0

2014-11-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 9:17:27 PM UTC+1, François wrote: Hi, A bit of a shot in the dark but could you try it from a folder with only ascii characters? Telechargements instead of Téléchargement. It is possible that the ecl bootstrap doesn't like those characters very much.

[sage-devel] Cygwin(64) port status

2014-11-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Hi all, With http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/15649 and http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17365 which need reviews and touch Cygwin-only code we'll (almost) have support to build Sage trivially (type make) on Cygwin (again) and Cygwin64 (for the first time). Only the MPIR update at

Re: [sage-devel] Cygwin(64) port status

2014-11-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Note that everything gets built, but at this point I don't promise it is really functional. Cygwin32 should be almost fully functional. Cygwin64 is very far from it (e.g. PARI builds but seems completely broken: it says 131 is not prime). Anyway getting back to a point where just typing make

[sage-devel] Do we have a make target to clean upstream directory?

2014-11-24 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
As time goes it gets bigger and bigger... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

[sage-devel] NTL and Singular updates

2014-11-17 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Dear all, Anyone feeling like reviewing the updates to NTL 6.2.1 (http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16882) and Singular 3-1-7 (http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17184) ? It would be nice to have them in before working on the much more involved Singular 4-0-x and (surely not so hard) NTL 7.0.1

[sage-devel] Re: Document patches in the patch file, not in SPKG.txt

2014-11-17 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Monday, November 17, 2014 1:45:09 PM UTC+1, Volker Braun wrote: I would like to propose another change to SPKG.txt, and that is to NOT document patches in there but in the patch file. As you might know, the patch can have arbitrary text before the first diff hunk, anything that is not

Re: [sage-devel] Fwd: NTL v7 -- thread safety

2014-11-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:12:33 PM UTC+1, François wrote: I guess the compiler requirement will kill all the problems we saw in #16882 which is a good thing TM. Sure, but will make a lot of people have to compile GCC 4.9.2 :) Could you review #16882 before we begin working on the

[sage-devel] Future NTL versions and exception handling

2014-11-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Dear all, As you must have noticed, Victor Shoup just released a new thread safe version of NTL. He also took the opportunity to ask me (and surely a bunch of other people) what would be expected from exception handling in NTL Currently NTL just prints something and then aborts. Note that we

[sage-devel] Re: Future NTL versions and exception handling

2014-11-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
. What _is_ expensive is when an exception occurs, but in C++ you are not supposed to use exceptions for program flow like in Python. On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:15:44 PM UTC, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: Dear all, As you must have noticed, Victor Shoup just released a new thread safe

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Future NTL versions and exception handling

2014-11-11 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
of (or the exception thrown within) a thread is pretty handy. Cheers, Francesco. On 12 November 2014 00:05, Jean-Pierre Flori jpf...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 11:55:49 PM UTC+1, Volker Braun wrote: What kind of error states are we talking about? divide

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Should we ship vanilla upstream tarballs or stripped-down ones?

2014-11-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 2:17:29 PM UTC+1, Volker Braun wrote: There is already a make download. If you want you can add a make download-more (or so) to also download popular optional packages... Doesn't make download already download everything? Or was it fixed/changed? -- You

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Should we ship vanilla upstream tarballs or stripped-down ones?

2014-11-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 2:39:15 PM UTC+1, Thierry (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 05:22:17AM -0800, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote: On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 2:17:29 PM UTC+1, Volker Braun wrote: There is already a make download. If you want you can

[sage-devel] Should we ship vanilla upstream tarballs or stripped-down ones?

2014-10-31 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Dear all, Should we go on stripping down upstream tarballs from stuff we don't use when there is some substantial gain? See http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17169 (GCC) and http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/15015 (MPIR). We can debate forever on when the gain becomes substantial in comparison

Re: [sage-devel] SPKG Maintainers??

2014-10-29 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
I agree let's get rid of this. I've updated a bunch of packages but did not feel like filling this field with my name as I couldn't promise I'll keep on maintaining the packages. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from

[sage-devel] Need help from someone knowing Singular

2014-10-24 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
We're stuck at http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17184. I've also posted on Singular forum: http://www.singular.uni-kl.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10t=2466sid=01f281c0cfb23e8e420dbe49dc1a85cb Help from someone knowing Singular internals would be welcome. Best, JP -- You received this message

Re: [sage-devel] Why do we keep (very old) itanium binaries?

2014-10-23 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
There used to be Itanium machines on the GCC Compile Farm, and I have access there, in particular for testing/developing Sage stuff. I don't now the current situation though. Actually, I am supposed to write a laius about the need for Sage portability on exotic archs/porting somehow on Windows

[sage-devel] Re: OSX Yosemite

2014-10-17 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Relevant? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/-sm2ejzcjY8/x27G0nMRdY4J On Friday, October 17, 2014 6:58:16 PM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote: I upgraded my OSX buildbot, now it doesn't compile Sage any more ;-) Checking multilib configuration for libgcc... Configuring stage 1 in

Re: [sage-coding-theory] Re: [sage-devel] Re: 2-year project with full-time software developer for improving coding theory in Sage

2014-10-16 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
I think it would also be a good idea to get in contact with the matroids folk who got a lot of code integrated into Sage some time ago. Or even better with Eric Gourgoulhon whos currently writing a lot of code for his project and getting it integrated into Sage piece by piece. On top of that

Re: [sage-devel] Proposal: remove SAGE_UPGRADING

2014-09-30 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
I also agree with the removal, with the issue of ATLAS. Maybe we should switch to openblas (IIRC Clément Pernet said it is more state of the art nowadays) :) On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:15:59 AM UTC+2, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: See http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/17072 -- You received

Re: [sage-devel] Proposal: remove SAGE_UPGRADING

2014-09-30 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:51:05 AM UTC+2, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2014-09-30 08:24, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: I certainly agree with this, but it should be said that make will take a longer time when changing packages. For example, you will see ATLAS being rebuilt very frequently

[sage-devel] Re: Sage package bash?

