[sage-devel] Re: Sage build time

2012-01-20 Thread RegB
Do you have a (good) idea of where diminishing returns cuts in ? I imagine the number of cores (threads) doesn't help much above a fairly small number due to sequential dependencies ? More memory is always "nice to have" but does it really help HERE ? Did you set the atlas_architecture environment

[sage-devel] Re: Trac Accounts...

2012-01-10 Thread RegB
As a very much below average user I will try that right now. Windows 7, new Laptop, previous laptop was Vista based, so this could take a bit of time. Now 9:16 Going into Windows control panel first; Troubleshooting>Network & Internet>Incoming connections gets to some sort of automated troubl

[sage-devel] Re: Ubuntu 11.10 testers needed

2012-01-09 Thread RegB
PS to earlier post; My build was with the p2 version of the readline package. FWIW, but I still have the same failure with; "make ptestlong" I tried again after a; "make clean", but got the same failure. Will play around with it later, but I think readline.p2 is OK on my Ubuntu 11.10 and on my Kub

[sage-devel] Re: Ubuntu 11.10 testers needed

2012-01-08 Thread RegB
Bahh, disappointed (-: Using 'make ptestlong' I just got; = sage -t --long -force_lib devel/sage/sage/modular/modform/ cuspidal_submodule.py [7.3 s] sage -t --long -force_lib devel/sage/sage/modular/modform/element.

[sage-devel] Re: Ubuntu 11.10 testers needed

2012-01-08 Thread RegB
It ran straight through here. DETAILS: Toshiba Satellite P775 laptop, i7, 8 Gig Ram, Windows 7 Home Premium, Virtual Box allowed 4 Gig Ram and 95% of available processor(s), no attempt made to "throttle" the host machine, or the guest. Almost 3 hours, but from the size of the Atlas log file 15.7 M

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.7.2 make failure on Thinkpad T-40 with Oneiric Ubuntu - maxima fails to build

2011-12-04 Thread RegB
WRT Memory - - It SEEMS that a Gig of RAM plus another Gig of Swap is needed for Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit virtual machine. I cannot say for sure that less will cause failures, only that this config runs close when building docs. Best not to be running much else at the same time that is memory intense

[sage-devel] Re: Singular and Symmetric don't build on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)

2011-12-01 Thread RegB
It has worked for me too, on both VirtualBox in a 64 bit Vista host and on the same physical machine (AMD laptop) in its own partition. I am currently trying to get a cantor front end working with matplotlib, but sage itself and the notebook work just fine. I should add that as a total newbie I fo

[sage-devel] Re: Debian Version?

2011-11-12 Thread RegB
I have built Sage successfully on Debian 6.0.0 through 6.0.3 on AMD, both in virtual machines (VirtualBox under Windows Vista with 1 Gig memory) and physical. The most recent change to the Atlas package that allows me to specify architecture=fast has speeded things up considerably, i.e. it takes a

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade aborts - uncommitted changes

2011-08-23 Thread RegB
Thanks, That appeared to work for me on all the repositories except local/bin in that one I got the dreaded message; "Not trusting file /usr/local/sage-4.7/local/bin/.hg/hgrc from untrusted user xyz, group root" I tried all the usual chown, chmod things on everything from sage_root and down. On A

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-4.7 VirtualBox image

2011-06-08 Thread RegB
I tried the .ova file with VirtualBox and it worked perfectly. I tried it with VMware Player and it refused to load. It is probably a likes/dis-likes personal preference thing, but I liked using just another tab in my already running browser on the host machine. n Jun 7, 4:54 pm, "Nicolas M. Thi

[sage-devel] Re: No plot with plot3d

2011-05-20 Thread RegB
>From the fact that plot3d worked previously from the terminal and that 2d plots still work from the terminal with UBUNTU 11.04 I think we are still on track, i.e. in my case it is plot3d specific and fails whether called from a terminal or a notebook. On May 19, 5:46 pm, Kelvin Li wrote: > Plea

