Dispite what you've shown the shaft does when it oscillates, the whole
deal is irrelevent. If you consider Alan's experiment, the club has hit
the ball at the 1/4 cycle mark, where it returned on the EXACT plane that
it was loaded in, regardless of spine position. What happens after that
1
David,
Ha! You're right. I was just putting together a 13° Cy, saw that 13 and 15
and thought Dean meant degrees. Yes, 32 does sound about right, since the 5W
and 7W are about 35mm.
Bernie
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Chris,
Geez, you're a darn gorilla if you can swing that 51-incher consistently. I
don't know if I could get the head off the ground. :-)
Think David is right on looking at Dean's post again. Was confused. I've
been doing so many 13° fairway drivers for my son's young guns lately, that
I was assu
Burgess,
Just made up a set of lefty irons with the Excelsior R-flex stepless steel
shafts. I used 9 shafts, 8 of which were 122 point-something grams and one
shaft that was 120 point-something grams. I asked for the lightest shafts
they had...spec is 125 grams at 41" raw length. Tip sensitivity w
Corey,
> Theres no such thing as a spineless steel shaft and probably
won't be in our lifetime.Interesting that you should mention that. I
have a 5.0 Rifle iron shaft that I've been saving because it is as perfect a
steel iron shaft as I've seen...only .002" deflection around the circumfer
At 10:29 PM 3/3/03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/3/2003 10:21:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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Did you swingweight it conventionally, or go with 6-7 extra swingweight
points?
Dave, If I can remember, it was a D8 with the Winn wrap. I still have a
c
I have an idea on how to re-shaft a pinned shaft, 1973
Hogan Apex irons, but perhaps someone would share
their method. It may be easier than what I have in
mind.
Thanks
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I've had a few rifles like that as well. The problem is that there are a
lot more of them on the flip side that have an absolutely huge spine at or
over 10 cpm.
Scott
At 08:35 AM 3/4/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Corey,
> There's no such thing as a spineless steel shaft and probably won't be
in our
Hey Bernie - how would you say they compare to the old Balistik's for feel? I always
thought the Balistiks had a nice feel due to the relatively soft tip section (compared
to Rifles anyway). The price sounds right if they are any good. Thanks, Jeff
-Original Message-
From: Bernie Baym
Pat:
I
respectfully disagree with that. If what you are saying is true than the oscillation
pattern would be the same no matter what plane the shaft is twanged in. I know
that is not true. I have also plotted the path an unloaded shaft takes in the
first full cycle and the ret
Bernie, Talk about trying to overcome a personal handicap vs agolfing handicap you should be in my shoes. W/in two very short years i went from a 7 HCP to a 36+ HCP and only lost about 100 yards on my drives, no matter how long the shaft is on my driver.
RK
Manufacturer's of World Class
At 08:59 AM 3/4/03 -0600, Donald Johnson wrote:
Pat:
I respectfully disagree with that. If what you are saying is
true than the oscillation pattern would be the same no matter what plane
the shaft is twanged in. I know that is not true. I have also plotted the
path an unloaded shaft
Jeff,
> Hey Bernie - how would you say they compare to the old Balistik's for
feel? I always thought the Balistiks had a nice feel due to the relatively
soft tip section (compared to Rifles anyway). The price sounds right if
they are any good.
Both Balistiks and Rifles are too heavy for me. Tr
Bernie - thanks for the info. I've got some Airlites ordered from GS. They called
yesterday to say that they would ship out on Thursday. Have you tried the TT TX-90?
They have a pretty good kick to them but I can't seem to really get a set to perform
well for me - I can't put my finger on wh
RK,
Must be caused by all that MB
sunshine and salt air, RK. :-) My Mom had Parkinson's and I don't need any
of that. I have enough trouble hitting a putt on line anymore with reasonably
steady hands. I may soon have to face the fact that I'll never be a 2 again, but
I'm not giving up wit
Dave,
> That's because the hands roll, so the club rotates 90* around the shaft
> axis during the downswing. But most of the bending (until centrifugal
force
> -- tip droop -- takes over near impact) will remain in the target plane.
If you look at the Bobby Jones single strobe pics, you'll notice
Has anyone here had any experience changing the lofts of Beryllium Ping Eye
2
irons. I have an original set of square grooves and was thinking of buying
another sand wedge on ebay and bending it to the loft of a gap wedge since I
like the bounce on this club. The guys at ProGolf in Nashville have s
"Not enough interest has been applied to the most interesting (IMHO)
question: at what size does spine begin to matter."
