Re: [SLUG] DSL / Linux Friendly ISPs?

2001-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="David Guest" And you can still get all the benefits of a fixed IP by adding a dynamic DNS service to the cheaper dynamic IP address. Perhaps. Saying you can get "all" the benefits is a bit of a white lie though. Even given what you can achieve, I certainly wouldn't entrust

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread David Kempe
Look, I've seen this before. If you want to be employable, than you need to have the skills. Not knowing basics documentation stuff like Word is surefire way to get passed up. Anyhow theres my advice. ROFL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread James Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Paul Cameron said: As well, I've had nothing but trouble with PDF's using acroread on Linux as well as ghostview (which often pukes up PDF's) Well maybe u shouldn't use the linux version as its crap! Use windows it was written for it! honestly i dont

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
Oooh! A SLUG troll. It's been so long, so perhaps I'll bite. quote who="Paul Cameron" Well maybe u shouldn't use the linux version as its crap! Use windows it was written for it! Acrobat Reader for Windows was definitely written for Windows. Acrobat Reader for Unix wasn't. honestly i dont

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 12:47:13AM +1100, James Wilkinson uttered: This one time, at band camp, Paul Cameron said: Using Word for documenting is hardly a 'skill', and any professional documentor will be using tools like DocBook, or TeX, and generating their documentation in something

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Terry Collins
enterfornone wrote: ...snip Troll child :-( I think some of you zealots need to get out of this dreamworld. Linux is not yet a significant player on the desktop. Most people do need Work skills to be employable. Work != Word skills. Besides, countering every anti-linux

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Greg
This is a Linux list, isn't it?. Linux _is_ a "significant player on my desktop" as I choose not to use windows or any of the proprietary crap it produces. And I'm annoyed at people trying to force me to use M$ bloat, something I thought I wouldn't see on this list. enterfornone wrote:

RE: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Marty Richards
Well maybe u shouldn't use the linux version as its crap! Use windows it was written for it! honestly i dont understand if u want documentation that is not man crap than use .doc!!! I am honestly sick of the linux lamers at work, they want to use their own crazt abiword or man crap. It

[SLUG] Old LIbraries

2001-03-07 Thread Dean Hamstead
I dont suppose anyone has a nice quick way of detecting and removing old library versions? some fancy regex's or something? Dean -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread enterfornone
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 07:51:53AM +1000, Greg wrote: This is a Linux list, isn't it?. Linux _is_ a "significant player on my desktop" as I choose not to use windows or any of the proprietary crap it produces. And I'm annoyed at people trying to force me to use M$ bloat, something I

[SLUG] WIRED_ Using only seven lines of Perl code...Descrambling DVDs just goteven easier...

2001-03-07 Thread Terry Collins
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,42259,00.html?tw=wn20010307 Their "qrpff" program is a more compact cousin of the DeCSS utility that eight movie studios successfully sued to remove from the website of 2600 Magazine. But unlike DeCSS, qrpff is abbreviated enough for critics of the

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Matthew Dalton
Paul Cameron wrote: I am honestly sick of the linux lamers at work, they want to use their own crazt abiword or man crap. It cant generate proper .doc files, so where is the point? I tried to make for them for application documentate software, but i can't appease those freakes. A portion of

Re: [SLUG] QMAIL SUPPORT

2001-03-07 Thread Terry Collins
david kwok wrote: Could anyone point me to any commerical support for Qmail? I have this error messages from my qmail server, "cname_lookup_failed_temporarily". The mail sent to remote location is therefore not working. The remote locations are aol and the like which use non-compliant

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Martin
Each has it's place, nothing wrong with choosing the best tool for the job. exactly, which is why people bite when someone wades in with "MS rulez" and "you must use Word"... if the guy had mounted a well reasoned arguement i don't think people would have been shouting "troll" later marty

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread enterfornone
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:32:32AM +1100, Martin wrote: Each has it's place, nothing wrong with choosing the best tool for the job. exactly, which is why people bite when someone wades in with "MS rulez" and "you must use Word"... if the guy had mounted a well reasoned arguement i

[SLUG] DOS end of lines w/- tomsrtbt

2001-03-07 Thread Geoffrey Robertson
I have a need to convert text files created with tomsrtbt to DOS end of line format... using only tomsrtbt tools. There is no unix2dos, Perl or tr available. Unfortunately the usual sed s/$/x0d/ text.unix text.dos adds only literal x0d's to the line endings with tomsrtbt's sed. :( Also, the

[SLUG] why so many nmbd processes?