[sage-devel] Re: No plot with plot3d

2011-05-19 Thread RegB
ate the problem, wading through logs, etc. So I think I will shelve this for now and report back if it is still present with 4.7. On May 19, 12:31 pm, kcrisman wrote: > On May 19, 11:18 am, RegB <2regburg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > Although I have only been running UBUNTU 11.0

[sage-devel] Re: No plot with plot3d

2011-05-19 Thread RegB
Although I have only been running UBUNTU 11.04 for a week or two there are about 112 meg of updates outstanding, at least two of which are to Firefox. I am updating in the hope that java MIGHT be incidentally fixed and will try again. Failing that I will probably try 4.7 - might even wait for the "

[sage-devel] Re: No plot with plot3d

2011-05-19 Thread RegB
This looks at least a LITTLE BIT like the trouble I am having under UBUNTU 11.04 I am running within VirtualBox under Windows Vista on an amd64 laptop, which has worked very well previously. Plot3d has worked for me in previous releases of SAGE and VirtualBox with various distros of Linux, mostly D

[sage-devel] Re: ImportError: No module named glib

2011-05-17 Thread RegB
Exactly that happens here too, although I am running 11.04 in a virtual machine under VirtualBox 4.0.6 My other problem appears to be a regress of the jmol bug that fails to plot3d. Does your machine successfully plot3d ? e.g. the simplest example from the tutorial; x, y = var('x,y') plot3d(x^2 +

[sage-devel] Re: 4.6.2 build on Ubuntu 11.04 alpha 3 fails on crypt.so

2011-05-15 Thread RegB
I had (what appeared to me to be) same/similar problems with UBUNTU 11.04 I had NOT attempted to install flask. The "sage -fhttp://users.aims.ac.za/~jan/python-2.6.4.p10.spkg"; appeared to resolve that, but I had to re-build docs to get the help and the tutorial up. I run the plot3d examples as a c

[sage-devel] Re: Windows port status

2011-04-20 Thread RegB
Perhaps even farther off topic; I doubt that Cygwin (Cygwin/X) is in any case a good path for many/ most MS_Windows folk - from THEIR point of view. The path to getting Cygwin/X up and running "usefully" on a MS_Windows platform is long and arduous for the naive user, e.g. it was so for me. Oracle

[sage-devel] Re: Support contracts for commercial customers.

2011-02-25 Thread RegB
I don't know free market theory at all well - at all for that matter. It would SEEM that if market pull exists it would have shown itself by now, e.g. enterprising (3rd party) individuals would be selling per incident and/or per year contracts to do little more than search the docs and forums for a

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-07 Thread RegB
I respectfully disagree with some of the comments about copy editors. One doesn't need to be a mathematician or an entry level programmer to recognize that the installation guide is; a) one of the first documents that many SAGE users use. b) in need of some edits, particularly with respect to the s

[sage-devel] Re: documentation rebuild - how to force?

2011-01-17 Thread RegB
I tried this following an upgrade to 4.6.1. The help link from the start page to the doc browser worked, but links from there (e.g. tutorial) appeared to be broken. Running sage -docbuild reference html -S -a,-E seemed to do a lot, but made no difference to the broken links. Then I did some more

[sage-devel] Re: documentation rebuild - how to force?

2011-01-17 Thread RegB
I tried this following an upgrade to 4.6.1. The help link from the start page to the doc browser worked, but links from there (e.g. tutorial) appeared to be broken. Running sage -docbuild reference html -S -a,-E seemed to do a lot, but made no difference to the broken links. Then I did some more

[sage-devel] Re: Error building sage-4.6.2.alpha1

2011-01-17 Thread RegB
or whatever else you notice as missing after the uograde. I don't know if this should have been automatic with the upgrade, but in my case it appeared to not happen. \R On Jan 17, 7:11 am, RegB <2regburg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > 4.6.1  built on a virtual machine here as an upgrade,

[sage-devel] Re: Error building sage-4.6.2.alpha1

2011-01-17 Thread RegB
4.6.1 built on a virtual machine here as an upgrade, the 4.6.0 base was built on the same virtual machine. Linux UBUNTU 10.10 within Oracle VirtualBox 4.0 Unfortunately the docs don't seem to have connected properly, e.g. I can bring up the doc browser from the help link, but just about every lin