Dave makes an excellent point here. All of my experimenting with customers
has been with shafts that have a predominant spine so that I know the
customers can feel a differen
Do you like the current bounce or what the bounce will be after you've
bent it?
Brian
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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Bending Ping BeCu's
Has any
Mark,
I'd say it's not bendable (just my voice of experience). I won't even
attempt them in by shop. BeCu is very dense and very brittle.
I'd want who ever said "no problem" to guarentee in writing that they can
bend it as you have requested and will replace at no cost to you should it
break in t
That's a good point. Since I have no experience building clubs yet
I didn't realize this will change the bounce angle. To steepen the loft
should reduce the bounce then, right? Now I'm starting to think this
idea might not be so hot. Without hitting it I won't know if I will
like the new bounce or
I might just do a little trial and error since picking up a used
Cleveland 56* is fairly cheap compared to the Ping. If I bend the
Cleveland and don't like it I could then go to the Ping. All I know
is I need a gap wedge- preferrably in a 54* loft and love the feel
of the coppers.
Mark
-Origi
In a message dated 3/4/2003 5:48:38 AM Hawaiian Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* There have been no convincing controlled experiments to support the
ideal alignment, if there is one. There is ample anecdotal evidence to
convince me that alignment can make a difference, but nowhere nea
In a message dated 3/4/2003 6:48:52 AM Hawaiian Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you look at the Bobby Jones single strobe pics, you'll notice there seems
to be almost no hand rotation of the shaft before impact. His hand position
on the shaft is almost identical at address, at the top
Don't forget you may have to drill down the shaft to cut the pin to get
it out.
Al
At 12:52 PM 3/4/2003, you wrote:
Knock the
pin out with a small punch. Pull shaft. Epoxy new shaft. Drill small hole
in shaft using hole in hosel as guide. Install pin. Trim closely. Peen
over and flush as nicely a
Knock the pin out with a small punch. Pull shaft. Epoxy new shaft. Drill small hole in shaft using hole in hosel as guide. Install pin. Trim closely. Peen over and flush as nicely as possible.
Rich "Mac" McHattie
Mac's Golf
First off, these aren't "copper." They're beryllium copper. They're hard and
brittle. Bending them is a crapshoot. I wouldn't bend one more than a couple
of degrees, and I'd warn my customer that they could easily break.
Second; if you change a 54° loft to 60° - a 6° change, not only do you have
a
Dave,
We're in the same camp on this issue - I've attempted to explain this here to some
extent, and much more on both the Spinetalk forum (which I've kinda refrained from
even reading lately) and in Dan's Neufinder forum. I'm very pleased that you engineer
types (thanks Alan, too)have been abl
I reshafted a TM 200 3-wood last week. There was a
steel DG X100 in it that the guy couldn't hit. I replaced it with a UST PF 75
stiff, .335" tip. I used a shim and a slightly oversize 1/2" ferrule. The guy
hits the ball really hard - 1 handicapper. No problems.
TFlan
- Original M
Punch the pin out, heat the hosel, pull the head off, reshaft, fill the pin
holes with either epoxy or replace the pin with a nail.
TFlan
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From: "Dan Allan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 6:24 AM
Subject: ShopTalk: Re-shafting
I think RK would win in the scare category if he uses his 18"
putter. Not a pretty sight. ;-)
Al
At 11:31 AM 3/4/2003, you wrote:
RK,
Must be caused by all that MB sunshine and salt
air, RK. :-) My Mom had Parkinson's and I don't need any of that. I
have enough trouble hitting a putt on line
Thanks, Bernie. That's a much better weight spread than was discussed last
year.
Do you recall the distribution of those 7cpms? I'm wondering if they were
consistent within your ~122g batch and were skewed by that ~120g shaft.
And I agree with your assessment of Raven. I've had only limited
Just to add
Anyone who doesn't think the shaft is loaded in one plane then unloaded in a different
plane in the 'typical' swing needs to check out TT shaftlab data. Only Natural Golf
(AFAIK) attempts to use a single lever swing - everyone else uses a 2-lever swing
where the wrist hinge/unhi
Bernie,
Remember back about 5 or 6 years ago when we had a fellow that was a
department head at a college and was an expert on physiology? He explained
quite precisely how the release took place and that it was the rotation of
the forearms. I think Dave T's explanation is as good as it gets fo
I read the compilation of messages on drilling and reaqming from RK (Richard
Kennedy) posted on the Clubmaker-online page, and got a lot of good info!
