Well, what I might do is send her the information about the mag dioxide
in carbonated water, and let her have the recipes for different
flavours, the coke taste-alike, if I remember correctly, being tamarind
paste, which I happen to have. Made harder by the fact that she has
just moved, so I
Mike:
I'm sick of listening to third grade attacks by jerks on friends and I will
defend them. I don't care what anyone else says on the list - they're
mostly just chit-chatters and most don't have evidence of anything other
than what they've read. brooks has good info - real info. I belong to
John
You're sick of listening to people on this list. You don't care what they
say. They have no evidence of anything and the list is not well moderated.
Wow - why on earth are you still here? If I felt that about any list I was
on, I'd just quietly take myself off it and go and find somewhre
Its a long time since we last had a troll. Seems we have forgotten how to
deal with it.
Ignore it.
It will get bored and disappear.
OK,
Tony
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I meant type 2 dee
On 22 Feb 2010, at 18:51, Dan Nave wrote:
Type 11 diabetes! That's bad
Dan
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:
I have a friend like this Rowena, but she will not listen to me. She has
type 11 diabetes and is on BP
I've given up with her Marshall - she thinks if they are 'allowed' to sell it
then it must be allright! dee
On 22 Feb 2010, at 19:48, Marshall Dudley wrote:
Get her to at least switch to the diet coke with splenda. It isn't good, but
at least it is not as deadly as their main diet coke.
I think the emails have gotten a bit mixed up here carol, but I'm so glad she
is so much better! dee
On 22 Feb 2010, at 20:49, carolG wrote:
Awesome Dee.
Dog doing fabulous!!! Still scratching a little bit but nothing like
before..her hair is coming nicely...not seeing hardly any raw
Most on this group prefer the EIS (electronically isolated silver) commonly
known as colloidal silver (CS) ours is a mixture of both and consists of
mainly ionic with some colloidal. I have a SilverPuppy which I love--this
makes clear EIS and is cheap and easy to use. You can use it manually
Yes I did Google it but quite frankly, I didn't understand the differences. Do
you know about nascent iodine, which is the one I have? I used to have Iodoral
but found it too expensive. dee
On 22 Feb 2010, at 21:21, Craig Chamberlin wrote:
Hi Dee,
Did you google SSKI?
SSKI is a
Cool! Thanks Mike for the info--I do like to know *why* things happen when
they happen lol dee
On 22 Feb 2010, at 16:55, M. G. Devour wrote:
Dear Dee,
I got a strange email from Medwith J Robert with something about
caveats, which started doing a 'loading' thingy so I deleted it. Has
Well, it's still being sold here in the UK Mike. dee
On 22 Feb 2010, at 16:57, M. G. Devour wrote:
John, David, Ken, and others...
So, is it true that CS is actually BANNED, and no longer being sold in
Europe, or is it only that some labelling requirements have been
changed?
Answer
Calm down Neville--you'll do yourself a mischief lol! dee
On 22 Feb 2010, at 22:47, Neville Munn wrote:
Excuse my butting in but the only way to *determine* anything with your EIS
is laboratory analysis. If you've got a pocket full of money and are willing
to get *several* samples
Actually I've used that with DMSO on hubby and it worked really well! dee
On 23 Feb 2010, at 00:27, Christina Mattson wrote:
Hi all, I hope this isn't rude but My Red LED unit came with a handy
Acupressure book which also explains about the technology of the LED for
healing. Normal healthy
Well done David, top marks for observation! dee
On 23 Feb 2010, at 00:39, Alchemysa wrote:
Hello Mike
You asked...
So, is it true that CS is actually BANNED, and no longer being sold in
Europe, or is it only that some labelling requirements have been
changed?
Answer that, please?
So excited to join aboutclay.com yahoo group. Click link below and hit
discussion.
Much easier to manage there for sure.
Here are a few more stories on hair growth with bentonite
http://www.aboutclay.com/testimonials.htm#Hair%20Care
Hoping we get this group over to yahoo as well.
