On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:42 AM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 25 Nov 2008 9:10:07 am Charles Haynes wrote:
> From a Hindu viewpoint, conversion to Buddhism is safe because Buddhism does
> not seek to tell its followers that other resligions are wrong and other Gods
> are false. The re
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:42 PM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 25 Nov 2008 9:10:07 am Charles Haynes wrote:
>> How do you feel about the conversion of untouchables to Buddhism then?
>> Shouldn't that serve to help India preserve a sense of duty, integrity
>> and immunity to temptation
On 11/24/08, Srini Ramakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Tania Pérez Bustos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi A friend from Colombia who is coming to the FSFS.in in Trivandrum is
> doing research on creative commons and traditional music and would like to be
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Charles Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How do you feel about the conversion of untouchables to Buddhism then?
Ah Charles, had I known you were interested, I'd have introduced you
to some traditional** Buddhist monks, who try to avoid those who use
Budhism fo
On Tuesday 25 Nov 2008 9:10:07 am Charles Haynes wrote:
> > The difference between Brahminism and Buddhism (AFAICT) is the focus on
> > ritual in Brahminism, and the relegation of renouncement to a later stage
> > in life because duty demands certain obligations in earlier phases of
> > life.
>
> H
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:30 PM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The difference between Brahminism and Buddhism (AFAICT) is the focus on ritual
> in Brahminism, and the relegation of renouncement to a later stage in life
> because duty demands certain obligations in earlier phases of life.
How d
On Tuesday 25 Nov 2008 3:21:24 am Charles Haynes wrote:
> > The virtues of not being overly materialistic, and overly greedy are both
> > actively taught in Brahminical Hinduism ... It is not at all
> > clear to me that such things are actively taught as part of family
> > culture among non Brahmin
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:11 AM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The virtues of not being overly materialistic, and overly greedy are both
> actively taught in Brahminical Hinduism ... It is not at all
> clear to me that such things are actively taught as part of family culture
> among non Brahmin
On Sun, 2008-11-23 at 21:30 +0530, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
> Perhaps not, but at least there isn't a persecution of the intellectual as
> currently happens in India.
huh? didn't we just witness an election in the country where all the
brains drain (this terminology puzzled me; is america where
On Sun, 2008-11-23 at 21:02 +0530, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
> The specific symptom I'd like to call out here is the growing
> anti-intelligentsia feeling I encounter all over India. There was a time not
> too long ago when Indian politics, civil service and many other public
> fields included scho
On Monday 24 Nov 2008 8:00:51 pm ashok _ wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:11 PM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The virtues of not being overly materialistic, and overly greedy are both
> > actively taught in Brahminical Hinduism and actively practised by many
> > including some in my own fami
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:11 PM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The virtues of not being overly materialistic, and overly greedy are both
> actively taught in Brahminical Hinduism and actively practised by many
> including some in my own family and among my ancestors. It is not at all
> clear to m
On Monday 24 Nov 2008 12:22:33 pm Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
> Or perhaps materialism is like the fire
> water that destroyed the (other) Indians.
A good friend of mine, who happens to be Udhay's cousin made a statement that
I had not heard before when I met him a few days ago.
He lamented that
On Monday 24 Nov 2008 1:31:17 pm Charles Haynes wrote:
> Questioning virtue is not the same as accusing them of vice. More formally,
But accusing people of vice when one speaks of virtues is a subtle reminder
that one is not interested in talking about virtures but would rather harp
about the vi
On Monday 24 Nov 2008 12:38:22 pm Sumant Srivathsan wrote:
> I don't see how describing one group's qualities
> immediately implies a monopoly on these qualities,
I presume that you believe and fully subscribe to what you have stated above.
To rehash a point I made in another reply, I think Mus
On Monday 24 Nov 2008 12:22:33 pm Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
> > What we are getting is an arrogant, grabbing Hindu. No less intelligent
> > maybe - and India's predicted great power status will be achieved by
> > these people. Brahminism's virtues were never designed for leading a
> > nation into t
On Monday 24 Nov 2008 11:46:22 am Sumant Srivathsan wrote:
> Of course all Brahmins are
> not greedy and manipulative,
Exactly. Thank you for showing a glimmer of understanding. Brahmins should not
all be lumped together as bigots. That is all I am trying to say. That is my
sole objection.
The
On Monday 24 Nov 2008 12:34:17 pm ashok _ wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:23 PM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > especially Brahmins is the deep sense of
> > duty, integrity (incorruptibility) and immunity to temptation of material
> > (financial) recompense that Brahminism inculcates.
>
> I
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Tania Pérez Bustos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi A friend from Colombia who is coming to the FSFS.in in Trivandrum is doing
> research on creative commons and traditional music and would like to be in
> touch with people working on issues related to that. Can so
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Sumant Srivathsan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> Sure, everybody's lazy or stupid at some point, but one expects better.
> Maybe I asked for too much, or you're using a broken crutch to help you
> stand.
Can we please lay off the ad-hominem and name calling?
Hi A friend from Colombia who is coming to the FSFS.in in Trivandrum is doing
research on creative commons and traditional music and would like to be in
touch with people working on issues related to that. Can somebody give me a
hand?
Thanks
Tania
Tania Pérez Bustos
Estudiante Doctoral
Doctora
>
> When you make general statements describing qualities of a particular
> group.. and say that simply being from that group ' "inclucates" morality /
> honesty/ integrity...etc...'...what do you expect ? heck lets put a holy
> thread on everyone and make the world honest...
I expect that someo
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:41 AM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 24 Nov 2008 3:07:43 am Charles Haynes wrote:
>> Certainly that's the impression I got. Please correct me if I'm wrong,
>> but haven't Brahmins in the past been notorious for behaving exactly
>> opposite to their professed i
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