Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-26 Thread fig227
Thanks very much Mike! Dan - Original Message - From: "M. G. Devour" To: Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 6:37 AM Subject: Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author > Dan wrote: > > > I would like to send in 3 numbered samples of colloidal gold made by > > >

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-26 Thread M. G. Devour
Dan wrote: > > I would like to send in 3 numbered samples of colloidal gold made by > > different Pride Labs methods. One might be colloidal silver instead of > > gold. > > If Mike Devour will agree I will send him information in advance of > > what my ppm measure was and method of generation for e

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-25 Thread Frank Key
Dan wrote: > My proposal: > > I would like to send in 3 numbered samples of colloidal gold made by > different Pride Labs methods. One might be colloidal silver instead of gold. > If Mike Devour will agree I will send him information in advance of what > my ppm measure was and method of generation

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-25 Thread fig227
a secure screw top. Also, what will you be measuring? PPM? The weight of colloidal metal per ounce? Nitrate ppm? All would be very interesting. Thanks Dan - Original Message - From: "Frank Key" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 1:10 PM Subject: Re: CS>Making

Re: CS>testing CG, was, Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-25 Thread Marshall Dudley
S Nowell wrote: > Since when did the group start requiring test to be > done on peoples cg or cs solutions??? Only when the report contradicts everything that has been tried before, contradicts theory, and contradicts published information in books and sicentific papers. It is the only way t

CS>testing CG, was, Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-25 Thread S Nowell
Paula, thats so very nice of you to wish that Dan send a sample of his CG which is clear at 50 ppm to Frank who sells the same products that is red, all of his colloidals are colored, what a most generous offer from Frank, I cant wait for the results myself. The cs I make is clear,Mesosilvers (aka

CS>testing CG, was, Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-25 Thread S Nowell
Since when did the group start requiring test to be done on peoples cg or cs solutions??? when these people are sharing what they have done to give the group some ideas. Now if these people were trying to sell something for profit I could understand. The theory that cg has to be red is only for

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2004-03-24 Thread sol
Frank, This is VERY nice of you. I hope Dan will send you a sample of what he is making with his Pride Labs CG generator. I look forward to the results. Thanks for your generous offer, paula Frank Key wrote: Dan wrote: You know one that will do it for a reasonable price? I don't know an

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-24 Thread Frank Key
Dan wrote: > You know one that will do it for a reasonable price? I don't know any. I'll > split it 50/50 with you. Frank Key's testing lab may have run a ppm test on > the product. I will offer to test the gold content no charge and share the results with the list. I just need a few ounces sent

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-24 Thread fig227
- Original Message - From: "sol" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:02 AM Subject: Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author > No, I mean you sending your product you make to an independent lab. To > trust Pride Labs as far as you do is beyond my powers. > I

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-23 Thread sol
ssage - From: "sol" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 10:39 AM Subject: Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author Dan, Have you had independent lab tests of your "colloidal gold"? paula Pride Labs has. You can e-mail them -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-23 Thread fig227
- Original Message - From: "sol" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 10:39 AM Subject: Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author > Dan, > Have you had independent lab tests of your "colloidal gold"? > paula Pride Labs has. You can e-mail them -- The Silv

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-23 Thread sol
Dan, Have you had independent lab tests of your "colloidal gold"? paula fig...@comcast.net wrote: If you are making colloidal gold, it will be a beatiful violet color. If you are not seeing violet, you are not making colloidal gold. What you are most likely seeing a a cloud of very

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-23 Thread fig227
- Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:53 AM Subject: Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author > > It is impossible for colloidal gold to be clear at anything over 1 ppm. ALL > sizes of colloidal gold that are stable absorb str

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-23 Thread Marshall Dudley
fig...@comcast.net wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Marshall Dudley" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:24 AM > Subject: Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author > > > If you are making colloidal gold, it will be a beatiful violet color. If &

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-22 Thread fig227
- Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author > If you are making colloidal gold, it will be a beatiful violet color. If > you are not seeing violet, you are not making colloidal

