Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Stiles Watson
think that > any 'new' solution must address this problem and, as Tony has said, give > members the option to use either. > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: Tran, Ly V. [mailto:lt...@rrtgi.com] > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 3:48 PM > To: Sti

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Paul Herron
Message- From: Tran, Ly V. [mailto:lt...@rrtgi.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 3:48 PM To: Stiles Watson; sipx-users Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum I agree with Stiles. When I first started with SipX, I was too looking for help on the forum, but never got any responses. I tho

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Matt White
>>> Stiles Watson 08/13/10 3:35 PM >>> >>>I have no idea if the forum posts to the list, but I'm guessing it does not. The very top "sticky" in the forum which says "PLEASE READ" describes that if you want your forum post to be send to the mailing list, you need to be signed up with the mailin

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Flatfender
One thought I have -- from the mailing list perspective -- is whether more digest options are available (to package all the messages daily, for example)? Also, is it possible to group all the messages in a digest by topic so that the conversation on that topic can be read linearly? The way mail

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Tony Graziano
2010 Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum I agree with Stiles. When I first started with SipX, I was too looking for help on the forum, but never got any responses. I thought the project might be dead, until I too came to the conclusion that support mainly came from the list. So I signed

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread m...@grounded.net
> I'm not opposed to the forum, I just don't want the mailing list to go > away. Paul, don't get me wrong, I totally agree with you on this point. I dislike how much email I get from the mailing list and how difficult it is for ME to maintain notes on issues gone past but there is a better conne

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Tran, Ly V.
users Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum A newbe's perspective. I'm new to SipX and to the mailing list (just signed up actually). I normally do not signup for mailing lists - I get enough email as is. I do however, have a problem that I need to solve. I first wen

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Stiles Watson
A newbe's perspective. I'm new to SipX and to the mailing list (just signed up actually). I normally do not signup for mailing lists - I get enough email as is. I do however, have a problem that I need to solve. I first went to the forum, submitted my question and got no response. So I tinker

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Paul Herron
I'm not opposed to the forum, I just don't want the mailing list to go away. Paul -Original Message- From: m...@grounded.net [mailto:m...@grounded.net] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 2:39 PM To: sipx-users Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum >On 8/13/2010 1:18

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Matt White
I think thats because with a mailing list you have to see all the activity. With a forum, people tend to hunt and peck for what they want without having to read through post that don't relate to them. -M >>> "m...@grounded.net" 08/13/10 2:48 PM >>> BTW, there is one very important aspect abou

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread m...@grounded.net
BTW, there is one very important aspect about a mailing list that isn't such a given in forums. There is a connection between members which seems to happen now and then which I don't see as often in forums. Maybe that's part of what the old school feeling is with lists. Anyhow, I'm outta here

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread m...@grounded.net
> I don't see how if your searching a Forum locally  or searching the > just the specific site that contained mailing list or forum from > google where you are not going to get fairly close results.  You're > still searching the same exact content.  Most of the time within > forums you have to turn

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Philippe Laurent
++1 This list has been an exceptional tool for better understanding the platform. I too agree that the 'buzz' of the list has its ways of making the project feel alive. Philippe On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Flatfender wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Paul Herron > wrote: > > Whil

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Tony Graziano
I think martins goal is ideal. Same information and you choose which way to participate. Maybe someone can ding him and see if he needs help with that? On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Flatfender wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Paul Herron > wrote: > > While I agree with everything Jo

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread m...@grounded.net
>�On 8/13/2010 1:18 PM, Paul Herron wrote: >� �Scalix message content � � >�While I agree with everything Josh has written below, I’m loathe to let >�go of the mailing list. I fear/suspect that shifting to a “forum only” >�will lead to a decline in participation and or attrition. Seems the reason

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Flatfender
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Paul Herron wrote: > While I agree with everything Josh has written below, I’m loathe to let go > of the mailing list. I fear/suspect that shifting to a “forum only” will > lead to a decline in participation and or attrition. > In my particular case, IT is just one

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread m...@grounded.net
> Or just searching: dns site:sipfoundry.org  to get mailing list, wiki, jira > etc? Talk about adding complexity for most people though :) ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet)
an with a forum. Just my $.02 Paul From: Josh M. Patten [mailto:jpat...@co.brazos.tx.us] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 12:46 PM To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum I think it’s time this was revisited. Now that sipX as a whole has gained traction and sta

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Flatfender
> > Out of curiosity how is entering the following into google not > searchable enough? > > dns site:http:/list.sipfoundry.net/archive/sipx-users > > > To get posts with dns entries in it?  Again I'm not saying forums > don't offer additional features... :) > Or just searching: dns site:sipfoundr

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread m...@grounded.net
> Out of curiosity how is entering the following into google not > searchable enough? Because it's google, which indexes everything so your results are everything. Much more useful to have powerful search tools in a good forum choice and bring up local results only. _

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Flatfender
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:59 PM, m...@grounded.net wrote: > Right now, I'm confused as to what's been going on with sipx or it's various > flavors and sites and wiki's. I've not been very active because things are > running well at the moment but I do stay on the list and look at everything > t

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Paul Herron
...@co.brazos.tx.us] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 12:46 PM To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum I think it’s time this was revisited. Now that sipX as a whole has gained traction and started attracting users the mailing lists have started to, in my opinion, get

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Josh M. Patten
sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Flatfender Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 12:58 PM To: sipx-users Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Douglas Hubler wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Matth

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread m...@grounded.net
Right now, I'm confused as to what's been going on with sipx or it's various flavors and sites and wiki's. I've not been very active because things are running well at the moment but I do stay on the list and look at everything that flows. I wish however that there was ONE main forum somewhere w

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Flatfender
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Douglas Hubler wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet) > wrote: >> This one works well >> http://community.zenoss.org/community/forums >> I'm trying to poke around and see if it shows what they are using. No luck >> so far. > > Ma

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Tony Graziano
I recall there was an openid plugin that needed some work. The goal was to have a user pick forum or email or both, two way updates in either direction. Once I needed to find a nugget on information and sipfoundry was down... I did a simple search in my email (google apps) and found it, since I g

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Douglas Hubler
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet) wrote: > This one works well > http://community.zenoss.org/community/forums > I'm trying to poke around and see if it shows what they are using. No luck > so far. Martin has plans for replacing www.sipfoundry.org currently using joo

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Flatfender
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Matthew Kitchin (Public) wrote: > I don't mind a forum as well, but I don't want to lose the ability to > interact by mailing list too. There are plenty of lists I interact with that > let email and forum integrate perfectly. I personally prefer email. I spend

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet)
ally prefer email. I spend as much time on a blackberry as I do on a computer. -Original Message- From: "Josh M. Patten" Sender: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:45:57 To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Matt White
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:45:57 To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ __

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Douglas Hubler
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Matthew Kitchin (Public) wrote: > I don't mind a forum as well, but I don't want to lose the ability to > interact by mailing list too. There are plenty of lists I interact with that > let email and forum integrate perfectly. I personally prefer email. I spend

Re: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Matthew Kitchin (Public)
--Original Message- From: "Josh M. Patten" Sender: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:45:57 To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org Subject: [sipx-users] Mailing list or forum ___ sipx-users mailing list sipx-users@list

[sipx-users] Mailing list or forum

2010-08-13 Thread Josh M. Patten
I think it's time this was revisited. Now that sipX as a whole has gained traction and started attracting users the mailing lists have started to, in my opinion, get out of hand. I open my mail client this morning and was greeted by 60 new sipx-users mailing list messages. That's right 60. I c