2001-03-07 Thread Dave Fitch
why does a ps on my machine show these 2 nmbd process that have been running since 1 March? root 1776 0.0 0.9 2240 1236 ?SMar01 0:01 nmbd -a root 1777 0.0 0.7 2160 944 ?SMar01 0:00 nmbd -a nmbd and smbd are run from inetd, not as standalone

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Greg
The operative word here being "choose", a few years ago I tried Linux, using it for a year or so as server/gateway/router environment. After having tried windoze at these tasks, Linux's superb performance prompted me to use it as my desktop environment, which has been improving at an

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:02:47AM +1100, enterfornone wrote: Even if there was a Linux WP that was better than Word, the fact still remains that if your job involves using a word processor, chances are you will need to know Word. But there's nothing to know. If your employer plops you down

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Michael Covi
but it's a microsoft product! Surely it's so easy to use you don't need any prior experience! ;)) On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, enterfornone wrote: Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 10:02:47 +1100 From: enterfornone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface

Re: [SLUG] DOS end of lines w/- tomsrtbt

2001-03-07 Thread Ken Yap
|Unfortunately the usual sed s/$/x0d/ text.unix text.dos |adds only literal x0d's to the line endings with tomsrtbt's sed. :( | |Also, the thing with the C-V C-^ RET produces a nice looking ^M's but |tomsrtbt barf's on them. bash$ echo foo | sed 's/$/^M/' | od -bc 000 146 157 157 015 012

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Martin
Even if there was a Linux WP that was better than Word, the fact still remains that if your job involves using a word processor, chances are you will need to know Word. but you just said yourself that what you should use is "the right tool for the job"... don't you think it is a little short

RE: [SLUG] why so many nmbd processes?

2001-03-07 Thread Jill Rowling
And smbstatus says?? Also look out for local WINS and DNS 'doze boxen that tend to hand around forever. If you have configured your SAMBA as an NT server (not workstation) you will also get pestered by 'doze boxen. netstat -a should show their real connections, if they exist. If they don't exist,

Re: [SLUG] why so many nmbd processes?

2001-03-07 Thread Michael Covi
I believe inetd only responds to connections not broadcasts. nmbd needs to deal with broadcasts so hence the need for the daemon to stay active? It sounds good but maybe someone with more experience might be able to confirm this? On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Dave Fitch wrote: Michael Covi [EMAIL

[SLUG] Open Electronic Goverment update

2001-03-07 Thread Ron Skeoch
Dear Sluggers, Having reviewed the correspondence exchanges over the last couple days I feel there is a need to get focus back This exercise is not about what is best but ensuring that individuals can use what they believe is best without imposition from Government THIS IS ABOUT

RE: [SLUG] QMAIL SUPPORT

2001-03-07 Thread simon . elder
Hi .. This is documented in the qmail FAQ. Find out about it here http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/outgoing.html#cname-lookup -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 8 March 2001 9:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [SLUG] DOS end of lines w/- tomsrtbt

2001-03-07 Thread Geoffrey Robertson
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 11:21:37AM +1100, Ken Yap wrote: |Lovely on bash ; barfs on tomsrtbt ash? bash$ ash $ echo foo | sed 's/$/^M/' | od -bc 000 146 157 157 015 012 f o o \r \n 005 Maybe the tty driver you have in tomsbtrt doesn't have all the quoting

RE: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Jill Rowling
Indeed, most of the calls I get from users stems from their lack of training with 'doze. They use M$ all day on their desktops but do not understand how to do more than the average daily task. It is a complete fallacy to assume that users will find Linux or M$ more or less difficult to use than

[SLUG] Car Pool to Installfest?

2001-03-07 Thread Martin
hi guys anyone going to the installfest from the inner west (i am at north strathfield) and want to car pool? later marty -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread michaelf
I use Linux as a gateway/router. I tend to use 2000pro as a desktop. Each has it's place, nothing wrong with choosing the best tool for the job. Can't agree more... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] QMAIL SUPPORT

2001-03-07 Thread michaelf
Tried patch; http://www.ckdhr.com/ckd/qmail-103.patch Cheers, Michael I have this error messages from my qmail server, "cname_lookup_failed_temporarily". The mail sent to remote location is therefore not working. The remote locations are aol and the like which use non-compliant DNS

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Matthew Dalton" In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:44:37PM +1100 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I'm speechless! I am without speech! What, you think Paul == Rick? The 'from' line is continued on from the In-Reply-To, as Paul was

[SLUG] Xfree User Problems

2001-03-07 Thread Scott Ragen
I try to login as a normal user into xfree, by typing either startx or X and I get an error message of: Authentication failed - cannot start X server. Perhaps you do not have console ownership? Only root can start XFree. How do I assign Console Ownership/permissions to other users? Oh I run Red

[SLUG] What does Debian (Storm Linux) use for an XConfigurator/XF86Setup?