LOL...Yeah, I think I got up too early this morning, good thing I didn't get my
hand slapped I spose from...'You Know Who'. g
N.
Subject: Re: CSConfusion Making CS
From: d...@deetroy.org
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:18:32 +
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Calm down Neville--you'll do
Hi list,
I read ...
normal healthy cells OMIT wavelengths between is this statement OK?
Frank ND
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Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:21 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRE: LED info and
If I can digress for a moment John.
[...most don't have evidence of anything other than what they've read.]
-Seeing as you mentioned this, have you got any evidence concerning colour
change in people thru the use of EIS? other than maybe what you've read, or
heard praps. I believe I asked
I use high voltage DC, not AC. And only to kick start the process. I very
quickly reduce the voltage as the silver ions start building up, to limit the
current.
Dick
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From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010
I thought 'liver/age' spots were caused by lack of selenium and sun damage? dee
On 23 Feb 2010, at 04:20, Renee wrote:
Well dang--I've got grey hair--symptom of not enough copper, and a couple
liver spots on my right hand, a symptom of too much copper. What's a lady to
do?? ;-)
Hopefully, Tony! dee
On 23 Feb 2010, at 11:03, Tony Moody wrote:
Its a long time since we last had a troll. Seems we have forgotten how to
deal with it.
Ignore it.
It will get bored and disappear.
OK,
Tony
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You might consider adaptogens like Fo Ti (Ho Shu Wu) which can
supposedly turn hair back to natural color, or retard getting grey.
Nancy
On 23 Feb 2010, at 04:20, Renee wrote:
Well dang--I've got grey hair--symptom of not enough copper, and a couple liver
spots on my right hand, a
Nah, liver and age spots are due to--liver toxicity. I was just writing
that about copper because the previous post said it was due to too much
copper, and I'd posted that I heard that traveling doctor say grey hair was
due to not enough copper. And since I had both--grey hair and liver
Resending:
I don't consider you butting in at all Neville. I really do appreciate
you taking the time to give me your thoughts and direction because
everything I've learned so far has been from dozens of hours or
researching dozens of sites and trying to piece it all together. So I'm
william heene wrote:
Afternoon...I am new to the group and looking to buy a CS mach., at
this point I am confused about which is more effective, ionic or
particle.
For what? The ionic part is best for some things, such as burns, and
the particulate is better for others such as killing
Sorry, I was having some fun with the words. Actually silver carbonate
is highly soluble, and thus will really look like pure water, but will
of course be a compound which is more likely to cause argyria.
Marshall
Deborah Gerard wrote:
Hi Marshall...what does bubble trouble carbonate
Dear Jonathan
Thank you. I will look further into this. Blessings Karen Conrad
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From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: CSDiabetes Question
I once read that MDs using
John E. Stevens wrote:
Mike:
I'm sick of listening to third grade attacks by jerks on friends and I
will defend them. I don't care what anyone else says on the list -
they're mostly just chit-chatters and most don't have evidence of
anything other than what they've read.
That is not true.
Have her look at dorway.com
Even the FDA has a list of problems it can cause, including death if I
remember right.
Marshall
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
I've given up with her Marshall - she thinks if they are 'allowed' to sell it
then it must be allright! dee
On 22 Feb 2010, at 19:48,
I produced HVAC CS for about 6 years before switching to LVDC. With my
setup I was unable to exceed more than about 7 to 8 ppm before the
particles stated becoming objectionably large, and even at 5 it produced
a yellow instead of a clear EIS. It was a real hassle, requiring a 1
1/2 ton
I would think it is a typo for emit.
R
On 23/02/2010 11:37 PM, Frank wrote:
Hi list,
I read ...
normal healthy cells OMIT wavelengths between is this statement
OK?
Frank ND
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Sent: Tuesday,
I've heard about that herb before. I wonder if it's true. Just one more
thing to experiment with. Sigh
Samala,
Renee
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You might consider adaptogens like Fo Ti (Ho Shu Wu) which can
supposedly turn hair back to natural color, or retard getting grey.
