RE: CS>Warts

2000-08-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
" Variables don't, constants aren't !" I love it. Another superb one Chuck! James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [SMTP:cking...@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 5:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:

Re: CS>SINGING THE BLUES

2000-08-09 Thread M. G. Devour
Excellent work, Jeff! Far too many folks would be too intimidated to even attempt to research and refute the argyria claim. I'll be straightforward on the question. I don't know that a whole bunch of us aren't going to turn blue someday. It's no more *proven* that CS is perfectly safe than it

CS>The Truth thread...

2000-08-09 Thread M. G. Devour
Salman wrote: > It is good to be able to read about alternatives that work. > Unfortunately, there seems to be an abundance of letters that > discuss your God, and if that is what this list is all about, I > think that other Gods should be given equal time. Katie wrote: > ... although the spirit n

Re: CS>fungal infections

2000-08-09 Thread John Rigby
Ha Jim & folks, A special research group to which I belong is actually driven unscientifically nutz by "spontaneous" cures! However, the last 20 years of the program seem to dramatically point to the absolute need for a genuinely holistic approach which involves body and mind. Something as simple

Re: CS>Introduction [harbor freight]

2000-08-09 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 8/9/00 6:49:29 AM EST, coy...@alltel.net writes: << Subj: Re: CS>Introduction [harbor freight] Date: 8/9/00 6:49:29 AM EST From: coy...@alltel.net (Ode Wan Coyote) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com ## Harbor Freight now sells online as

CS>Introduction

2000-08-09 Thread Salman al-'Awdah
I have been, as you say, "lurking", and have been fascinated by the wonderful cures you have been able to report. I have always been skeptical of Western medicine and Western doctors. It is good to be able to read about alternatives that work. Unfortunately, there seems to be an abundance of let

RE: CS stimulates bacteria???

2000-08-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
You might consider directing the two doctors to Dr. Bart A. Flick, who may be contacted at the "Silverlon", i.e. Argentum Research web site. Dr. Flick, an Orthopedic surgeon, has been studying Ag for about 14 years. He says there is no bacteria that CS does not kill. James Osbourne Holmes a..

Re: CS>Introduction [harbor freight]

2000-08-09 Thread Ode Wan Coyote
## Harbor Freight now sells online as well as by catalog. A good company. I've used them for many years. Sometimes they have laser pointers on sale for as little as $5I prefer the AAA battery type over the button cell type as the batteries are much cheaper and longer lasting. Ken htt

Re: CS>More truth

2000-08-09 Thread bonnie schmidlkofer
Right on, KD'C! My sentiments exactly, but expressed better than I could have done Bonnie - Original Message - From: Ode Wan Coyote To: Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 12:01 PM Subject: Re: CS>More truth > No correction here. > > I heard a visiting preacher say to another TV

RE: CS>fungal infections

2000-08-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi John and all, I agree wholeheartedly with your commentary. The universe tries to create for us what we intend. I think that was the intent of our creator. Our thoughts, sooner or later will manifest in the third dimension. I believe that there has been a long-time effort by hidden forces

Re: CS>Standardization

2000-08-09 Thread Carol Webb
Dear Bob, Thanks for that information. I'm not quite sure what you are saying though. I had been told that CS 'had' to display TE, or you didn't have a colloid. I need help with this one. Did you send Flemming story? Blessings Carol -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of coll

Re: CS>Introduction

2000-08-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
Salman al-'Awdah wrote: > Unfortunately, > there seems to be an abundance of letters that discuss > your God, and if that is what this list is all about, > I think that other Gods should be given equal time. Same God, different name. A rose is a rose by any other name. Don't get tripped up by t

CS>Religion

2000-08-09 Thread Robert L. Berger
Mike; Do your job. I have taught bible 45 years and am one of those "funnymentalist" that believe it, write about it, and try to live it. This list is no place for such a controversial subject. A person convinced against his will is of the same opinion still. -- The silver-list is a moderated

Re: CS>SINGING THE BLUES

2000-08-09 Thread Carol Webb
Hello Mike, Fortunately I hadn't heard of Argyria before learning about CS. But if I had I wouldn't have felt safe enough to confide in our M.D. Your mail answers the questions which are posed by seeing companies offering high ppm CS as if it is an advantage. We were actually trying to work o

