Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

In a message dated 10/2/2003 6:52:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * In 1991, he [Tom Wishon] and Jeff Summitt co-authored the book "Modern Guide to Shaft Fitting". If you plot their DSFI formula, it relates frequency to torque for the same subject

Re: Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

meant to type 'shaft is bowed away from target just before impact' Maybe I'll learn to proof my posts better in the next life. > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/10/03 Fri AM 11:20:29 EDT > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Re: ShopT

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should be at straight and square for the best performance. llhack > [Original Message] > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 10/3/2003 10:43:55 AM > Subject: Re: Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60 > > While this looks good on paper, it doe

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AIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/10/03 Fri AM 10:01:28 EDT > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60 > > Boy I wish someone in the golf industry would change the way we talk about > the torsional stiffness of a shaft. Your customer is right, of co

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:48 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60 In a message dated 10/2/2003 6:52:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 07:05 AM 10/2/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:>...the torque in relationship to relative stif

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

Boy I wish someone in the golf industry would change the way we talk about the torsional stiffness of a shaft.  Your customer is right, of course, a shaft no more has 'torque' than a spring has 'force'.  Both have resistance to deformation, in the case of a shaft and its resistance to 'twisting'

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

In a message dated 10/2/2003 6:52:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 07:05 AM 10/2/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >...the torque in relationship to relative stiffness or frequency is a >fitting variable that is often overlooked when fitting a shaft to an >individual. I

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

Dave    It was a handout chart at the PCS expo a few years ago. I underastand the changing veiws of torque over the years but I still firmly believe in its value in relationship to feel. Fujikura makes a ahft that is called a S.I.X. ehich has six degrees of torque which I ahve hit and it allows yo

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

For low volume shop you might check Golfsmith. They used to have a very basic torsional resistance measuring tool. Two stands to support the butt and the tip. A locking arm that attached to the tip with a built in degree wheel. A one pound weight that hung on the arm. Not digital. Fairly inexpensiv

Re: Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

; From: Dave Tutelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/10/02 Thu AM 09:51:44 EDT > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60 > > At 07:05 AM 10/2/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >...the torque in relationship to relative stiffness or frequency

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

At 07:05 AM 10/2/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...the torque in relationship to relative stiffness or frequency is a fitting variable that is often overlooked when fitting a shaft to an individual. If we are talking frequency which only tells you half a story, a 250 cpm shaft @ 2 degrees of

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David     So true, also the torque in relationship to relative stiffness or frequency is a fitting variable that is often overlooked when fitting a shaft to an individual. If we are talking frequency which only tells you half a story, a 250 cpm shaft @ 2 degrees of torque will feel and perform dif

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

In a message dated 10/1/2003 1:32:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that because you cannot change the torque of a shaft this factor is not worth testing against specs. unless you question a shafts supplier's honesty in printing the specs. If you don't trust that why a

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

At 10:07 PM 10/1/03 +, scott1256ca wrote: First post here, so thanks for your patience if this is not appropriate. I tried to search for flex board, "flex board", 'flex board' and either come up with nothing or come up with every post that contains either flex or board. I don't see anything ob

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

First post here, so thanks for your patience if this is not appropriate. I tried to search for flex board, "flex board", 'flex board' and either come up with nothing or come up with every post that contains either flex or board. I don't see anything obvious on how to refine the search, and I can't

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60 In a message dated 10/1/03 4:03:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . I think Dave T  provided these.Wasn't me; it was RK. Should work just fine.Thanks, Dave for the correction.I would add here IMHO anyone starting in club bui

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At 04:28 PM 10/1/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would add here IMHO anyone starting in club building should first build the deflection board in the archives, learn to calculate swingweight using what should be one of your first tools, a good gram scale. I am often asked by a customer about

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

In a message dated 10/1/03 4:03:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . I think Dave T  provided these. Wasn't me; it was RK. Should work just fine. Thanks, Dave for the correction. I would add here IMHO anyone starting in club building should first build the deflection board

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

At 02:54 PM 10/1/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/1/03 1:38:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what is a good reliable method of checking torque on a shaft? can you recommend equipment for a low volume work shop? thanks - Jim Check the archives here fo

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

In a message dated 10/1/03 1:38:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what is a good reliable method of checking torque on a shaft?  can you recommend equipment for a low volume work shop? thanks - Jim Check the archives here for directions and plans on building a torque tester

RE: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60 Hi, I believe you said that you made the measurement that gave you a torque value of 6.2 with a grip on? If so you aren't that far away from what I would expect. Fujikura list the Torque Value for the Vista Pro

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

80 X listed. Anyone have any notes on these shafts? Pat McGoldrick--On Target Golf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 4:53 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60 > JOHN, >

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s on these shafts? Pat McGoldrick--On Target Golf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 4:53 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60 > JOHN, > I have always assumed ( and I d

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however, due to > it's damping will increase the torque reading by just under a degree. > Cheers, > John K > - Original Message - > From: Dave Tutelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 12:30 PM > Subjec

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under a degree. Cheers, John K - Original Message - From: Dave Tutelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 12:30 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60 > At 12:56 PM 9/28/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >That torq

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At 11:00 PM 9/28/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, This was the reading when the club was ready to be used. Yes the head mounted, done, completed.:-) The measurement was taken with the Club Scout III. Am I missing something here? This would not be the true reading? Pat McGoldrick--On Target

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

- From: "Dave Tutelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60 > At 12:56 PM 9/28/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >That torq reading is the finished club. > >P

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

At 12:56 PM 9/28/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That torq reading is the finished club. Pat McGoldrick--On Target Golf Pat, You say it was the finished club. I assume you mean that, and not the cut shaft. The finished club means the head was mounted when you measured it. How did you measure t

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

PROTECTED]  - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 11:59 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60 In a message dated 9/28/03 10:36:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . Raw specs = 46&

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

Subject: RE: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60 Pat, 274 cpm @ 45" is an 8.2 flex on the PCS Equalizer Chart, combined with the low torque of this shaft, it must play like a ski pole.  This is a very stiff flex for a 96 mph swing.  I have never used the Fujikura shafts and c

Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

In a message dated 9/28/03 10:36:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . Raw specs = 46" @264cpm w/205 gr. weight club scout III. Finished club = 45" @ 274cpm D2  6.2*torq  330gr. total weight. Is this not more like XXS? Did you consider that the shaft would become stiffer when

RE: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60

Title: Message Pat, 274 cpm @ 45" is an 8.2 flex on the PCS Equalizer Chart, combined with the low torque of this shaft, it must play like a ski pole.  This is a very stiff flex for a 96 mph swing.  I have never used the Fujikura shafts and cannot comment on how they play.   Tom Byers