2014-09-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
2. Dima -- do we specifically use bash features in the build scripts of Sage? Sage scripts have !/usr/bin/env bash all over the place. I don't know about 'bashisms' though - one should test on a Debian system, where bash is not essential, as they have a push to move to dash years

[sage-devel] Posting comments to a closed ticket empties the commit field

2014-09-17 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
It seems to me it is the case. Can this be fixed? It's not really important as the commit is still linked in the branch field and that's the only place a human can clic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [sage-devel] Re: compiling sage 6.3 on a raspberry pi

2014-09-15 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
And maybe I spoke too fast. The build system of Sage the distribution is not smart enough for sure. But I seem to remember you may be able to cross compile using lmonade. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this

[sage-devel] Re: compiling sage 6.3 on a raspberry pi

2014-09-15 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Monday, September 15, 2014 12:30:06 PM UTC+2, mmarco wrote: I have purchased one of these boards: https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A20/A20-OLinuXino-LIME/open-source-hardware And plan to plug in it a ssd drive to allow fast swap space. I would like to use it to compile sage

Re: [sage-devel] Re: compiling sage 6.3 on a raspberry pi

2014-09-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Friday, September 12, 2014 11:15:19 AM UTC+2, bluescarni wrote: What you want is called cross-compilation, and in general is a non-trivial thing to do. You have to set up a toolchain on your x86 boxes able to compile for ARM, use it to compile SAGE and finally move the binary over to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: #16577: enable 0-based row/column permutation of matrices

2014-09-11 Thread Pierre
Hi all, Here are a few suggestions: (1) permutations have a to_matrix() method; permuting the rows of M according to the permutation sigma can be done by M= M * sigma.to_matrix() and for the rows: M= sigma.to_matrix().transpose() * M Of course there is a debate about the behaviour of

Re: [sage-devel] Re: #16577: enable 0-based row/column permutation of matrices

2014-09-11 Thread Pierre
sorry some keyboard shortcut has sent the post. I was saying: def C(*args): #C for cycle return Permutation([ args ]) and then for (1, 2, 3)(4, 5) I type C(1, 2, 3) * C(4, 5). I got very used to it. cheers Pierre On Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:12:21 PM UTC+2, Pierre wrote: Hi all

[sage-devel] Re: Memory leak in evaluating polynomials over finite fields

2014-09-10 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
this does not remind me of anything except http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/3603 which is surely unrelated (different backend) and http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/13447 but not so related either. On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:03:15 AM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote: I was dabbling in

[sage-devel] Re: Memory leak in evaluating polynomials over finite fields

2014-09-10 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Does it also leak with older version of Sage? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[sage-devel] Re: compiling sage 6.3 on a raspberry pi

2014-09-10 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Indeed it should basically work out of the box if you make some swap space available (let's say 1 gbyte). At least it used to do, possibly with a few trivial fixes (and I surely opened tickets on trac for them, also see

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Compiling sage on Fedora

2014-09-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Friday, September 5, 2014 11:42:21 AM UTC+2, Jori Mantysalo wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2014, Volker Braun wrote: So it seems that we don't link libf77blas against libgfortran. Whats the output of sage -sh -c ldd local/lib/libf77blas.so linux-vdso.so.1 =

[sage-devel] Re: Sage's debug version

2014-09-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Friday, September 5, 2014 3:47:53 PM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote: I don't know of a ticket, feel free to fix it. All relevant files are in build/pkgs/singular. It seems that the debug patches conflict with the cygwin patch. Also, the debug patches should probably be applied strictly

[sage-devel] Re: Is the valgrind spkg broken? Debugging help needed...

2014-09-03 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 4:57:19 PM UTC+2, Simon King wrote: Dear all, I just installed the valgrind spkg, did make, and then started ./sage --valgrind, in order to run a stress test for what I call biseq (bounded integer sequences) at #15820. Eventually, I want to use biseqs

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Make ARM a supported platform

2014-09-02 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 3:13:09 PM UTC+2, mmarco wrote: You mean like using SAGE_ATLAS_LIB to avoid shipping a too optimized version of that lib? My comment was more in the line of making sure that the resulting compiled code does not use instructions that are not available at

[sage-devel] Re: Make ARM a supported platform

2014-09-01 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Cool. IIRC different kind of ARM boards have already been used by a bunch of users with success. At least I had quite no problems building Sage on a Raspberry Pi and on a Cortex A9 based board. On Monday, September 1, 2014 2:49:06 PM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote: I'm proposing to make ARM a

Re: [sage-devel] Make ARM a supported platform

2014-09-01 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Hi Snark, Did you CC Harald? I thought he was in charge of this kind of stuff... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[sage-devel] Re: speed regression testing

2014-08-29 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
I don't know for sure, but I think linbox does not link to LAPACK (anymore?). Maybe that make a small difference already. I opened a ticket about that some monthes ago. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [sage-devel] proposal: remove python spkg and use pip instead

2014-08-28 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:11:47 PM UTC+2, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2014-08-27 21:01, Julien Puydt wrote: but on a general basis people are quite welcoming of sensible contributions. Depends on the project. Whenever I think a patch is good for upstream, I do submit it upstream.

[sage-devel] Re: upgrade to singular 4.0 in sage?

2014-08-28 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
I think one of lmonade's GSoC project was about that. But I don't think it was picked up -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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