NO CS generator using electricity and water does anything BUT produce Ions.
Ions only come in one size.. WAY small. One atom minus one electron. Any
smaller and the Silver would no longer be Silver.
Particles come later depending on conditions in the brew container
and how fast ions
When the facts don't add up and everyone refuses to fly off the handle and
start screaming inanities?
OK Almost to the point of thumping a Bible.
Sorry. Not your flock.
Ode
At 04:56 AM 2/23/2010 -0500, you wrote:
Mike:
I'm sick of listening to third grade attacks by jerks on friends
## You can make EIS well beyond 20 PPM, however, having it look like
something you'd let your dog drink is another matter.
I've found that around 30 us [or PPM ionic] is about the limit, but Ionic
isn't all that there is and it can take a fair a amount of time for ions to
crystallize out of
That's OK...I've never been in charge of ears.
They always seem to belong to other people, who also aren't in charge of
them most of the time.
I reckon we humans mostly just hear echoes and see reflections, set them
outside and feed them like a stray cat to kick around when it's
The best wrong tool we have is a conductivity meter.
It's doesn't actually measure silver, but gets you a pretty good guess and
a good guess is all that's needed.
To actually measure the silver takes an Atomic Absorption
Spectrophotometer [ tens of thousands of bucks and an eddication to
Doing quantitative analysis for silver compounds is really rather easy,
if you have much silver present. The biggest problem is that at 5-20
ppm, the quantities are so small, that getting a good weight on them is
difficult. It can be done though with a good balance, forget a postage
scale.
Thanks Ode. I've thought about taking, not so much colloidal copper as
ormus copper. But as I said, it's not a priority and I haven't done it yet,
even years after hearing the (almost) dead doctor lecture. So it may be
years before I bother with it. I'm just simply always curious, and store
Isn't that dead doctor guy dead yet?
He was a glacier water ' ground up rock' MLM salesman.
You can't go by what salesmen say, even if partly true, every person is
unique and extremely complicated.
[ OK..so this guy drank glacier melt water and lived for 140 years, but he
can't count
Hmm...my husband is as regular as clock-work at least twice a day and has loads
of 'liver' spots, whereas I can go for days without 'going' and have none! dee
On 23 Feb 2010, at 14:26, Renee wrote:
Nah, liver and age spots are due to--liver toxicity. I was just writing that
about copper
Ode Coyote wrote:
The best wrong tool we have is a conductivity meter.
It's doesn't actually measure silver, but gets you a pretty good guess
and a good guess is all that's needed.
To actually measure the silver takes an Atomic Absorption
Spectrophotometer [ tens of thousands of bucks
At 08:53 PM 2/22/2010, you wrote:
[...could be another reason I have blue moons,...]
-They're slowly being eliminated one by one by the looks of it,
that's two down in as many weeks, if I stick around long enough I
believe I'll get a 'hat trick' g.
This appears to throw some *doubt?* on yet
Thanks for this Marshall. dee
On 23 Feb 2010, at 15:51, Marshall Dudley wrote:
Have her look at dorway.com
Even the FDA has a list of problems it can cause, including death if I
remember right.
Marshall
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No, it's not the going to the bathroom that has anything to do with liver
spots--it's an overloaded liver that makes them show up in the skin. So a
liver cleanse is needed. But a person should be going to the bathroom
regularly BEFORE a liver cleanse is started, to make sure the toxins from
the
With all your castigations of people being fooled by commercial
marketing hype, and so forth and being thought slaves to those whom
you consider naive, I really don't understand your attitude towards
Barwick, you appear to be totally brainwashed by and about him.
Exactly the same
At 04:03 AM 2/23/2010, you wrote:
Its a long time since we last had a troll. Seems we have forgotten how to
deal with it.
Ignore it.
It will get bored and disappear.