Re: CS>hiv

2000-08-09 Thread Katie Jay
James, More discussion about Beck's blood electrification (HIV mentioned). Katie: << Do you know of anyone with an auto-immune disease who has used these devices? >> Here is the information I have from various web sites regarding the pulser: They discovered that passing very small amounts of el

Re: CS>hiv

2000-08-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
Katie Jay wrote: > Clarkâ?Ts "syncro zap" > running at her standard 30 khz (considered many octaves too high to be > effective) > actually measures only ~2.6V peak to peak under load (~2000 ohms) at palms. > This is an order of magnitude too low to have any real effect beyond > placebo. The Clark

Re: CS>More truth

2000-08-09 Thread Ode Wan Coyote
No correction here. I heard a visiting preacher say to another TV preacher, "We move in the mind of God". The other preacher tried to distort this simple literal statement of fact into a guilt/power trip by saying, You mean that once we accept Jesus as our saviour, THEN we move in the mind

Re: CS>SINGING THE BLUES

2000-08-09 Thread Henry Reed
Mr. Devour, my compliments on an excellent summary of the situation!! pj "M. G. Devour" wrote: > > Excellent work, Jeff! > > Far too many folks would be too intimidated to even attempt to > research and refute the argyria claim. > > I'll be straightforward on the question. I don't know that a

Re: CS>More truth

2000-08-09 Thread Ode Wan Coyote
It means that mind is not the product of brain, that brain is the product of mind and the location and identity of mind has been reversed, therefore, nearly all points of view have become skewed...and it was done on purpose for a purpose by mind. A really neat and effective trick. Yes, anyo

CS>Re:Silver

2000-08-09 Thread Harsha Godavari
Hi Bob: Received the Silver wire yesterday. Thank you very much> Now I have no excuse to delay making the elixir any longer . Any last minute hints :-) Regards Harsha Godavari -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or sil

Re: CS>Re:Silver

2000-08-09 Thread Harsha Godavari
Sorry for the PEM that got away. Regards harsha godavari -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subs

Re: CS>The Truth Hurts

2000-08-09 Thread Ode Wan Coyote
The point is that spirit does not need healing. What is needed is closer contact with spirits purpose. Then, miracles will begin to be recognized instead of being told what they 'should' look like and conflicts resolve. Then healing of the body. However, agreed that this is an off topic thr

Re: CS>Introduction [harbor freight]

2000-08-09 Thread Ode Wan Coyote
Yes, lasers can be had in various wave lengths but not as laser pointers. As far as I know, the red laser diode is the only frequency available in a pointer. ken At 08:24 AM 8/9/00 -0400, you wrote: In a message dated 8/9/00 6:49:29 AM EST, coy...@alltel.net writes: << Subj: Re: CS>Intr

Re: CS>Introduction

2000-08-09 Thread Ode Wan Coyote
Same idea, different name and approach. No conflict. KD'C At 05:52 AM 8/9/00 -0700, you wrote: I have been, as you say, "lurking", and have been fascinated by the wonderful cures you have been able to report. I have always been skeptical of Western medicine and Western doctors. It is good

CS>Interesting but off topic

2000-08-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ancient highly technological objects found that are 20,000 to 318,000 years old. http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/streams/science/russcrew.html Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail messa

Re: CS>Introduction [harbor freight]

2000-08-09 Thread blue_eyes
Hi Folks, I just checked the Mouser Electronics catalogue (on compact disk) and found "regular" LEDs that are blue (430nm), green (565nm), yellow (585nm) and red (660nm). We could be on to something here. David rogalt...@aol.com wrote: >Snip< > I was wondering if anyone knew

Re: CS>Standardization

2000-08-09 Thread Robert L. Berger
Hello Carol; I did not send the Flemming story it probaby was the just plain "Bob". That is why I use "Ole Bob". As for T.E., the presence of a T.E. is the assurance of a colloid for the beginner in the art of CS brewing. When one knows what ppm is being made then the job is to refine the proce

Re: CS>Re:Silver

2000-08-09 Thread Robert L. Berger
Hi Harsha; Just document everything you do so that you do not cover ther same ground twice. "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- sil

Re: CS>Introduction [harbor freight]

2000-08-09 Thread Robert L. Berger
Hi Blue eyes; One needs laser diodes for this purpose and they come in 635 to 685 nanometers which is in the IR zone. NEC manufacture on page 54 of Mouser cat. I t might be possilbe to rig up a set of optics to focus the beam from a standard diode but it wont be simple. So the hunt is still on

Re: CS>Silver wire

2000-08-09 Thread Marsha Hallett
> Marsha, > Sure enjoy your comentary!! May I purchase wire from you? > Thank you. > Janet Dear Janet, Thanks! My wire supply is gone, and as I`m getting ready to move to Utah in a few weeks, I don`t think I`ll get a new order until I get there. I hope someone else on the list can help! Sorry...