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-enhancing textbooks

2010-12-20 Thread RegB
rd. I am not sure if it would be a browser plug-in or whatever it is that tools attach to to use the clipboard (in M/S Windows) contents. On Dec 19, 12:38 am, Rob Beezer wrote: > On Dec 18, 7:04 am, RegB <2regburg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > I keep getting distract

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-enhancing textbooks

2010-12-19 Thread RegB
That appears to be very similar to what (I believe) I am thinking of. The difference is that I am wish-dreaming a plug-in for Firefox, which more of us use more generally more of the time than TeXMacs. I am imagining the situation where we come across an expression and would like to see a plot of i

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-enhancing textbooks

2010-12-18 Thread RegB
Thank you SO MUCH for this. I am a code hack from way back, with very poor math. In fact I got into SAGE primarily to learn the math that has been so lacking for far too long. I keep getting distracted with the code though (-: Here is a thought - probably not new to you; How practical would it be

[sage-devel] Re: Could you please clarify terms of use for WolframAlpha

2010-12-02 Thread RegB
Disclaimer; I am not a bar room lawyer, etc. I think this phrase may be key; "...incidental results or small groups of results from Wolfram|Alpha on non-commercial websites and blogs..." It depends on one's working definition of "small", maybe they are deliberately ambiguous here. "A dozen or so..

[sage-devel] Re: #9940: need help with parents and comparisons (and additive abelian groups)

2010-11-28 Thread RegB
I got G < H to alternately evaluate to true/false, for maybe half dozen trials, then it went to many true. My GUESS is that it is either due to some"residue" in something uninitialized, or a bug - which could also be an uninitialized issue ...somewhere. On Nov 28, 1:35 am, Simon King wrote: > Hi

[sage-devel] Re: LaTeX font issue with notebook

2010-11-28 Thread RegB
Your example works on my virtual box encased UBUNTU 10.10, Sage 4.6. Without knowing exactly which ones do what, I offer the list of mine; dpkg -l|grep texlive|grep ^ii|awk '{print $2}' texlive texlive-base texlive-binaries texlive-common texlive-doc-base texlive-extra-utils texlive-font-utils texl

[sage-devel] Re: NEW: Sage Windows installer.exe (577 MB): it's a 1-click install !!!

2010-11-26 Thread RegB
time user achieve a working set-up. I know you can't make it the total manual about anything and everything, but I think these items are "needed". Best, \R On Nov 25, 3:44 pm, emil wrote: > Hi RegB, > > thanks for extremly valuable feedback! > > > Thanks, > &

[sage-devel] Re: NEW: Sage Windows installer.exe (577 MB): it's a 1-click install !!!

2010-11-25 Thread RegB
Thanks, A correction to the failure to evaluate. On a "FRESH" system, such as a windoze user might try this on. When sage is started a pop up requester appears asking for a new password, but it is quickly overwritten by the browser image, so it can be easily missed by someone not looking/waiting fo

[sage-devel] Re: NEW: Sage Windows installer.exe (577 MB): it's a 1-click install !!!

2010-11-25 Thread RegB
Thanks, A correction to the failure to evaluate. On a "FRESH" system, such as a windoze user might try this on. When sage is started a pop up requester appears asking for a new password, but it is quickly overwritten by the browser image, so it can be easily missed by someone not looking/waiting fo

[sage-devel] Re: NEW: Sage Windows installer.exe (577 MB): it's a 1-click install !!!

2010-11-25 Thread RegB
ithin Virtual Box) I have found it simplest to install the weird package with synaptic package manager - icedtea, etc. I think it would be good if you could include a jre. I need to put the .iso image onto a USB memory card so I can write back my setup. On Nov 25, 4:29 am, emil wrote: > Hello

[sage-devel] Re: NEW: Sage Windows installer.exe (577 MB): it's a 1-click install !!!

