Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-10 Thread Mark A. Patton
Not to make this thread longer that it should be, but I will take an "Arnie type" view and say: This appears to be solid sales data. Bottom line- sales are being made to satisfied customers. Now if the FitChip is either: A: decreasing your cost of business (the dollar value of time spent on fi

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-10 Thread DADUGALLY
In a message dated 11/9/2002 6:31:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Lloyd If you are going to throw out the statistic on Shaft Lab = 50% fitting success, then I would be curious as to:  FitChip = XX% fitting success BTW, what is wrong in building demo's an

RE: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-09 Thread Harry F. Schiestel
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts TFlan After hearing all the comments on this subject I find your comment was right on. It sounds like there are a lot of players out there that are not fitted properly by Swing speed as the examples given have suggested. Since Dave seems to be in lov

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-09 Thread Lloyd Hackman
itted one of my customers recently and missed horribly, he has come back to me to get the shafts changed. llhack - Original Message - From: "tflan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:13 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-08 Thread Grampa
So Arnie Can you share the details of your "handy dandy cleaner/brush gizmo" ? Thanks. Bob Sielski On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:37:07 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >two and he pops off the old o-ring and bore thru plug, blows off the >grip, cleans it in his handy dandy cleaner/brush gizmo, and y

RE: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-08 Thread Dan Neubecker
TECTED] > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts > > > I suppose I should have said "relatively consistent within models" for > steel. However, graphites within models are and have been all > too often far > apart in freq measurements. Most DG's for instan

RE: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-07 Thread Harry F. Schiestel
arryS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-shoptalk@;mail.msen.com]On Behalf Of tflan Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 11:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts I suppose I should have said "relatively consistent within models" for

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-07 Thread tflan
I suppose I should have said "relatively consistent within models" for steel. However, graphites within models are and have been all too often far apart in freq measurements. Most DG's for instance stay within a reasonable freq envelope. In my experience most Grafalloy 3.5's stray to a much wider d

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-07 Thread Bernie Baymiller
Dave, Good way to describe it...kind of elegance like Weiss' spine finder. :-) Bernie Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Dave Tutelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 6:03 PM Subject: Re: Sho

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-07 Thread Dave Tutelman
At 11:16 AM 11/7/02 -0800, you wrote: Well sure. I agree. As you are no doubt aware, I've complained long and often about the letter designations for shaft flex. I have, over the past 6 years, installed roughly a dozen different flex shafts in a few driver heads, measured them on my freq meter, an

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-07 Thread Dave Tutelman
At 10:13 AM 11/7/02 -0800, you wrote: Isn't this essentially a rehash of the Lloyd Hackman theory of shaft fitting? TFlan Not at all, though the results are familiar. Lloyd has a much more elegant way to get to even more extreme results. DaveT

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-07 Thread tflan
clubs with firmer shafts. In the main however, I'd say the slower the swing speed, the softer the shaft. TFlan - Original Message - From: "Al Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:49 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: X f

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-07 Thread Al Taylor
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts > Alberto: > It is the old axiom (axiom's, axia?) that I always wonder > about...I've mentioned before my favorite book is "How We Know What > Isn't So". > I've always followed the longest/softest theory and never tr

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-07 Thread tflan
Isn't this essentially a rehash of the Lloyd Hackman theory of shaft fitting? TFlan - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:27 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts > Alberto: > It is the o

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-07 Thread Macbyrd
In a message dated 11/6/2002 6:25:46 PM Hawaiian Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm a high handicapper but straighter, better trajectory, more roll/overall distance, sounded pretty good to me. Plus I'll be able to say "me? I hit an X." A lot to that. A year or so ago I built a tippe

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-07 Thread Burgess Howell
When I was a young bull, I played X100's in my old First Flight irons. Control was excellent and predictable, but the distance was probably not what I could have gotten by going a bit softer. Now that I'm an old(er) fart, I no longer have the desire to crank like hell on every shot. I play mo

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-07 Thread Ed Boggess
7 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts > Alberto: > It is the old axiom (axiom's, axia?) that I always wonder > about...I've mentioned before my favorite book is "How We Know What > Isn't So". > I've always followed the longest/softest theory and ne

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-07 Thread Brian Lyall
John, I have found(with the help of a couple of STer's and alot of experimentation) that I like irons that are a soft R or A flex and woods that are stiffer. My standby driver(966SD/PC50 combo comes out around a 6.0 at 44". I also like my fw's to be on the stiff end of regular.

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-06 Thread Steve \"Cub\" Culbreth
-- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 6:27 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts > Alberto: > It is the old axiom (axiom's, axia?) that I always wonder > about...I've mentioned before my favorite book is "How

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-06 Thread Al Taylor
Of course there is another axiom that says never test a new club in cold weather. Therefore, you must go south to test the new club. I am available. Al At 11:27 PM 11/6/2002, you wrote: Alberto: It is the old axiom (axiom's, axia?) that I always wonder about...I've mentioned before my favorit

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-06 Thread jhm
Alberto: It is the old axiom (axiom's, axia?) that I always wonder about...I've mentioned before my favorite book is "How We Know What Isn't So". I've always followed the longest/softest theory and never tried shafting up the ol' telephone pole and simply wondered if the longer/softer theory wa

Re: ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-06 Thread Al Taylor
John, There is an old axiom in fitting that says put them in the longest softest shaft they can hit properly. First of all, what ball flight are you trying to change? A mandatory part of fitting is that it feels good. Going with XX shafts will have to feel good and the golfer will have to mak

ShopTalk: X flex shafts

2002-11-06 Thread jhm
I talked to a guy today that told me he has a 110 mph swing, likes reg irons and X flex shafts. Said he feels he gets more roll and total distance (maybe a little less carry) and hits it a lot straighter. Has anyone had any experience (and luck) going "over their heads" with super stiff X flex