Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-13 Thread jbi joe
Ended up using a < instead of a less than sign. So then the tag showed up. So at least I know that part is working. Im looking at the emails that come in and I cant tell any difference between the spam and the ham. Each has the same balance of numeric values. Some are 0.0 and spam and some are 0

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-13 Thread jbi joe
WoW, Interesting. When I try to uses the less than sign as u describe, I get exceptions spitting out. Cant process config.xml.. David Legg wrote: > > Joe, > >> Viewing the config.xml in firfox works OK. >> > > That's a good test. > >> SO I did a little test. OI attempted to add a head

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-13 Thread David Legg
Joe, Viewing the config.xml in firfox works OK. That's a good test. SO I did a little test. OI attempted to add a header where I conjured up a name and set the X-MessageIsSpamProbability > 0.05" to add the header. Still nothing in the message.. As a quick check why not tempora

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-12 Thread jbi joe
Viewing the config.xml in firfox works OK. I do all my edits using the vi editor and make sure no extra chars are on the end of line. SO I dont think thats it, unless a line that is over run by real long xml string is broken and still viewable from firefox??? I have seen that before. Using you

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-12 Thread David Legg
Kent, and if these exist during the Spam training, i.e. 100% of your example Spam emails contain these tokens, perhaps this is tainting the token ratings? Idea + wild guess = HTH Thanks for the ideas. Let's hope it is simply down to a mis-configured config.xml. Although, even if it is i

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-12 Thread David Legg
Joe, I admire your tenacity ;-) Making progress! I pulled in the perts from your config.xml that looked like thety applied to bayesian analysis. Now Im seeing numeric values. However, the X-MessageIsSpam tag is missing from ALL messages. I do see all the values in the X-MessageIsSpamProbabili

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-12 Thread jbi joe
Making progress! I pulled in the perts from your config.xml that looked like thety applied to bayesian analysis. Now Im seeing numeric values. However, the X-MessageIsSpam tag is missing from ALL messages. I do see all the values in the X-MessageIsSpamProbability: 1.0826917212753594E-212 tag, in

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-12 Thread jbi joe
Making progress! I pulled in the perts from your config.xml that looked like thety applied to bayesian analysis. Now Im seeing numeric values. However, the X-MessageIsSpam tag is missing from ALL messages. I do see all the values in the X-MessageIsSpamProbability: 1.0826917212753594E-212 tag, in

RE: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-11 Thread Kent Butler
tainting the token ratings? Idea + wild guess = HTH Kent -Original Message- From: David Legg [mailto:david.l...@searchevent.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:57 PM To: James Users List Subject: Re: How do I reduce SPAM > Here is what I see as well; ( o

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-10 Thread David Legg
Joe, If it helps I have posted a summary of my working config.xml settings on this list before. Here they are again. I've removed all the non-Bayesian bits and replaced them with a line of dots. Maybe it will give you some ideas. config.xml ---

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-10 Thread David Legg
Joe, I think I may have it!WHich is it? I found two different versions of the compare; I spotted that too but didn't mention it because I didn't think it would make any difference. In my working config I use: - onMailetException="ignore"> db://maildb

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-10 Thread jbi joe
I think I may have it!WHich is it? I found two different versions of the compare; 1. mine -- true X-MessageIsSpam true 2. Official james site ---

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-10 Thread jbi joe
ALL messages contain these tags. The emails are a mixture. Some are plain test and some html. There are some that come through with pictures,attachments, and the stnadard hoopla. I must have something wrong in my config.xml. Why would the NaN always show up. David Legg wrote: > > >> Her

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-10 Thread David Legg
Here is what I see as well; ( on ALL messages) X-MessageIsSpamProbability: NaN X-MessageIsSpam: true Mmm... Ok. Well, as you may know 'NaN' is short for 'Not a Number' in floating point speak. So something has caused the spam probability value to be such a large or small number that J

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-10 Thread jbi joe
Yes that is there too; I left it off, I dont run spamassasin that I know of. Could be in front of my serves, other landing zones.. Here is what I see as well; ( on ALL messages) X-MessageIsSpamProbability: NaN X-MessageIsSpam: true David Legg wrote: > > Joe, > >> Here is what is in the em

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-09 Thread David Legg
Joe, Here is what is in the emails that are getting tagged bad; X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Report: -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.] If you can't see any header in the email called 'X-MessageIsSpamProbability' then you aren't loo

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-09 Thread jbi joe
Here is what is in the emails that are getting tagged bad; X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Report: -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.] jbi joe wrote: > > IM getting way too much spam. I have tried to train the bayesian analysis > mailet by

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-08 Thread David Legg
Joe, jbi joe wrote: UPDATE Thought I would provide an update to this.. WHAT could I be doing wrong. It sounds very strange. I think you need to check on the X-MessageIsSpamProbability headers of a few emails in your deadletter repository to see what level of probability the Bayesian filt

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-08 Thread jbi joe
UPDATE Thought I would provide an update to this.. Feeding spam to my "spam" email causes all email to be thought of as spam wether it is or isnt. SO I started feeding more "HAM" in thinking that maybe there need to be more training for HAM. Still ALL email coming in is thougt to be spam and dum

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-02 Thread David Legg
Hi Joe, Looks like feast or famine! I think I have it working. Great! I knew you could do it. I can see entries in the bayesiananalysis_spam table when I send in a spam record. Good, that's proof enough that your spam attachments are being processed by the feeder. However, one su

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-02 Thread jbi joe
Looks like feast or famine! I think I have it working. I can see entries in the bayesiananalysis_spam table when I send in a spam record.However, one such spam causees all subsequent emails to be considered spam. It looks like some kinda spam prevenetion detractor. It circumvents everythi

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-01 Thread David Legg
Hi Joe, Digging in DEEPER yields the following; 1. mailet log says there is no mail server named hostname.myfirst.domain so I change my config.xml to just s...@mydomain.com for bayesian analysis. ( What should I be forwarding my spam to??? DO I need to purchase another domain for this to wor

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-01 Thread Al Stu
Just a few words for you. Spamhaus Spamcop SPF (Sender Policy Framework) Reverse Pointer Lookup - Original Message - From: "jbi joe" To: Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 4:40 AM Subject: How do I reduce SPAM IM getting way too much spam. I have tried to train the bayesian analy

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-01 Thread jbi joe
Digging in DEEPER yields the following; 1. mailet log says there is no mail server named hostname.myfirst.domain so I change my config.xml to just s...@mydomain.com for bayesian analysis. ( What should I be forwarding my spam to??? DO I need to purchase another domain for this to work? 2. Al

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-02-01 Thread David Legg
jbi joe wrote: Corpus is empty.. I see 5 tables in db. All of them are empty. | bayesiananalysis_ham | | bayesiananalysis_messagecounts | | bayesiananalysis_spam | | deadletter | | spool Not sure why.. How can I debug? Are you sure you are forwa

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-01-31 Thread jbi joe
Corpus is empty.. I see 5 tables in db. All of them are empty. | bayesiananalysis_ham | | bayesiananalysis_messagecounts | | bayesiananalysis_spam | | deadletter | | spool Not sure why.. How can I debug? David Legg wrote: > > Hi Joe, > > jbi joe wro

Re: How do I reduce SPAM

2009-01-31 Thread David Legg
Hi Joe, jbi joe wrote: IM getting way too much spam. I have tried to train the bayesian analysis mailet by feeding it spam and notspam. However, it does nothing. I haven't looked too closely but I did spot that your config file has the following setting: - true This setting will mean