Tony,
Thanks for the call to sanity. I hear you, a bit too late, LOL.
sol
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At 04:48 AM 2/23/2010, you wrote:
I've given up with her Marshall - she thinks if they are 'allowed'
to sell it then it must be allright! dee
If you mean diet sodas with aspartame, I have to say it doesn't
bother me. People who are sensitive to it should not use it, but then
that applies to
At 05:29 AM 2/23/2010, you wrote:
LOL...Yeah, I think I got up too early this morning, good thing I
didn't get my hand slapped I spose from...'You Know Who'. g
N.
You mean, He who must be obeyed?
sol
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At 06:14 AM 2/23/2010, you wrote:
I thought 'liver/age' spots were caused by lack of selenium and sun
damage? dee
Well, mine have never faded like this before, it IS winter and they
may darken again in the summer, but they used to remain quite dark
year round, though admittedly darker in
Marshall,
For some reason your posts are so truncated that I only get short
bits of them in the message window, and so can't make heads or tails
of them. Deciding to ask you about that, when I reply your entire
email text appears in the reply text composition window.
Any idea what is going
Thanks Samala. dee
On 23 Feb 2010, at 17:21, Renee wrote:
No, it's not the going to the bathroom that has anything to do with liver
spots--it's an overloaded liver that makes them show up in the skin. So a
liver cleanse is needed. But a person should be going to the bathroom
regularly
Ooh, I've done it again! I mean thanks Renee! dee
On 23 Feb 2010, at 17:21, Renee wrote:
No, it's not the going to the bathroom that has anything to do with liver
spots--it's an overloaded liver that makes them show up in the skin. So a
liver cleanse is needed. But a person should be
But aspartame is a known neurotoxin (exitotoxin) sol, and has also been cited
as causing cancer among other things. I believe it is on the agenda of the FDA
at the moment as so many have called for a ban on it. It was banned for many
years until Reagan got into power and then it was allowed,
sol wrote:
At 04:48 AM 2/23/2010, you wrote:
I've given up with her Marshall - she thinks if they are 'allowed' to
sell it then it must be allright! dee
If you mean diet sodas with aspartame, I have to say it doesn't bother
me. People who are sensitive to it should not use it, but then that
Hi Dee,
No I do not.
Kind regards,
Craig
Yes I did Google it but quite frankly, I didn't understand the differences. Do
you know about nascent iodine, which is the one I have? I used to have Iodoral
but found it too expensive. dee
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Hi all, yes it's a typo, perhaps my dyslexia..
Like i said before Oops sorry
Tina.
--- On Tue, 2/23/10, Rowena new...@internode.on.net wrote:
From: Rowena new...@internode.on.net
Subject: Re: CSRE: LED info and Laser VS Red LED - emit
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, February 23,
Yeah, but now you can nyana-nyana your husband because you don't need the
liver cleanse. :-)
Samala,
Renee
---Original Message---
Ooh, I've done it again! I mean thanks Renee! dee
Well, I'm sorry to tell you but MY personal experience is that I feel
the same whether having some or being off it completely for years at
a time. I just feel no adverse effects from it. It was one of the
first things I looked at given my known health issues.
If removing something for several
Just looked at the iodine4health.com site again, and it does endorse the
nascent iodine that I am taking. dee
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Hi Linda, i made a typo, i typed normal healthy cells Omit and i meant Emit.
Big difference, i apologize for that.
Oh, did i mention that my little mini light strand cost under seven dollars,
not including batteries of course.
Tina
--- On Mon, 2/22/10, linda...@att.net linda...@att.net wrote:
I think the thing with this type of product is that you wouldn't necessarily
notice anything happening at all, until it was too late. However, as long as
people are aware of the danger and can make an informed choice, then that is of
course, their prerogative. dee
On 23 Feb 2010, at 19:03,
Try turning on wrap long lines.