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-17 Thread William Meyer
On Mar 17, 2004, at 6:36 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: From what I've gathered on the subject from various searches: Silver will cross the blood brain barrier. [ Has been found in the brains of autopsied cadavers but not mentioned as a 'cause' of anything] Silver has an affinity for damaged bra

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-17 Thread Ode Coyote
Frank Key runs Colloidal Sciences Laboratory in NJ http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html http://www.silver-colloids.com/index.html Ode At 01:36 AM 3/16/2004 -0800, you wrote: >Ode, Who is Frank Key, I'm not familiar with him. I >would like to have the solution tested. Any help wo

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-17 Thread Ode Coyote
From what I've gathered on the subject from various searches: Silver will cross the blood brain barrier. [ Has been found in the brains of autopsied cadavers but not mentioned as a 'cause' of anything] Silver has an affinity for damaged brain and nerve cells [is used in a staining process to h

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
I still stand by my statements, that you cannot product CG via electrolysis, but that you can produce CG/CS. You are I believe producing CG/CS (you even say as much below), which I and others have proven to be rather easy to do years ago. However the big question is, is it actual colloid of an all

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-16 Thread S Nowell
Mashall, don’t sail that boat too far out into the ocean, you might fall off the end of the earth. Phinneas, My best guess for my cs-cg solution would be around 10ppm since it has both cs & cg in mostly ionic form. If I was able to get 14-gauge wire that is what I would use, Gold wire is very $$$.

RE: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-16 Thread Charlie Smith (Volt)
I just had to send one more link. http://www.meditationexpert.com/Articles/ColloidalGold.htm I promise to stop with the links now... charlie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post,

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
Phinneas wrote: > Hello Ode and forum, > Assuming that Colloidal Gold can be produced, > what ppm would be suggested as "ideal"? 3 to 5 ppm, > as per CS maybe? Would the ppm be guessed-estimated > using the same techniques as for CS? > > Would gold wire be best, or gold plates, > and what thickn

RE: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-16 Thread Charlie Smith (Volt)
sician for more information." End of Quote: charlie -Original Message- From: Phinneas [mailto:phinn...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 10:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote To: silve

RE: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-16 Thread Charlie Smith (Volt)
Yikes! Sorry all, It helps to include the link, I suppose... So, Again regarding the question "What would CG achieve, health-wise, as opposed to CS?" here's a link that might be interesting. http://www.colloidalgold.com/today.htm charlie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing

RE: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-16 Thread Charlie Smith (Volt)
Phinneas, Here's a link you might find interesting (with regard to your question "What would CG achieve, health-wise, as opposed to CS?"... charlie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
My experiments indicate that a gold silver alloy will form a colloid. I had some special wire made up to be 50% gold and 50% silver on an atom count. It made colloidal gols/silver quite easily. However I never used it because I became concerned with what the effect may be on the brain. It appear

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-16 Thread Phinneas
-Original Message- From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:09 PM Subject: Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author > ... > Actually, no one who has a vested interest in a process that 'can' be done >with existing equipment will h

RE: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-16 Thread Medwith, Robert
-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Smith (Volt) Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author Hi all, I've been lurking a while. This is my first attempt at a post, so please bear with me if I manage to screw something

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-16 Thread S Nowell
Ode, Who is Frank Key, I'm not familiar with him. I would like to have the solution tested. Any help would be appreciated. Tchau Sam I don't think anyone has run gold electrodes in a silver solution besides you..does sound interesting. Yes, I can do the process but don't really have the mean

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-15 Thread Charlie Smith (Volt)
Hi all, I've been lurking a while. This is my first attempt at a post, so please bear with me if I manage to screw something up. I promise to get it right sooner or later. Having said that, I've been following the thread on Colloidal Gold with interest. At first glance, it seems unlikely that Sa

RE: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-15 Thread James Holmes
How much an Oz.? TIA JOH -Original Message- From: S Nowell [mailto:oneland...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 3:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author Marshall, I remove the silver and put voltage to the gold.The gold I purchased is f

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-15 Thread S Nowell
Marshall, I remove the silver and put voltage to the gold.The gold I purchased is from Surepure Chemetals, states (Gold wire 99.99 pure)see surepure.com. Tchau Sam This is not clear. Once you add the gold wire, what is the hookup. It appears by the description that you are leaving the silve