2010-11-25 Thread RegB
n was inappropriate at best. On Nov 25, 4:29 am, emil wrote: > Hello RegB, > > thank you for testing! > > On Nov 25, 5:05 am, RegB <2regburg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > The .exe version appeared to install and detect my grub loader, which > > I was told to edit a

[sage-devel] Re: NEW: Sage Windows installer.exe (577 MB): it's a 1-click install !!!

2010-11-24 Thread RegB
The .exe version appeared to install and detect my grub loader, which I was told to edit a file for. I was "paperless" at the time, so didn't write anything down. I wasn't remembering the specific instructions the next time I booted. The .iso file booted OK from a CD and the browser came up fine

[sage-devel] Re: building sage took more then 24h now

2010-11-22 Thread RegB
I have a similarly modest system and my experience with UBUNTU 10.10 has been that the standard set of packages takes about 8 hours, maybe 6 1/2 of build and 1 1/2 of testing and document building. Anecdotal ? Yes, but 24h + to build some unknown package(s) is no surprise to me (-: You could monit

[sage-devel] Re: 4.6 build - Atlas fails on Ubuntu 10.10 on amd turion X2 laptop

2010-11-21 Thread RegB
ot necessary to disable CPU throttling in the virtual machine. I can speculate why, but Atlas reports that it cannot detect throttling. On Nov 6, 10:45 am, RegB <2regburg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > I get confused with the directions about running in virtual box (-: > I think  it should

[sage-devel] Re: 4.6 build - Atlas fails on Ubuntu 10.10 on amd turion X2 laptop

2010-11-06 Thread RegB
So far that is working, i.e. Atlas has completed and no other packages seem to have tripped over any side effects. Thanks again. On Nov 5, 7:24 pm, Volker Braun wrote: > You can try my new atlas spkg > athttp://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10226 > if you have a minute. > > SAGE_ATLAS_ARCH

[sage-devel] Re: 4.6 build - Atlas fails on Ubuntu 10.10 on amd turion X2 laptop

2010-11-06 Thread RegB
I get confused with the directions about running in virtual box (-: I think it should be OK and very possible to create virtual machines, say within virtual box within Windows Vista and install Linux in those VMs , then go ahead and install Sage on the Linux. i.e. (Windows Vista (Virtual Box(UBUNT

[sage-devel] Re: 4.6 build - Atlas fails on Ubuntu 10.10 on amd turion X2 laptop

2010-11-06 Thread RegB
I would like to try that. I will report back results (good or bad). Is there any info you would like me to collect from good/bad results ? Thanks. On Nov 5, 7:24 pm, Volker Braun wrote: > You can try my new atlas spkg > athttp://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10226 > if you have a minute. >

[sage-devel] Re: 4.6 build - Atlas fails on Ubuntu 10.10 on amd turion X2 laptop

2010-11-05 Thread RegB
mment (-:} On Nov 5, 3:27 pm, Mike Witt wrote: > On 11/05/2010 11:23:01 AM, RegB wrote: > > > > > Thanks, > > I have ads blocked, fairly sure that none were playing any U-tube or > > other graphics, > > no adobe flash. > > Looking at System monitor, bare

[sage-devel] Re: 4.6 build - Atlas fails on Ubuntu 10.10 on amd turion X2 laptop

2010-11-05 Thread RegB
; > What is your processor and amount of RAM? > > -M. Hampton > > On Nov 5, 9:12 am, RegB <2regburg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > WOW, that was quick - THANKS. > > I reviewed all of those and while interesting/useful they seem to be > > not applicab

Re: [sage-devel] 4.6 build - Atlas fails on Ubuntu 10.10 on amd turion X2 laptop

2010-11-05 Thread RegB
at, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:30 AM, RegB <2regburg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > I know this is a modest laptop, but it seems to be in the tuning > > section that the Atlas install fails after 12 hours or so. > > You might want to read this section of the Sage FAQ: > > http://

[sage-devel] 4.6 build - Atlas fails on Ubuntu 10.10 on amd turion X2 laptop

2010-11-05 Thread RegB
I know this is a modest laptop, but it seems to be in the tuning section that the Atlas install fails after 12 hours or so. Here is the last section (STAGE-2) of the install.log; IN STAGE 2 INSTALL: TYPE-DEPENDENT TUNING