RK suggested purchasing a range of reamer sizes, .371, .373, .375 for
parallel irons, etc. I looked at the Wholesale Tool Mfg. web site, and they
l
Thanks TFlan,
I guess I didn't say what I was planning which was never to turn a 60 into
a 54. I wanted to get a 56 and turn it into a 54. I like your suggestion
of the bermuda grind and BeCu clubs even in a Cleveland are no longer sold
except old stock or used. Now I just have to find a club build
Golfworks has aluminum pins in two sizes for use in older clubheads. The
Maltby book has instructions for the procedure. I re-shafted such an iron
last year without a problem.
John B
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Sent: Tuesday, March
Of course we don't want to forget the dangers of grinding beryllium and the
toxic dust that may be created.
Al
At 01:59 PM 3/4/2003, you wrote:
Thanks TFlan,
I guess I didn't say what I was planning which was never to turn a 60 into
a 54. I wanted to get a 56 and turn it into a 54. I like your
Hi all,
Can anyone report on the characteristics of the Grafalloy Blue, which currently is
available from GolfWorks at a VERY good price? I personally would be interested in a
comparison of the Blue with a SK Fiber Pure Energy. TIA,
Hunter
L. Hunter KEVIL
As long as the new shaft is steel. Dont drill
graphite.
Carl
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Knock the pin out with a small punch. Pull
> shaft. Epoxy new shaft. Drill
> small hole in shaft using hole in hosel as
> guide. Install pin. Trim closely.
> Peen over and flush as nicely as possible.
>
If you're near Atlanta I'll extend an invite to chek out the grinding I've done for
both myself and several local PGA pros. I don't have to do the work for you, but I'd
happily offer insight on which grinds work for particular course conditions and swing
types. We've been experimenting with th
At 11:48 AM 3/4/03 -0500, Bernie Baymiller wrote:
> That's because the hands roll, so the club rotates 90* around the shaft
> axis during the downswing. But most of the bending (until centrifugal
force
> -- tip droop -- takes over near impact) will remain in the target plane.
If you look at the Bob
Thank you for your input
I'll be back if I get stuck
--- Carl McKinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As long as the new shaft is steel. Dont drill
> graphite.
>
> Carl
>
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Knock the pin out with a small punch. Pull
> > shaft. Epoxy new shaft. Drill
> > small hol
Tflan,
Thanks for the reply. I am reshafting from graphite to steel with a
Dynamic Gold S300-0.350". My guy is also a 1-handicapper. I will
give a report when I finish the job.
Jim McFerran
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From:
tflan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March
Dave,
> The pictures where the wrists are cocked show the back of the left hand to
> the camera. Between 009 and 010, the hands turn so the edge of the left
> hand is to the camera. That's a 90* roll in the last fraction of the
> downswing before impact. Which is EXACTLY what I was talking about.
I downloaded the Dynacraft shaft DSFI index. There
seems to be a difference in their swing speed recommendations from Golfsmith's
RSSR. It seems to me that the DSFI shows their results to be softer flexes
as Golfsmiths. The 5 iron length is 37.5 in the DFSI but what is it in the
Golfsmith's
Burgess,
Well, Tony hand-picked those shafts for lightest weight. They should have
been close. Here's the deflection distribution as recorded on the NBP...the
lighter 120 gram shaft was the softest (.425"), a 122.9 gram shaft was the
stiffest (.448"). I didn't record it, but one of the softest (I
Jeff,
I have a TX90 wood shaft in shipment right now. Haven't tried a steel shaft
in a wood since graphite shafts were invented, but weights are getting low
enough now to make them a possibility again. Let me know how the AirLites
perform.
I'd stick with what works, but as soon as I get 50 custom
What I feel is the most important aspect of spine aligning is the type of
measurement the NeuFinder gets into--magnitude. My perfect shaft would have
no measurable spine effect (residual bend or otherwise). Next best scenario
would be a set of shafts, TESTED FOR STRAIGHTNESS, with minimal but at le
At 03:48 PM 3/4/03 -0500, Bernie Baymiller wrote:
> The pictures where the wrists are cocked show the back of the left hand to
> the camera. Between 009 and 010, the hands turn so the edge of the left
> hand is to the camera. That's a 90* roll in the last fraction of the
> downswing before impact.
Greg,
> On placement my intuition tells me that if the clubhead is releasing from
> being loaded coming into impact I would want that clubhead to exhibit the
> same self centering effect that a shaft exhibits when tension is placed on
> it in a spinefinder. I guess that's spine at 9. Or is it??