Marshall
sol wrote:
Marshall,
For some reason your posts are so truncated that I only get short
bits of them in the message window, and so can't make heads or tails
of them. Deciding to ask you about that, when I reply your entire
email text appears in the
Sol writes:
Meantime, I try to not use too much of any sweetener, but I don't have
any fear of a bit of aspartame now and then. sol
I think this is the ultimate secret to Sol's success!
Most of the incidents of people having real bad outcomes with such
products seem to be linked with major
Hi Bob, I also had this dilemma a while back. I ended up going with what you
call ionic (which i call CS but an going to change to EIS) Anyway, Maybe you
could purchase some Particulate silver solution and some Ionic and compare the
two. I have not tried the Particulate type.
One thing i know
Against my better judgment, I am putting in my 2 cents on this subject.
Some may want to criticize me as being a list cop but I am not and
don't care to be. But as a member of the list, I am entitled to express
my opinions too.
I really don't see Steve Barwick as much different than Mercola,
Hi folks,
I've been asked if I'd post a reminder on a couple if list etiquette
items that are being neglected lately. I agree that it's appropriate.
Trimming text:
When you hit reply and then type a few lines of text at the top, please
realize that the WHOLE POST you're responding to is
Hello again bob, i was in a hurry and for got to mention that i have read
literature about Particulate vs Ionic and here's what i came up with. In my
case i was specifically interested in knowing which of the two presented a
greater (if any) risk of Argyria.
One said that it's the type with
John,
You write:
I'm sick of listening to third grade attacks by jerks on friends and I
will defend them.
I do not care if Steven Barwick is your closest personal friend. You
may not attack other members here for expressing reasonable objections
to your friend's activities when they are
Hello group...made up my mind, though still don't quit understand it all as of
yet. Gonna go with the SilverPuppy! Thanks Louise, Tina, Marshall and Ode for
your input. Bob
--- On Tue, 2/23/10, Christina Mattson tinamatt...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Christina Mattson
During a recently-past exploratory
investigation on the effectiveness of life-extension via restricted
caloric intake, we came across some work which greatly excited our
interest.
Our investigations had been centered upon Sir2 (a member of the
sirtuin family of
I don't find any way to do that. And I did find a couple of other
messages than yours that do the same thing, but it no longer matters
now that I know how to expand them.
thanks anyway,
sol
At 12:25 PM 2/23/2010, you wrote:
Try turning on wrap long lines.
Marshall
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SILVER BANNED! That's hype.
Mike. Its worse than hype. Barwick has probably cost people their
jobs. Can you imagine what this has done to colloidal silver sales
around the world, particularly in Europe? In his greedy rush to panic
people into buying his 2nd rate machine he's done
Here's an article that explains the relationships:
http://www.sensorex.com/support/education/conductivity_education.html
Of course it depends on many variables, like temperature, electrode distance
and surface area, AC vs DC, etc...
Dick
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Tom,
What you say here seems very consistant with my results while taking MMS.
Dan
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:57 PM, poast po...@prodigy.net wrote:
Hello Renee,
100 pounds of sodium chlorite will keep you going for quite awhile.
However, there are thousands of uses for it, so it may not
David,
Well, this whole thing is one reason the list rules say:
Brief heads-up messages about legislation, regulation, or politics of
relevance to Colloidal Silver or *important* alternative health issues
may be posted *occasionally*, with follow-up to be taken off list.
I think I've
We gotta get rid of those archives
MA
From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 2:55:36 PM
Subject: RE: CSBarwick's BS about CS.
Now that we have archives, remember that what you post
Hello Marshall,
Is is possible to weigh the anode before and after and get an idea of how
much is in the solution?
Once again we are looking at very small measurements, but if you did several
batches between weighing, you may get an agerage.
The may be opptimistic, but could give a ballpark
We gotta get rid of those archives
MA
gravelly voice Use smilies when ya say that, missus!!!
grin
Mike D.
