RE: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-07 Thread Phil Morrison
CS NPs are far superior at killing pathogens than ionic silver. And gaslighters flogging EIS on this Forum should take their business elsewhere.

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-08 Thread Jean Baugh
Hi, So you are saying CS is good but you think nanoparticles are better? Is it much more difficult to make CS NP? Thank you, Jean On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 11:53 PM Phil Morrison wrote: > > CS NPs are far superior at killing pathogens than ionic silver. > > And gaslighters flogging EIS on this

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-09 Thread Ode Coyote
I'm saying IONS are what kill the pathogens and they are easy to make. "Particles" are not easy to make and have to release ions in order to work ...skip that step...ya think? On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 12:44 PM Jean Baugh wrote: > Hi, > > So you are saying CS is good but you think nanoparticles are

RE: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-09 Thread Phil Morrison
Reactive oxygen is what kills pathogens. And only the silver nanoparticles in CS can provide reactive oxygen. Ions are a waste of time.

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-09 Thread Max
silver ions are toxic to microbes and animal cells and immune cells.  If you are trying to kill microbes, the trick is to reduce silver toxicity to animal cells while maintaining or increasing the toxicity to microbial cells. Once silver gets through the gut epithelium, likely broken down as i

RE: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-09 Thread Phil Morrison
Yo, Max! I thought you were going to bag it, and take your misinformation to another forum. Your latest posting was pure wishful thinking. The science content read like it was written by AI on a vaccinated computer. Nothing made sense. First off, Ions do not cross the gut lining. Only CS can

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-10 Thread André Juthe
Wrong, several studies show that silver ions are effective against pathogens. Just search for "silver ions + bacteria or pathogens or virus" at pubmed and you all can see that there are many, many studies that show that it works and is even better than silver particles. The fact that ions rip apar

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-10 Thread Ode Coyote
Experience says that ions work just fine, gut or no gut. On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 10:59 PM Phil Morrison wrote: > Yo, Max! > > I thought you were going to bag it, and take your misinformation to > another forum. > > Your latest posting was pure wishful thinking. The science content read > like it

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-10 Thread André Juthe
No, you should take your pseudo-science-particles-buddies with you and leave. Massive research shows that silver ions kills bacteria (here is some comment on research that ions disrupt the DNA of bacteria: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200409140021.htm Secondly, silver ions can be

RE: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-10 Thread Phil Morrison
Ahoy Ion Floggers, Andre, Max, Ode, and sundry others, CS is far superior at killing pathogens than ions. I posted an article earlier on this Forum detailing the advantages of CS colloidal silver over ionic silver. (see below). The reasons why CS can cross the gut lining, and ions cannot cross

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-10 Thread Theresa Swift
So how do we make CS instead of Ionic S in our generators? On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 10:51 AM Phil Morrison wrote: > > Ahoy Ion Floggers, Andre, Max, Ode, and sundry others, > > CS is far superior at killing pathogens than ions. > > I posted an article earlier on this Forum detailing the advantage

RE: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-10 Thread abeland1
Well Theresa, that's the whole point. You have to throw away your generators and buy MESOsilver from them. From: Theresa Swift Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 11:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS> Gaslighters So how do we make CS instead of Ionic

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-10 Thread Max
The literature suggests that ionic silver may become nanoparticulate in the digestive system and in the blood, while nanoparticles lose silver ions as well.  One study says the vast majority of orally ingested silver nanoparticles are ionized in the stomach and reformed as complexes with protei

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread Ode Coyote
The difference between silver ions and silver particles boils down to the fact that *silver ions* combine with chloride ions to form silver chloride and *silver particles* do not. That's why you neutralize stomach acid for max effect...ions take a bit of TIME to form Silver Chloride in the blood

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread Theresa Swift
So what’s the best way to neutralize the stomach acid? On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 8:05 AM Ode Coyote wrote: > The difference between silver ions and silver particles boils down to the > fact that *silver ions* combine with chloride ions to form silver > chloride and *silver particles* do not. > > T

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread André Juthe
Use a teaspoon of bicarbonate Den lör 11 sep. 2021 kl 14:57 skrev Theresa Swift : > So what’s the best way to neutralize the stomach acid? > > On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 8:05 AM Ode Coyote > wrote: > >> The difference between silver ions and silver particles boils down to the >> fact that *silver i