Thanks
to all for the help. I think I'll try to sell him a new set of custom fit
irons!
Jack
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In a message dated 3/4/03 5:09:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks to all for the help. I think I'll try to sell him a new set of custom fit irons!
Jack
GIMME A BREAK! THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
pat,
That's some good info. I grew up in Atlanta but now live north of Nashville,
Tenn. That may be one
of the reasons I like the bounce of my original Eye2 SW. It has that
inverted wide sole that I like for
chipping but is great to hit open faced for 40-60yd pitch shots. I have
begun to prefer the
Greg,
Your a little backward in your analysis
What you would want is the shaft to be loaded in a plane where any effects of the
shaft itself (bend, spine, construction) do NOT cause the shaft to deviate from the
plane it's loaded in. Alan's demonstration shows that the shaft will unload in
The eye2 wedge v-sole was sooo far ahead if it's time Karsten was incredibly
gifted, and little things that he first did like this come up all the time in design
roundtables.
Pat K
>
> From: "Mark Linder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/03/04 Tue PM 05:11:38 EST
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTE
Alan:
Perhaps I might be the best to answer you because I set up the Dynacraft DSFI
back in 1991 with the able assistance there of Jeff Summit who did a ton of the
heavy lifting on the project – and I was also the one who created the
RSSR for Golfsmith and oversaw its modifications from th
John, a reamer will remove .03125 worth of material with out any trouble. A normal tapered tip head at it's smallest dim. is .354. So if you wanted to open it up to .375 it would do the job with ease. .354 + .03125 = .385 well w/in the alloted amount.
Now as to types and styles of re
Mac,
Not
exactly the same topic but close. have you noticed that Jones lifted his
right heel off the ground in his backswing. Dang near comes up on his toe. I
watched him on the golf channel one day and couldn't get the picture out of my
mind. Screwed me up even more t
Bernie,
Since you guys are discussing lightweight steel shafts,
have you heard anything pro/con about TT TX-90 shafts (p165, GS 2003
catalog).
Brian
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From: "Bernie Baymiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:06 AM
Subject:
Title: Drill Press fixture/was Reamers info from
RK
RK happens to make a serious drill press fixture...check it out
at http://www.clubmaker-online.com/rk.drillfix.html
John/shoptalk
John, a reamer will remove .03125 worth
of material with out any trouble. A normal tapered tip
head at it's smal
Let's see. We agree that the club face is parallel to the swing plane at
the start of the downswing and perpendicular to the swing plane at the
start of the back swing and at impact. There strike me as two extremes in
the ways you can do this. First is to not rotate your shoulders and simply
Hi Bernie,
Thanks for confirming what I thought I already knew was incorrect!
;-) x2.
Take care,
GregZ
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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RE: ShopTalk: H
Check out the new Apollo Spectre Lite iron shafts:
> A/L flex, 0.580 butt, 112 grams at 40 inch, 65-75 RSSR
> R/S flex, 0.600 butt, 112 grams at 42 inch, 70-80 RSSR
You might verify the spec's if you order any of these.
Thanks Harry S
www.Golf54.com
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It's sad when you respond to your own post, but it occurred to me that if
you can do the 90-degree shoulder thing so that there is minimal twist in
your wrists at the top of your backswing, by delaying your release (leaving
the club cocked well into the down swing) your wrists are forced to lag
In a message dated 3/4/2003 11:41:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi all,
Can anyone report on the characteristics of the Grafalloy Blue, which currently is available from GolfWorks at a VERY good price? I personally would be interested in a comparison of the Blue with a S
Allan,
Is it like talking to yourself???
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Harrison Spineless Technology
It's sad when you respond to your own post,
Purely a technical comment. Your wrists do not rotate. Your forearms
do. No biggie in this conversation though.
Al
At 11:14 PM 3/4/2003, you wrote:
It's sad when you respond to your own post, but it occurred to me that if
you can do the 90-degree shoulder thing so that there is minimal twist
In a message dated 3/4/2003 6:16:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bernie,
Since you guys are discussing lightweight steel shafts,
have you heard anything pro/con about TT TX-90 shafts (p165, GS 2003
catalog).
Brian
Hi Brian,
Im not Bernie but I have worked with these shaft
It's worse. It's like answering yourself. :-)
At 08:49 PM 3/4/03 -0800, you wrote:
Allan,
Is it like talking to yourself???
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