RE: CS>Interesting but off topic

2000-08-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Like I keep saying; most history is a complete fraud. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 11:13 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CS>Interesting but off topic A

Re: CS>Introduction [harbor freight]

2000-08-09 Thread Gaston
blue_eyes If this would give us a more accurate size of particles and give us a reference of how strong the CS is, I definitely would have an interest in the proposition, and probably many other readers would also have. However, I am not certain at this stage that the proposition would do that, un

Re: CS>Introduction

2000-08-09 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Salman, On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 05:52:13 -0700 (PDT), "Salman al-'Awdah" wrote: >I have been, as you say, "lurking", and have been >fascinated by the wonderful cures you have been able >to report. I have always been skeptical of Western >medicine and Western doctors. It is good to be able >to re

Re: CS>fungal infections

2000-08-09 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi John, On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 22:18:27 +1000, "John Rigby" wrote: > We primarily work with the Big C as it is the most feared and rapidly >becoming most common affliction. 848 fully documented medically >prognosticated terminal cases - including yours truly, without a single >loss. Whoa!! Is the

Re: CS>hiv

2000-08-09 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Marshall, On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:00:29 -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote: >The Clark Zapper runs approximately 9V peak to peak, not 2.6 Volts open >circuit. Once attached it may be 2.6 volts, but that is due to the current >limiting and the loading by the body to limit it to the maximum of 10 mA.

Re: CS>hiv

2000-08-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
"Dean T. Miller" wrote: > Hi Marshall, > > >I am > >pretty sure the Beck unit also limits to 10 Ma, so it would in effect have > >the > >same voltage as the Clark unit when attached. > > I wish that were true, but it's not. The beck unit (the DC blood > electrifier) uses 30 to 35 volts across th

Re: CS>hiv

2000-08-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
OK, I just pulled out my scope and took some measurements with the clark zapper. First I looked at the schematic in the book, and it shows a 1 K resistor for R3. So 9 volts on 1k would be 9 mA short circuit. See previous postings of this schematic by me to this group to verify if you like. When I

RE: CS>hiv

2000-08-09 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Marshall, " I still say that the Clark Zapper and Beck units both work." Any comment on Croft? [Putting aside the orgone bit] Thanks in advance. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Wednesday, Augu

Re: CS>Introduction

2000-08-09 Thread aKa Jhon
Allah is Arab for YHVH in Hebrew,,Jehovah and Lord in English and whatever in other tongues..same GOD,, imho - Original Message - From: "Salman al-'Awdah" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 8:52 AM Subject: CS>Introduction | | I have been, as you say, "lurking", and have been | fascin

Re: CS>Introduction [harbor freight]

2000-08-09 Thread blue_eyes
Hi "Ole Bob", Yes, I understand the need for a nice coherent beam if a person is going to eyeball it for the Tyndall effect. I was thinking more along the lines of having red,green and blue LEDs on one side of the cell and light sensors on the other side to measure the light transmission changes

CS>Jaguar Enterprises

2000-08-09 Thread DotsieBoo
I just received this from Michael Forrest from Jaguar Enterprises if anyone is interested. Hello there The federal trade commission is trying to bust Jaguar Enterprises for "unfair and deceptive acts or practices in violation of sections 5 and 12 of the FTC Act". They have requested many things, a

Re: CS>Introduction [harbor freight]

2000-08-09 Thread John Kolb
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, blue_eyes wrote: > I just checked the Mouser Electronics catalogue (on compact disk) > and found "regular" LEDs that are blue (430nm), green (565nm), > yellow (585nm) and red (660nm). Of course, these put out a beam of light anywhere from 36 to 120 degrees wide, not the 1/2" c

CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V100 #593

2000-08-09 Thread HelenW8262
In a message dated 8/9/00 8:09:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: << your God, and if that is what this list is all about, I think that other Gods should be given equal time. Allah is the Arabian Supreme Being, "El" or the Hebrew "Eli". He is the Creat