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread André Juthe
Phil Morristond claims: "CS is far superior at killing pathogens than ions." Ok, could you provide some references to peer-review studies for that claim? I have read several studies that show the exact OPPOSITE. See for instance: https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlehtml/2012/ra/c2ra20684f https

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread Ode Coyote
1/4- 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2 cup of water on empty stomach...wait 10-15 minutes, then guzzle silver water. https://silverpuppy.com/article/baking-soda-makes-cs-far-more-effective-tactic-that-worked-for-me On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 8:57 AM Theresa Swift wrote: > So what’s the best way t

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread Ode Coyote
The AgPNs still have to release ions in order to kill anything. It has been reported on this list that putting salt in 'EIS' [aka Ionic Silver Water...after it is made] will develop a blueish haze indicating the formation of Silver Chloride After doing that several times and NOT seeing that reacti

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread Ode Coyote
"The reasons why CS can cross the gut lining, and ions cannot cross the gut lining" The statement is false. Why? Because they are no longer IONs once they INSTANTLY react with the HCL in the stomach. "Ions" absorb just fine, even through the skin. [Takes a while, but they do... ELIMINATING seriou

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread André Juthe
Ok, Phil, so you post a website (without any scientific references) whereas I posted several peer-reviewed research studies. Please notice the difference. Again: just making a claim does not make it so. Den fre 10 sep. 2021 kl 16:51 skrev Phil Morrison : > > Ahoy Ion Floggers, Andre, Max, Ode, an

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread Theresa Swift
Thanks. On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 8:58 AM André Juthe wrote: > Use a teaspoon of bicarbonate > > Den lör 11 sep. 2021 kl 14:57 skrev Theresa Swift >: > >> So what’s the best way to neutralize the stomach acid? >> >> On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 8:05 AM Ode Coyote >> wrote: >> >>> The difference betwe

RE: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread Phil Morrison
When are you "ion floggers" going to get it through your thick souls that it's oxygen, reactive oxygen, that kills most pathogens and not ions. This reactive oxygen is provided only by the silver nanoparticles in CS.

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread André Juthe
Claims without evidence should be discarded. The only ones with thick souls are the ones' that, despite being refuted by peer-reviewed studies, still keep repeating unsubstantiated claims. Provide evidence or shut up! Den lör 11 sep. 2021 kl 19:32 skrev Phil Morrison : > > When are you "ion flogg

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread Max
what causes ROS?   a biological reaction, mainly, as I see it. Any simple view is not going to be comprehensive.   How many biological reactions are involved in the silver experience?  All kinds of changes are going on, not only to the silver product as it is ingested, but then in the blood an

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread André Juthe
Well said, Max. Den lör 11 sep. 2021 kl 20:04 skrev Max : > what causes ROS? a biological reaction, mainly, as I see it. > > Any simple view is not going to be comprehensive. How many biological > reactions are involved in the silver experience? All kinds of changes are > going on, not only

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread Tony Moody
On 2021/09/11 19:31, Phil Morrison wrote: When are you "ion floggers" going to get it through your thick souls that it's oxygen, reactive oxygen, that kills most pathogens and not ions. This reactive oxygen is provided only by the silver nanoparticles in CS. Hallo Phil, I am confused by

RE: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread Phil Morrison
Tony, Normal cells get their energy from oxygen, and so handle oxygen very well. Abnormal cells get their energy from fermentation and other sources -- but not oxygen. So, abnormal cells can't deal with oxygen and die when exposed to reactive oxygen. Only silver nanoparticles can make reactive

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-11 Thread Tony Moody
Phil, Yes, thanks for the clarity. Exactly my point is that normal yeast ( bread or beer or wine yeast) will eventually die without oxygen. Normal yeast will propogate and grow with the correct amount of air, (oxygen). Not the other way round. Abnormal cells? Abnormally shaped or sized? Muta

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-12 Thread Max
scroll down to antibacterial mode of action of silver for a quick overview of  mechanisms of action https://bit.ly/3z7VbJz On 9/11/2021 11:26 AM, Tony Moody wrote: Phil, Yes, thanks for the clarity. Exactly my point is that normal yeast ( bread or beer or wine yeast) will eventually die wit

Re: CS> Gaslighters

2021-09-12 Thread Tony Moody
Yes Max, Thanks. I had watched that earlier this afternoon and there were no brain benders or weird surprises. :-) OK, Tony On 2021/09/12 19:06, Max wrote: scroll down to antibacterial mode of action of silver for a quick overview of  mechanisms of action https://bit.ly/3z7VbJz On 9/11/2