2001-03-07 Thread Terry Collins
-- Terry Collins {:-)}}} Ph(02) 4627 2186 Fax(02) 4628 7861 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.woa.com.au WOA Computer Services lan/wan, linux/unix, novell $_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$b=73;$c=142;$t=255;@t=map{$_%16or$t^=$c^=(

Re: [SLUG] Xfree User Problems

2001-03-07 Thread Michael Covi
Define a sudo for startx ? On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Scott Ragen wrote: Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:42:04 +1100 From: Scott Ragen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Xfree User Problems I try to login as a normal user into xfree, by typing either startx or X and I get an

[SLUG] Compatibility ad nauseum

2001-03-07 Thread David
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Andrew Reilly wrote: On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:02:47AM +1100, enterfornone wrote: Even if there was a Linux WP that was better than Word, the fact still remains that if your job involves using a word processor, chances are you will need to know Word. snip Word

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Rick Welykochy
Andrew Reilly wrote: (Hell, strings|par|less usually does a fine job!) 'par' not found. -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Matthew Dalton
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Matthew Dalton" In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:44:37PM +1100 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I'm speechless! I am without speech! What, you think Paul == Rick? No, dude! I was speechless about the

Re: [SLUG] What does Debian (Storm Linux) use for an XConfigurator/XF86Setup?

2001-03-07 Thread Matthew Dalton
Terry Collins wrote: $_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$b=73;$c=142;$t=255;@t=map{$_%16or$t^=$c^=( $m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])110;$t^=(72,@z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%16 -2?0:$m17)),$b^=$_%64?12:0,@z)[$_%8]}(16..271);if((@a=unx"C*",$_)[20]48){$h

Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.

2001-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Matthew Dalton" No, dude! I was speechless about the whole thing. I know what the 'In-Reply-To' line means. Sorry, had to ask. :) I've been tipped off by an anonymous source that Paul - today's list entertainment value - was in fact recovering from trying to get the docbook tools

Re: [SLUG] why so many nmbd processes?

2001-03-07 Thread Dave Fitch
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 11:07:00AM +1100, Jill Rowling wrote: And smbstatus says?? Samba version 2.0.7 Service uid gid pid machine -- No locked files Share mode memory usage (bytes): 1048464(99%) free + 56(0%) used + 56(0%)

Re: [SLUG] why so many nmbd processes?

2001-03-07 Thread Michael Covi
As soon as theres any traffic on that port they will fire up and stay there straight away. It's nothing to worry about it's normal behaviour. On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Dave Fitch wrote: Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:41:39 +1100 From: Dave Fitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

[SLUG] Demand Dialing

2001-03-07 Thread Michael Sztachanski
Guys, how do get ppp to "Dail ON DEMAND"? i.e when someone activates their browser. cheers M -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Demand Dialing

2001-03-07 Thread Terry Collins
Michael Sztachanski wrote: Guys, how do get ppp to "Dail ON DEMAND"? i.e when someone activates their browser. Well, a few months ago, you would use diald, which could respond to demand or times. I don't know what the latestst is. -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} Ph(02) 4627 2186 Fax(02)

[SLUG] ISDN / DSL

2001-03-07 Thread Mike Holland
On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: ISDN Installation: $BigBread Hardware: $DoleOutTheDosh Not if you use onramp home highway. Similar cost to two POTS lines. Call costs: $PrettyPenny Unless you use data-over-voice for untimed local calls. Speed: Shite For

[SLUG] seeking Xconfig file for Compaq Laptop

2001-03-07 Thread Hall Murray
Hello there, Joined this group yesterday in the hope that someone can assist me in getting XFree86 going on my Laptop. From the little I have learnt over the past week since buying a copy of Redhat 7.0 from a news agent, I have gathered that I need a config file for XFree86 4.0.1-1 for my

[SLUG] Staroffice and 2.4.2 kernel

2001-03-07 Thread Jean-Yves Provost
Hi all, I have an interresting problem where by, When I'me running my newly compiled 2.4.2 (no patch) kernel, I'm unable to open a specific word document with StarOffice 5.2. Only problem is that it hangs my machine pretty bad. on the 2.2.17 kernel I get en error in staroffice but my machine

[SLUG] Re: Demand Dialing

2001-03-07 Thread Michael Sztachanski
It's ok guys, used the standard ppp stuff with a little adjustment. Works great!!! regards M At 06:57 PM 08-03-01 +1100, John Morrissey wrote: Dial on Demand - easy Go to the link below, dowload the iso, burn cd, install and it works (based on RH ofcourse) Cheers John [EMAIL PROTECTED]