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Hi Mark
Your Wired reference has been on our minds: the problem with drafting
a patent is that you need to devot
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Hi Mark
Your Wired reference has been on our minds: the problem with drafting
a patent is that you need
Hi Chris
There are a lot of examples of poor patents. IP Australia's current
mission includes concentrating on quality.
Have a look at the current review on Patentable Subject Matter at
http://www.acip.gov.au/reviews.html#subject
As for the issue of inventive step ("non-obvious") it is current
Hi Mark
Your Wired reference has been on our minds: the problem with drafting
a patent is that you need to devote considerable time to it to get a
document that is worth submitting. This is one of the main reasons
why the majority of patent firms only concentrate on the big end of
town, since ty
One of the problems I often see with US software patents is that the
"non-obvious" step looks to be a bit of a joke, many seem completely
obvious to someone with any skill in the area. Perhaps a shorter time
frame would help ... or maybe different rules on what is obvious or not
for software a
ooops got a bit eager with the send button.. i was just writing that one of
the remedies could be decreasing the lifetime of a software patent (i cannot
talk about other industries/sectors) from 20 years to somehting less like 5
(id even go as far as saying 2 if not for the fear of being publicly
l
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Richard Heycock wrote:
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> Excerpts from 1_Place's message of Tue Nov 10 16:05:47 +1100 2009:
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> > My previous rant was after attending "Raising the awareness of
> > intellectual property amongst the business community" which stated:
> > "This forum will featur
Excerpts from 1_Place's message of Tue Nov 10 16:05:47 +1100 2009:
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> My previous rant was after attending "Raising the awareness of
> intellectual property amongst the business community" which stated:
> "This forum will feature three expert speakers providing their
> perspectives on the topic
My previous rant was after attending "Raising the awareness of
intellectual property amongst the business community" which stated:
"This forum will feature three expert speakers providing their
perspectives on the topic above"; however, no one seemed to think that
there was a problem with Patents
Thanks again
I will reply specifically to your thoughts a little later - I believe
there are many things wrong with the patent system at the moment
- however, the governors of the system do not hear the wisdom of the
crowds*:
I have just come back from a talk with with IP Australia and IPTA (the
Excerpts from 1_Place's message of Tue Nov 10 10:04:26 +1100 2009:
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> Thanks for your thoughts:
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> There is a lot is anger towards patents which I would very much like
> to unravel -
>
> I see the patent system as a library that has a standard process for
> recording information, for which an
I don't think there is anger against the ideals of the patent system.
But as someone who worked for a company that produces a lot of patents
(and have some in my name) the current reality of patents is as Elias
describes. It works roughly like the card game happy families* except
that you
Thanks for your thoughts:
There is a lot is anger towards patents which I would very much like
to unravel -
I see the patent system as a library that has a standard process for
recording information, for which anyone at anytime can take
information from that library - however, in approximately 8
Hi Elias,
I run a small Aussie "start-up", now into our seventh year. We do
SaaS for the facilities management industry. As a small company we
have some very large customers - Mirvac, Goodman, Spotless ... which
makes patent protection all the more important. (stops the internal
IT departments
In a word, low cost elawyering.
The Good Enough Revolution: When Cheap and Simple Is Just Fine
http://www.wired.com/gadgets/miscellaneous/magazine/17-09/ff_goodenough?currentPage=all
(Theres a bit about elawyering which may interest you). In a nutshell we're
moving away from high cost high qual
Elias,
Your rant is spot on. One more thing though. Yes a lot of cases get
thrown out due not meeting one or more of the patentability criterias (ie
useful, inventive step, novel, etc)... Problem is this is all ok for big
companies suing other big companies. It does not really help the smal
Software patents hurt the world. The big companies all have agreements
with each other where it's a "we won't sue you if you don't sue us" because
they all inevitably infringe on each others patents and the rapid innovation
occuring wouldn't happen without such agreements. All patents are doing are
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