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-15 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ode Coyote wrote: > I don't think anyone has run gold electrodes in a silver solution besides > you..does sound interesting. > I tried it in an HVAC setup. Got current, but no violet color. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsu

CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-15 Thread Matthew McCann PE
Hi, Marshall, Yes, a laser pointer and the use of Snell's law can give a calculation of refractive index. But the principle of the optical lever would allow more precision. Admittedly, not everybody has access to a theodolite or a transit. These instruments, used as part of an optical lever setup,

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-15 Thread Marshall Dudley
Refractive indexes are pretty easy to measure with a laser pointer, and a scale. If you shine the laser into the liquid at an angle, it will bend at the point of entry a specific amount depending on the refractive index. The index can be computed using Snell's law. http://www4.geology.utoronto.c

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-15 Thread Marshall Dudley
If you are making colloidal gold, it will be a beatiful violet color. If you are not seeing violet, you are not making colloidal gold. What you are most likely seeing a a cloud of very small bubbles from the electrolysis process which are dissolving into the water not far from the electrode.. Ma

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-15 Thread Marshall Dudley
This is not clear. Once you add the gold wire, what is the hookup. It appears by the description that you are leaving the silver connected to the 27 volts, and the gold is just hanging in the water not connected to anything, or do you put the voltage on the silver and the gold as well. Do you keep

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-15 Thread Ode Coyote
..sounds about right. Actually, no one who has a vested interest in a process that 'can' be done with existing equipment will have a problem with the success of it. It just opens up the market further. The problem is that unscrupulous [or just gullible] people sometimes claim that something ca

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-15 Thread Ode Coyote
I don't think anyone has run gold electrodes in a silver solution besides you..does sound interesting. Yes, I can do the process but don't really have the means to check what the actual results are. Might wind up with a gold/silver alloy? I imagine Frank Key could handle that part for a few

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-14 Thread Jim
Hi Sam: Your last paragraph reminded me of one of my favorite poems and one that should be memorized by the time a child reaches the third grade. The name of it is "I couldn't be done". You'll find it on the web. Oh heck, i'll find it for you. Sorry if I offend someone because it is off

CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-14 Thread Matthew McCann PE
I tried to generate LVDC titanium and got nothing but gas bubbles on the two Ti electrodes, until I added some CS/EIS. An initially weak Tyndall effect began to grow steadily, or so it seemed. (TE is subjective.) By the way, there may be an overlooked method of measuring colloid concentration or s

CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-14 Thread S Nowell
Trem I apologize for my remarks toward you. I don't know whats going on either. When I first heard about CG I just assumed it could be made using LVDC, I did not know that It couldn't be done. After days of my gold electrodes sitting in DW with no change at all I decided to seed the DW with CS and

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-14 Thread George
You have it backwards. YOU have to prove your assertions by independent testing. YOUR guesses and/or feelings mean nothing outside the sphere of your own microcosm. This may help: The Scientific Method 1. Observation and description of a phenomenon or group of phenomena. 2. Formulation of

CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-14 Thread Trem
he other way to break the bonds. Please offer some proof . A lab test would suffice. Trem - Original Message - From: "S Nowell" To: Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 2:25 AM Subject: [silver_list] Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author > Trem I beg to differ > This is how I m

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-14 Thread William Meyer
very nice description! i, and trem i am sure, are amazed by the experiments our inventors carry out! thanks On Mar 14, 2004, at 5:25 AM, S Nowell wrote: Trem I beg to differ This is how I make it. I use 250 mil distilled water in a glass beaker, add 2 Canadian silverleafs as my electrodes hangi

Re: CS>Making CG repy from Author

2004-03-14 Thread S Nowell
Trem I beg to differ This is how I make it. I use 250 mil distilled water in a glass beaker, add 2 Canadian silverleafs as my electrodes hanging high in the glass beaker right below water level, add 27 volt--3 9s batteries, wait 30 minutes. Right after this I insert my gold electrodes, 22 gauge 99.