CS>Immunization OT

2000-08-09 Thread DeathBH
Ok List; Re: Immunization OT it appears to be a victory; when I handed the school the forms today... they didn't even challenge me. seems others may have already challenged my local system.. they appeared familiar with the forms. End of story for now. Jeannine -- The silver-list is a mo

Re: CS>Introduction [harbor freight]

2000-08-09 Thread Carol Webb
I just wanted to tell someone: we have a beautiful T.E. in our CS. We used an ordinary flashlight, but in the dark, which I hadn't done before. On 9 Aug 2000, at 16:37, blue_eyes wrote: > Yes, I understand the need for a nice > coherent beam if a person is going to eyeball > it for the Tyndall

Re: CS>Introduction [harbor freight]

2000-08-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
One must not confuse the tyndall with the absorption curve for CS. They tyndall drops off rapidly with decreasing particle size, and with increasing wavelength. Thus a blue beam will show a great deal more tyndall than a red beam (that is why the sky and skim milk appear blue). But I think the

CS>cancer

2000-08-09 Thread Fernwoods
In a message dated 08/09/2000 6:44:02 AM Romance Daylight Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: << I am very interested in Beck's 4 point protocol for cancer (and other diseases). I am going to try to cure my lyme with it. The protocol is as follows: 1. Blood electrification 2. C

CS>C/S TESTING " CANADIAN SOURCE "

2000-08-09 Thread GRANT MCKENZIE
Still looking for a " Canadian " source of lab testing for c/s.. Find it hard to believe there were no Canadian responses last time.??? Grant.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To joi

Re: CS>C/S TESTING " CANADIAN SOURCE "

2000-08-09 Thread Robert L. Berger
Grant; There is no real customs problem. Just label it as a gift. I have done other Canadian CS testing. "Ole Bob: -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.

CS>Speaking of salts and such

2000-08-09 Thread Tim Eastman
Hi folks. I know we have had discussion of salts here quite recently but I paid it no mind until some friends of mine gave me some instructions for making a generator and the ensuing recipe for CS. I have two questions; 1.) the 'recipe' calls for a 1/4 tsp of SEA salt (no table salt) for an 8oz

CS>Retinal Degeneration

2000-08-09 Thread Robert L. Berger
Hi Ya'all; Last week someone asked about macular degeneration. It took a while but I found the article by Dr David C. Williams in his "Alternatives" issue Vol.8, No.12 June 2000 and it refered me back to issueVol.8,No.9 March 2000. They use the fancy name of "TENS" Transcutaneous Electrical Ner

Re: CS>Speaking of salts and such

2000-08-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
Tim Eastman wrote: > Hi folks. > > I know we have had discussion of salts here quite recently but I paid it no > mind until some friends of mine gave me some instructions for making a > generator and the ensuing recipe for CS. > > I have two questions; > 1.) the 'recipe' calls for a 1/4 tsp of SE

Re: CS>Immunization OT

2000-08-09 Thread John Rigby
Hello Jeannine & folks, My hat off to you Jeannine! You are a brave person. Being right is beside the point. You are challenging a massive system. Congratulations. For what it is worth: As a statistician I can say that there is absolutely no empirical evidence for the efficacy of vaccination at

Re: CS>Speaking of salts and such

2000-08-09 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Tim, On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 23:01:52 -0400, "Tim Eastman" wrote: >I have two questions; >1.) the 'recipe' calls for a 1/4 tsp of SEA salt (no table salt) NO!!! NO SALT! Even though pure water isn't supposed to conduct -- it does. (Water is funny in many different ways that don't follow the r

Re: CS>Retinal Degeneration

2000-08-09 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Ole Bob, On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 22:02:48 -0500, "Robert L. Berger" wrote: >Dr Merrill Allen reports retinal regeneration. His protocol is one >electrode in the hand and the other on an eye lid pad. The procedure is >2.5 min on the upper lid and 2.5 min on the lower lid. Upper and lower lids? U

Re: CS>Retinal Degeneration

2000-08-09 Thread Janet Lubart
Would the Beck unit be considered a glorified TENS unit also? Would this type of unit increase circulation to the eye area or kill parasites that are causing problems in the area? I did wear the TENS unit after back surgery for pain control and always had extra energy when it was attached to my