From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com
Now that we have archives, remember that what you post will be there for
a long time. And
Dear Mr. Bradley,
Thank you very much for your interesting post on Sir2 and Resveratrol. I
have been buying Resveratrol in powder form from RevGenetics for some time,
mainly because it seems to be the cheapest. I will definitely investigate
Sir2 as per your advice.
I want to thank you for your
Hello Tony,
My first priority is to brew batches with consistent conductivity. Once I
get that down reasonably well, I will move on to explore the relationship
between conductivity and PPM.
Ode warns that my first goal may be futile, but I may be able to get it down
to a range. Marshall has
Tom, I passed your great information on to the MMS list. A couple people
had a few questions they asked me to pass on, when you have time to answer.
TIA, Renee
1) what type of C, and how much did you use, to activate the sodium
chlorite? Since we've always been told that C DEactivated MMS,
You're very welcome. Since this is of interest, I'll add what I
recall: the work was done in South America -- Brazil perhaps -- and
claimed that after the therapy, the Islets of Langerhans in the
pancreas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islets_of_Langerhans) were
restored, and produced
I've been wondering about this for quite some time, having read on this
list that ppm is really a measure of weight, not parts or
particles. I'll add a layman's question: is there any scale on
earth that could measure the difference in weight just by putting one's
EIS jar on the scale
Thanks very much for this suggestion.
After a recent weekend I found nearly 400 messages in the Silver List
folder, and was frustrated that so many were one-liners of the kind you
mention below -- more than half, I think. My feeling is that thanks
messages would be appropriate only when the
For years I have used Zinc Oxide powder, mixed with enough water to make a
paste and smeared on. Works great. Recommended by Hulda Clark.
Leo
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From: Ode Coyote
To:
This isn't exactly what I recall, but may be useful:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/
article1637528.ece
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LOL -- didn't you see the great big grin smiley that I sent with it? On one of
my lists they offer an unusual variety of smilies -- which includes one which
is rolling on the floor, laughing and pounding the floor with skinny arms. We
need that one! :-D
MA
I seriously doubt putting the whole kit and kaboodle on a scale would be
anywhere near accurate enough.
Get a set of scales that read down to 0.something of a gram, or carat and weigh
the electrode itself. I got a set of these scales years ago to do exactly what
you're talking about, but
LOL -- didn't you see the great big grin smiley that I sent with it?
Oh. I keep my mailer configured to show me only the plain text.
sigh
On one of my lists they offer an unusual variety of smilies -- which
includes one which is rolling on the floor, laughing and pounding the
floor with
Neville wrote:
I seriously doubt putting the whole kit and kaboodle on a scale would
be anywhere near accurate enough.
I recall thinking about this years ago...
If you made a liter of CS at 20 ppm, that would be 20 milligrams of
silver.
Now, can we measure a change of 20 milligrams on a 4
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
David,
Well, this whole thing is one reason the list rules say:
Brief heads-up messages about legislation, regulation, or politics of
relevance to Colloidal Silver or *important* alternative health issues
may be posted *occasionally*, with follow-up to be
Mike wrote:
[Now, can we measure a change of 20 milligrams on a 4 long piece of
silver wire? Maybe.]
-Well I can't see any reason why it couldn't be done. As I said, weigh the
electrode before use, then weigh it again after use, one should get a fairly
good idea of how much silver has been
Feb 23, 2010 09:22:06 PM,
Our Muslim President does it again, shameful
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Subject: Fw: Flyover Denied For The First Time In 42 Years!!
--- On Sat, 2/20/10,
From: Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 6:21 PM
Hello Renee,
In order to activate sodium chlorite, the PH has to be lowered. Ascorbic acid
has a low PH and is capable of activating sodium chlorite. The trade off is
that ascorbic acid is also an antioxidant, so some of the chlorine dioxide is
used up in the process. You end up with a
SO if I have just one spot on my face for several years and that means
that I need a liver cleanse do I just get one from Sun Harvest?
Cathy
In a message dated 2/23/2010 11:04:46 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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Thanks Ode. I've thought about taking, not so much
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